Finnair and Flybe to part ways
Nov 14, 2014, 2:21 am
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I didn't understand why they insisted on operating as an independent airline with no alliance benefits rather than as an integrated express operator like American Eagle. For me, they were as unattractive as any other non-allied airline, and I didn't fly with them once.
Flybe Finland is an official oneWorld affiliate with full OW benefits for all routes operated on behalf of Finnair.
Or are you talking about Flybe UK?
Nov 14, 2014, 12:58 pm
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You know what? The fine print on aa.com says:
"Note: Flights marketed by Finnair and operated by FlyBe Nordic are eligible for mileage accrual."
and I, it being fine print, had mentally filled in a NOT in that text.
Oh well. I'm sure it wasn't the lack of business from me that brought the JV down.
"Note: Flights marketed by Finnair and operated by FlyBe Nordic are eligible for mileage accrual."
and I, it being fine print, had mentally filled in a NOT in that text.
Oh well. I'm sure it wasn't the lack of business from me that brought the JV down.
Nov 15, 2014, 6:07 am
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Isn't BT mostly, if not only, sharing codes to/from RIX - in the most restrictive and traditional fashion. I don't really see how that would help AY who's looking for a feeder airline at HEL.
Nov 15, 2014, 7:58 am
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That's true, but they also operate routes at least rom Vilnius. In the past they had big dreams of buying Finncomm although against Finnair. It is a well-run company they many shared destinations with AY so the infrastructure is there At the airports. They might well be interested on creating a second hub in Helsinki in co-operation with AY. This is pure speculation.
Nov 15, 2014, 11:49 am
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None as far as we know now. Flybe Nordic/Finland is operating as before. It is just that the owners couldn't agree on the road ahead, and decided new partners were needed.
Nov 17, 2014, 8:18 am
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OV would certainly be an interesting alternative. They are also already flying E170s (AY-owned, aren't they?). Looking at the current OV route map, there aren't many destinations left so they might need a boost.
But OV is 90 % state owned. I don't think the Estonian government would like to see their national airline as a mere feeder of the Finnish big brother.
On the other hand, a AY-OV partnership should and would open up interesting opportunities for both airlines. Thin routes could be operated HEL-TLL-XXX, for instance.
But OV is 90 % state owned. I don't think the Estonian government would like to see their national airline as a mere feeder of the Finnish big brother.
On the other hand, a AY-OV partnership should and would open up interesting opportunities for both airlines. Thin routes could be operated HEL-TLL-XXX, for instance.
Nov 17, 2014, 8:48 am
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AY is actually already codesharing with one Braathens company, namely TF. Now, they only operate Avros (RJ85 and RJ100). It is a healthy airline but I have no idea if they could be a partner in this. But if Sweden closes BMA as threatened, their hub is gone and they might be looking for new adventures.
Nov 17, 2014, 10:28 am
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OV is going to be privatized soon by Tallink ship-company guys. They supposedly got big plans to add more destinations to network, so they are probably not planning to be feeders...unless this business is able to make money, which seems highly doubtful.
Nov 17, 2014, 11:08 pm
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I found some gems in the Blomberg article cited here: http://www.flyertalk.com/story/finna...perations.html
It seems BE was happy operating the Embraer flights for AY under wetlease but couldn't make the domestic BE operated/coded flights work and lost 10+ million on it in the past year. They wanted AY to extend the same wetlease deal for the domestic ATR ops, but AY wouldn't budge, so they parted ways.
It seems BE was happy operating the Embraer flights for AY under wetlease but couldn't make the domestic BE operated/coded flights work and lost 10+ million on it in the past year. They wanted AY to extend the same wetlease deal for the domestic ATR ops, but AY wouldn't budge, so they parted ways.