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Old Mar 12, 2015, 3:34 pm
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Background
From time to time, AY will make the Y traveller an offer to upgrade. This thread lists when, how and and how much the upgrade is.

Selection process is unknown, but it is likely that neither fare class on original ticket nor tier status of traveller is a selection criteria, at least not to travellers advantage. From the reports made so far, both travellers with and without FF# in the reservation have gotten offers.

Offers are likely made only when Y is oversold or nearly full. Some travellers have reported declining offer and being upgraded for free later ("op-up").

Offers are fixed price offers, either in € or in AY+points. The latter kind is only valid for members of AY+, while €-offers are directed to all kind of travellers.

Offers are made either in mail or via text message and recipient has 72 hours to repspond. Some reports says this time is now shortened to 48 hours. Text message offers typically arrive close to departure and may not state a last time to reply.

Offers in text message can be replied to and upgrade is instantly processed. Offers in mail has occasionally not cleared (said to be "sold out" when accepting offer too late).

If offer is accepted and upgrade clears, new ticket is issued in F, so a confirmed upgrade with all perks of business class included. Mileage earning is according to original fare class however.


Development
In august 2015 AY announced a trial to let travellers bid for upgrades, initially on AY89 and AY90. It is likely that bidding will affect the number of fixed price offers.

The trial has been made permanent, and the bidding for upgrade has been extended to more longhaul routes.
The program has also led to a consolidation of upgrade options to one webpage
https://www.finnair.com/int/gb/upgrade-options
where you can upgrade by bidding, by using AY+ points or by accepting last minute cash offers. The latter ("Last minute" offers) are the same as have been discussed in this thread.. Finnair still pushes those offers via e-mail and text-message, but now also shows them on this webpage.




Offers made
Here is a condensed list of offers made, processed including post #213.
Figures are in € unless otherwise stated. Each destination's offers are recorded in a single line in time order.

Longhaul
SIN-HEL 248, 348, 348
HEL-SIN 499, 499, 348, 349€

JFK-HEL 48k points, 348€, 348€, 499

HKG-HEL 248
HEL-HKG 348

BKK-HEL 298, 348, 348
HEL-BKK 48k points, 348€, 348€ (290€ on phone? Not yet confirmed)
HEL-HKT 348

NRT-HEL 498
HEL-KIX 348, 375 (12/19, 01/20)
KIX-HEL 391 (12/19, 01/20)

ICN-HEL 248, 318

HEL-PVG 298
PVG-HEL 448, 498

CKG-HEL 228
XIY-HEL 248

HEL-DEL 198
HEL-DEL 300 (4/19)

YYZ-HEL 225€, 225


Shorthaul
DXB-HEL 99

HEL-VNO 7k points

HEL-BUD 69€
BUD-HEL 69, 8k points, 69

HEL-PRG 69€
PRG-HEL ≈70€

CPH-HEL 7k points, 7k, 69€, 7k, 69€
HEL-CPH 69€, 69, 69

HEL-ARN 7,5k points, 41€

HEL-GOT 7k points
GOT-HEL 7k points

HEL-VIE 69€

HEL-CDG 69€, 69€, 69
CDG-HEL 89€

HEL-MXP 69

HEL-TXL 9k points, 9k
HEL-DUS 69

HEL-HAM 69,69
HAM-HEL 69

HEL-FRA 69€
FRA-HEL 69€, 89, 89€

BRU-HEL 69

GVA-HEL 69
HEL-GVA 69, 89

HEL-LHR 9k points
HEL-LHR 109€

HEL-MAD 89€, 9k points

HEL-SVO 69€

HEL-WAW 79€
WAW-HEL 79€

DUS-HEL 69€

HEL-OSL 42€

HEL-MUC 90 (01/20)
MUC-HEL 115€ (01/20)
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Old Jul 30, 2017, 10:15 am
  #586  
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Vantaa, Finland
Programs: AY Lumo, FB Gold
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Originally Posted by Courmisch
That particular rotation (AY133/134 on Aug 13) has been up-gauged to A319, presumably due to high demand in one direction.
Interesting that they have also introduced a J cabin at the same time :-o
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Old Jul 30, 2017, 12:16 pm
  #587  
 
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Again this one...

Port pair: AMS-HEL
Price: 107 EUR
FF tier: AY+ Plat
Ticket type: Value
Conveyance: Email
Advance: 15 days
Validity: 36 hours
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Old Aug 1, 2017, 9:40 am
  #588  
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Helsinki
Programs: AY Platinum, IHG Gold, Diners
Posts: 1,276
City-pair: BRU-HEL
Price: 162€
FF tier: AY Platinum
Ticket type: Value
Advance: 10 days
Validity: 36 hours
Conveyance: Email

No thank you.
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Old Aug 1, 2017, 10:07 am
  #589  
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Join Date: Dec 2014
Programs: Accor ALL Platinum
Posts: 1,111
City-pair: HEL-LHR
Price: 159€
FF tier: AY Plat
Ticket type: Light
Advance: 2 weeks
Validity: 36 hours
Conveyance: Email
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Old Aug 1, 2017, 5:11 pm
  #590  
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: HEL
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City-pair: HEL-ARN
Price: 60€
FF tier: AY Platinum
Ticket type: Pro
Advance: 7 days
Conveyance: Email

60€ for a daytime/noon 40-45 mins crossing..I do value my elbow room and personal space a lot but simply not more than at EUR/min rate
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Old Aug 1, 2017, 11:40 pm
  #591  
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Originally Posted by NoWindowSeat
City-pair: HEL-ARN

60€ for a daytime/noon 40-45 mins crossing..
I'm flying today ARN-HEL and e-mail upgrade offer was 100€
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Old Aug 3, 2017, 9:50 am
  #592  
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Join Date: Dec 2014
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Return is 1€ more expensive:

City-pair: LHR-HEL
Price: 160€
FF tier: AY Plat
Ticket type: Light
Advance: 2 weeks
Validity: 36 hours
Conveyance: Email
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Old Aug 4, 2017, 3:26 am
  #593  
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: HEL
Programs: AY+ Platinum
Posts: 422
City-pair: HEL-ARN
Price: 63€
FF tier: AY Gold
Ticket type: Value
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: Email

Looks like Gold would have to pay 3€ more than a Plat
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Old Aug 4, 2017, 10:24 am
  #594  
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: GVA (HEL)
Programs: AY Plat (OWE)
Posts: 536
Originally Posted by FlyingFinn
Interesting that they have also introduced a J cabin at the same time :-o
In a way, yes. But when VNO was an E170 destination not so long time ago, there was always a J cabin.
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Old Aug 4, 2017, 11:20 am
  #595  
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
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Programs: AY+ Plat and several other cards
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Originally Posted by LoungeEnthusiast
In a way, yes. But when VNO was an E170 destination not so long time ago, there was always a J cabin.
It still is when flights to VNO start over on 19AUG with E190s. VNO has been operated with E190s for a few years already, with J cabin. ATR72s seem to be only temporary while replacing VNO with KUN.
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Old Aug 4, 2017, 1:28 pm
  #596  
 
Join Date: May 2012
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Originally Posted by Purjelentaja
It still is when flights to VNO start over on 19AUG with E190s. VNO has been operated with E190s for a few years already, with J cabin. ATR72s seem to be only temporary while replacing VNO with KUN.
Thanks! I thought this might actually be the case but didn't have time to check myself.
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Old Aug 5, 2017, 5:15 pm
  #597  
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: between MUC and NUE
Programs: BA Gold, LH Senator
Posts: 423
City-pair: MUC-HEL
Price: 169€
FF tier: BA Gold
Ticket type: Light
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 7 days
Conveyance: Email

Thank you, but no thank you ...
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Old Aug 6, 2017, 2:06 pm
  #598  
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: HEL
Programs: SPG LTP, hotels, OWE, STE+, *G, Octopus
Posts: 5,785
City-pair: ARN-HEL
Price: 85€
FF tier: AY Basic
Ticket type: Light
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 7 days
Conveyance: Email

First shorthaul upgrade offer in over 17 months from AY, eventhough there have been quite many shorthaul Y bookings. One wonders...
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Old Aug 7, 2017, 12:31 am
  #599  
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: HEL
Programs: AY+ Platinum
Posts: 422
Originally Posted by Hartsa
City-pair: HEL-ARN
Price: 63€
FF tier: AY Gold
Ticket type: Value
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: Email

Looks like Gold would have to pay 3€ more than a Plat
For the return leg ARN-HEL I got the offer for 77€, other information as mentioned above.
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Old Aug 7, 2017, 4:17 am
  #600  
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Originally Posted by Hartsa
Price: 63€
Originally Posted by Hartsa
For the return leg ARN-HEL I got the offer for 77€, other information as mentioned above.
Oh, did they just set a base price and then try +- 10% to see what price collects more money?
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