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Old Mar 12, 2015, 3:34 pm
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Background
From time to time, AY will make the Y traveller an offer to upgrade. This thread lists when, how and and how much the upgrade is.

Selection process is unknown, but it is likely that neither fare class on original ticket nor tier status of traveller is a selection criteria, at least not to travellers advantage. From the reports made so far, both travellers with and without FF# in the reservation have gotten offers.

Offers are likely made only when Y is oversold or nearly full. Some travellers have reported declining offer and being upgraded for free later ("op-up").

Offers are fixed price offers, either in € or in AY+points. The latter kind is only valid for members of AY+, while €-offers are directed to all kind of travellers.

Offers are made either in mail or via text message and recipient has 72 hours to repspond. Some reports says this time is now shortened to 48 hours. Text message offers typically arrive close to departure and may not state a last time to reply.

Offers in text message can be replied to and upgrade is instantly processed. Offers in mail has occasionally not cleared (said to be "sold out" when accepting offer too late).

If offer is accepted and upgrade clears, new ticket is issued in F, so a confirmed upgrade with all perks of business class included. Mileage earning is according to original fare class however.


Development
In august 2015 AY announced a trial to let travellers bid for upgrades, initially on AY89 and AY90. It is likely that bidding will affect the number of fixed price offers.

The trial has been made permanent, and the bidding for upgrade has been extended to more longhaul routes.
The program has also led to a consolidation of upgrade options to one webpage
https://www.finnair.com/int/gb/upgrade-options
where you can upgrade by bidding, by using AY+ points or by accepting last minute cash offers. The latter ("Last minute" offers) are the same as have been discussed in this thread.. Finnair still pushes those offers via e-mail and text-message, but now also shows them on this webpage.




Offers made
Here is a condensed list of offers made, processed including post #213.
Figures are in € unless otherwise stated. Each destination's offers are recorded in a single line in time order.

Longhaul
SIN-HEL 248, 348, 348
HEL-SIN 499, 499, 348, 349€

JFK-HEL 48k points, 348€, 348€, 499

HKG-HEL 248
HEL-HKG 348

BKK-HEL 298, 348, 348
HEL-BKK 48k points, 348€, 348€ (290€ on phone? Not yet confirmed)
HEL-HKT 348

NRT-HEL 498
HEL-KIX 348, 375 (12/19, 01/20)
KIX-HEL 391 (12/19, 01/20)

ICN-HEL 248, 318

HEL-PVG 298
PVG-HEL 448, 498

CKG-HEL 228
XIY-HEL 248

HEL-DEL 198
HEL-DEL 300 (4/19)

YYZ-HEL 225€, 225


Shorthaul
DXB-HEL 99

HEL-VNO 7k points

HEL-BUD 69€
BUD-HEL 69, 8k points, 69

HEL-PRG 69€
PRG-HEL ≈70€

CPH-HEL 7k points, 7k, 69€, 7k, 69€
HEL-CPH 69€, 69, 69

HEL-ARN 7,5k points, 41€

HEL-GOT 7k points
GOT-HEL 7k points

HEL-VIE 69€

HEL-CDG 69€, 69€, 69
CDG-HEL 89€

HEL-MXP 69

HEL-TXL 9k points, 9k
HEL-DUS 69

HEL-HAM 69,69
HAM-HEL 69

HEL-FRA 69€
FRA-HEL 69€, 89, 89€

BRU-HEL 69

GVA-HEL 69
HEL-GVA 69, 89

HEL-LHR 9k points
HEL-LHR 109€

HEL-MAD 89€, 9k points

HEL-SVO 69€

HEL-WAW 79€
WAW-HEL 79€

DUS-HEL 69€

HEL-OSL 42€

HEL-MUC 90 (01/20)
MUC-HEL 115€ (01/20)
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Old Jul 20, 2016, 10:35 am
  #391  
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Helsinki-Vantaa APT, Finland
Programs: AY LUMO
Posts: 6,055
I just took offered 69€ upgrade BUD-HEL on 30JUL to celebrate my last leg to get new Platinum.
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Old Jul 20, 2016, 12:03 pm
  #392  
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: BLL
Programs: AY+ Platinum, SK Gold, HHonors Silver
Posts: 405
I have never got a single upgrade offer by email. How common is it? I only get texts with UG for points. Do you all book through AY website or do you use corporate booking systems? Wonder if ours somehow blocks UG emails - although I do get all the useless emails about "your upcoming flight" from Finnair. Anybody else who doesn't get the email/price offers?
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Old Jul 20, 2016, 12:23 pm
  #393  
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Helsinki-Vantaa APT, Finland
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They are only for special travellers (just kidding)

Hei LGG,

Kiittääksemme sinua siitä, että olet valinnut Finnairin tulevalle matkallesi, haluamme nyt tarjota sinulle erikoistarjouksena matkustusluokan korotuksen varaukselle [48753]. Voit korottaa omasi sekä matkakumppaniesi* matkustusluokan yhteen suuntaan economyluokasta businessluokkaan Finnairin reittilennolla – mutta toimi nopeasti, tarjous on voimassa vain 36 tuntia!
These kind of messages come very often. But they are not so attractive cause points are credited by original economy class ticket.
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Old Jul 20, 2016, 12:57 pm
  #394  
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Plat (OWE), SK EBG (*A Gold), KQ Plat (STE+), Accor Plat
Posts: 3,157
These "special offers" never come to me either. I've only ever got one for the HEL-DEL route.

I have no idea on how they are targeted but apparently I'm not a potential customer? I buy all of my flights either on OTA's or Finnair.com, never use any corporate travel agents.
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Old Jul 20, 2016, 1:58 pm
  #395  
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Lumo, BA Silver, HHonors Gold
Posts: 4,267
I don't fly long haul coach but I have had these upgrade for money -offers for statusless family members booked in coach so they seem to target very large audience with these...and why wouldn't they, same money whoever pays it to them..maybe status pax get them earlier..?

For short hauls I cannot remember ever getting any money offers, only points, so far.
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Old Aug 2, 2016, 2:38 am
  #396  
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Join Date: Dec 2014
Programs: Accor ALL Platinum
Posts: 1,111
City-pair: HEL-TXL
Price: 69€
Ticket type: Light
Advance: 10 days
Validity: 36 hours
Conveyance: Email
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Old Aug 2, 2016, 5:55 am
  #397  
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Programs: AY+ Platinum (OWE), Cathay Gold (OWS)
Posts: 13
Finnair accepted my offer of 278e for AY90 on 1st of august. That was the lowest possible amount that could be offered.
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Old Aug 2, 2016, 7:56 am
  #398  
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Location: HEL
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Originally Posted by Nikke
Finnair accepted my offer of 278e for AY90 on 1st of august. That was the lowest possible amount that could be offered.
Good value, IMO 👍
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Old Aug 2, 2016, 9:19 am
  #399  
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Unio Europaea
Programs: BA GGL, AS, Hertz Cirque Présidentielle
Posts: 1,445
I had a 69€ offer for HEL-FCO in June by e-mail, but I didn't find it impressive enough as I was anyway connecting to EY for C, so didn't bother accepting.
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Old Aug 11, 2016, 12:46 am
  #400  
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Originally Posted by wkndtraveler
City-pair: HEL-TXL
Price: 69€
Ticket type: Light
Advance: 10 days
Validity: 36 hours
Conveyance: Email
New offer for this flight: 9000 points. Validity T-8h, conveyance SMS.
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Old Aug 29, 2016, 3:08 pm
  #401  
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: HEL
Programs: AY+Plat, ALL Plat, Scandic L2
Posts: 3,620
City-pair: HEL-CDG
Price: 89€
Ticket type: R Value
Advance: 10 days
Validity: 36 hours
Conveyance: Email
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Old Sep 3, 2016, 5:32 am
  #402  
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
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HEL-BUD, light, 10 days, email, 69€
- Got also another offer for this flight by SMS, T-25h, 9000 points
BUD-HEL, light, 10 days, email, 69€
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Old Sep 9, 2016, 7:06 pm
  #403  
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Singapore
Programs: Singapore Airlines Krisflyer, IHG One Rewards, Marriot Bonvoy, Wyndham Rewards
Posts: 56
City-pair: SIN-HEL
Flight date: 14SEP16
Price: 239 EUR
FF tier: MH Enrich Blue
Ticket type: Campaign (W)
Advance:
Validity: 36 hours
Conveyance: Website
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Old Sep 10, 2016, 4:12 am
  #404  
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Platinum, TK Elite, BT VIP, AA, BA, SK, DL, NT, WB + hotels
Posts: 8,749
Originally Posted by hashim17
City-pair: SIN-HEL
Flight date: 14SEP16
Price: 239 EUR
This is IMO extremely good value!
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Old Sep 11, 2016, 4:49 am
  #405  
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Finland
Programs: Almost anything with six to twelve steps...
Posts: 1,033
Flight: AY005 (HEL-JFK)
Date: September 16, 2016
Status: AY+ Gold
Ticket type: O
Type of offer: Auction to upgrade to biz (via email)
Bid: €349 (1 star)
Result: Unsuccessful
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