Need your help for a Fairmont trip
#1
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Need your help for a Fairmont trip
Hi everyone!
I will take a small and fast trip this summer in West Canada (i'm from Switzerland) and I want to be FPC plat this year too (the girl at customer service told me if i'm plat before sept. I will be prequalified (mean I dont have to wait March 2012 to get my statut i think).
So, will be just one short week (up to 10 days) from and to Vancouver.
My list is the following:
The Fairmont Hotel Vancouver
The Fairmont Waterfront
The Fairmont Chateau Whistler
The Fairmont Jasper
The Fairmont Edmonton
The Fairmont Palliser (?)
The Fairmont Banff Springs
The Fairmont Chateau Lake Louise
The Fairmont Vancouver Airport
my idea is to spend 1 or 2 nights at each place to see the area (I know will be fast).
So, I want to know with your experience, what is better to do? And wich Fairmont is "must see".
Thanks for your help! (I will travel alone and I like to drive lot of km!) so no issue.
I will take a small and fast trip this summer in West Canada (i'm from Switzerland) and I want to be FPC plat this year too (the girl at customer service told me if i'm plat before sept. I will be prequalified (mean I dont have to wait March 2012 to get my statut i think).
So, will be just one short week (up to 10 days) from and to Vancouver.
My list is the following:
The Fairmont Hotel Vancouver
The Fairmont Waterfront
The Fairmont Chateau Whistler
The Fairmont Jasper
The Fairmont Edmonton
The Fairmont Palliser (?)
The Fairmont Banff Springs
The Fairmont Chateau Lake Louise
The Fairmont Vancouver Airport
my idea is to spend 1 or 2 nights at each place to see the area (I know will be fast).
So, I want to know with your experience, what is better to do? And wich Fairmont is "must see".
Thanks for your help! (I will travel alone and I like to drive lot of km!) so no issue.
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Hi everyone!
I will take a small and fast trip this summer in West Canada (i'm from Switzerland) and I want to be FPC plat this year too (the girl at customer service told me if i'm plat before sept. I will be prequalified (mean I dont have to wait March 2012 to get my statut i think).
I will take a small and fast trip this summer in West Canada (i'm from Switzerland) and I want to be FPC plat this year too (the girl at customer service told me if i'm plat before sept. I will be prequalified (mean I dont have to wait March 2012 to get my statut i think).
Hi everyone!
So, will be just one short week (up to 10 days) from and to Vancouver.
My list is the following:
The Fairmont Hotel Vancouver
The Fairmont Waterfront
The Fairmont Chateau Whistler
The Fairmont Jasper
The Fairmont Edmonton
The Fairmont Palliser (?)
The Fairmont Banff Springs
The Fairmont Chateau Lake Louise
The Fairmont Vancouver Airport
my idea is to spend 1 or 2 nights at each place to see the area (I know will be fast).
So, I want to know with your experience, what is better to do? And wich Fairmont is "must see".
Thanks for your help! (I will travel alone and I like to drive lot of km!) so no issue.
So, will be just one short week (up to 10 days) from and to Vancouver.
My list is the following:
The Fairmont Hotel Vancouver
The Fairmont Waterfront
The Fairmont Chateau Whistler
The Fairmont Jasper
The Fairmont Edmonton
The Fairmont Palliser (?)
The Fairmont Banff Springs
The Fairmont Chateau Lake Louise
The Fairmont Vancouver Airport
my idea is to spend 1 or 2 nights at each place to see the area (I know will be fast).
So, I want to know with your experience, what is better to do? And wich Fairmont is "must see".
Thanks for your help! (I will travel alone and I like to drive lot of km!) so no issue.
IMO both the Macdonald and the Palliser are nothing to get excited about, but may be convenient as a layover.
In Vancouver, i´d definitely try to include the Pacifc Rim, definitely the nicest Fairmont hotel in Vancouver IMO.
My favourite property in the Rockies is the Jasper Park Lodge, but many prefer the Banff Springs, both are great hotels not to be missed, Lake Louise has a great lake, but the Fairmont rooms are pretty mediocre (unlike the rooms on the Gold floor are very nice)
Whistler is a bit out of your way, and it´s not that an exciting place in summer anyway, but personally I´d probably drop it and add one more night in the Rockies or in Vancouver.
Have you considered a routing like Edmonton - Jasper - Lake Louise - Banff - Calgary? The Icefield Parkway definitely is a must IMO and is one of the msot scenic routes in Canada.
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Jasper Park Lodge is also my favorite, but I think lots prefer the Banff Springs. I like JPL for the cabin feel, and just prefer the Jasper area better in general!
I LOVE the Whistler property in Winter, there is nothing better than having a Corono in the outdoor hot tubs. That being said, I am also a big fan of the Whistler area in summer, so it is a tough decision! I would probably do the Vancovuer/Whistler thing, and then hop on a plane and fly to Calgary or Edmonton (westjet or Air Canada are your 2 options), and then do the rocky mountain circle (Calgary, Banff, Lake Louise, Jasper, Edmonton - or vice versa).
I LOVE the Whistler property in Winter, there is nothing better than having a Corono in the outdoor hot tubs. That being said, I am also a big fan of the Whistler area in summer, so it is a tough decision! I would probably do the Vancovuer/Whistler thing, and then hop on a plane and fly to Calgary or Edmonton (westjet or Air Canada are your 2 options), and then do the rocky mountain circle (Calgary, Banff, Lake Louise, Jasper, Edmonton - or vice versa).
#4
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Good advice above, though I have to disagree with Jasper on this point:
There is plenty going on in Whistler in the summer (they actually get more total visitors in the summer than in the winter). Since Vancouver is your starting point Whistler is just a 2 hour drive up the spectacular Sea-to-Sky highway and far easier to get to than Banff or Jasper. And the Chateau is fantastic property.
Since your trip is short I'd recommend just sticking to Vancouver & Whistler (with a possible add on of Vancovuer Island), and save the Alberta Rockies for a future trip to/from Calgary. You can maximize stays by moving between the three downtown Vancouver Fairmonts, they're all within a few blocks of each other.
If the Rockies are a must-do then I'd follow CFH's advice and look into flights between Vancouver and Calgary or Edmonton. Otherwise a route like Vancouver - Whistler - Jasper - Banff/Lake Louise - Vancouver would be a great driving loop, but to do it in only 7-10 days wouldn't allow a whole of time to enjoy these places. It really depends on what you're looking to do while there.
Since your trip is short I'd recommend just sticking to Vancouver & Whistler (with a possible add on of Vancovuer Island), and save the Alberta Rockies for a future trip to/from Calgary. You can maximize stays by moving between the three downtown Vancouver Fairmonts, they're all within a few blocks of each other.
If the Rockies are a must-do then I'd follow CFH's advice and look into flights between Vancouver and Calgary or Edmonton. Otherwise a route like Vancouver - Whistler - Jasper - Banff/Lake Louise - Vancouver would be a great driving loop, but to do it in only 7-10 days wouldn't allow a whole of time to enjoy these places. It really depends on what you're looking to do while there.
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Good advice above, though I have to disagree with Jasper on this point:
There is plenty going on in Whistler in the summer (they actually get more total visitors in the summer than in the winter). Since Vancouver is your starting point Whistler is just a 2 hour drive up the spectacular Sea-to-Sky highway and far easier to get to than Banff or Jasper. And the Chateau is fantastic property.
There is plenty going on in Whistler in the summer (they actually get more total visitors in the summer than in the winter). Since Vancouver is your starting point Whistler is just a 2 hour drive up the spectacular Sea-to-Sky highway and far easier to get to than Banff or Jasper. And the Chateau is fantastic property.
Adding Victoria / concentrating on the West Coast may not be a bad idea, or as suggested above take a plane from YVR to YYC/YEG to save time.
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Since the OP said he loves driving I suggest something along these lines:
Arrive Calgary: Palliser
Drive to Banff Springs
Drive to Jasper Park Lodge
Drive down to Lake Louise
Drive to Vancouver stay at: Pacific Rim
Drive to Whistler
Drive back down to Horseshoe Bay and take ferry to Vancouver Island and stay at Empress
Drive to Tsawassen Bay take ferry back to Vancouver if you are leaving next day you can stay at Fairmont Vancouver airport or back to the Pacific Rim
So that's 8 nights so you can decide where to stay an additional two nights so you don't have to drive every day. Most of the drives are actually only a couple hours except for getting to Jasper and Vancouver.
I've done a very similar trip quite a few times over the years when family comes to visit from Europe. They have all been very impressed since most of the Fairmonts are actually landmarks to see anyway. Now I haven't done it in such a short period but not much longer either.
It's just a tough call in case you want to shorten the amount of driving which Fairmonts to exclude. Being Suisse the OP gets a good chance to be amongst mountains but I still think Whistler is a must see. It's just 100% different then the resorts OP has back home. Victoria/Vancouver have the Ocean which the OP also doesn't have in his backyard.
Arrive Calgary: Palliser
Drive to Banff Springs
Drive to Jasper Park Lodge
Drive down to Lake Louise
Drive to Vancouver stay at: Pacific Rim
Drive to Whistler
Drive back down to Horseshoe Bay and take ferry to Vancouver Island and stay at Empress
Drive to Tsawassen Bay take ferry back to Vancouver if you are leaving next day you can stay at Fairmont Vancouver airport or back to the Pacific Rim
So that's 8 nights so you can decide where to stay an additional two nights so you don't have to drive every day. Most of the drives are actually only a couple hours except for getting to Jasper and Vancouver.
I've done a very similar trip quite a few times over the years when family comes to visit from Europe. They have all been very impressed since most of the Fairmonts are actually landmarks to see anyway. Now I haven't done it in such a short period but not much longer either.
It's just a tough call in case you want to shorten the amount of driving which Fairmonts to exclude. Being Suisse the OP gets a good chance to be amongst mountains but I still think Whistler is a must see. It's just 100% different then the resorts OP has back home. Victoria/Vancouver have the Ocean which the OP also doesn't have in his backyard.
#7
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Options for Fairmont properties in BC and Alberta
There are a number of sample itineraries for the properties referenced on the Fairmont website. These itineraries include travel times, recommended excursions and other useful insights:
http://mountain-resorts.fairmont.com/38/itineraries
http://mountain-resorts.fairmont.com/38/itineraries
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Wow! To many replies! Thanks so much!
So, I think the idea to fly from Vancouver to Calgary can be good and fun too! Vancouver is a easy city to discove by feet? or NEED a car?
So for Vancouver I will do the Pacific Rim and the Fairmont Vancouver then take the plane to Calgary and do the:
Banff
Lake Louise
Jasper
Edmonton
Calgary
I dont want to only sleep one night in each hotel, because you can't really "enjoy" the place when is just one night, so I was not sure if I go to Edmonton (MacDonald is a must see too? I know lot of you knows this hotel).
Banff is a little kid dream, and I booked this hotel for next year (honeymoon trip (my poor future wife hate trees )) So I want to check if can be still good!
And when back to Vancouver, stay maybe in Fairmont Airport? I read at some place the Fairmont Airport is a good one, or maybe I just wait to book when i start my trip and see wich one (between Pacitic Rim and Fairmont Vancouver) is my fav.
Thanks everyone and sorry for my english mistakes!
So, I think the idea to fly from Vancouver to Calgary can be good and fun too! Vancouver is a easy city to discove by feet? or NEED a car?
So for Vancouver I will do the Pacific Rim and the Fairmont Vancouver then take the plane to Calgary and do the:
Banff
Lake Louise
Jasper
Edmonton
Calgary
I dont want to only sleep one night in each hotel, because you can't really "enjoy" the place when is just one night, so I was not sure if I go to Edmonton (MacDonald is a must see too? I know lot of you knows this hotel).
Banff is a little kid dream, and I booked this hotel for next year (honeymoon trip (my poor future wife hate trees )) So I want to check if can be still good!
And when back to Vancouver, stay maybe in Fairmont Airport? I read at some place the Fairmont Airport is a good one, or maybe I just wait to book when i start my trip and see wich one (between Pacitic Rim and Fairmont Vancouver) is my fav.
Thanks everyone and sorry for my english mistakes!
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Wow! To many replies! Thanks so much!
So, I think the idea to fly from Vancouver to Calgary can be good and fun too! Vancouver is a easy city to discove by feet? or NEED a car?
I dont want to only sleep one night in each hotel, because you can't really "enjoy" the place when is just one night, so I was not sure if I go to Edmonton (MacDonald is a must see too? I know lot of you knows this hotel).
Banff is a little kid dream, and I booked this hotel for next year (honeymoon trip (my poor future wife hate trees )) So I want to check if can be still good!
And when back to Vancouver, stay maybe in Fairmont Airport? I read at some place the Fairmont Airport is a good one, or maybe I just wait to book when i start my trip and see wich one (between Pacitic Rim and Fairmont Vancouver) is my fav.
Thanks everyone and sorry for my english mistakes!
So, I think the idea to fly from Vancouver to Calgary can be good and fun too! Vancouver is a easy city to discove by feet? or NEED a car?
I dont want to only sleep one night in each hotel, because you can't really "enjoy" the place when is just one night, so I was not sure if I go to Edmonton (MacDonald is a must see too? I know lot of you knows this hotel).
Banff is a little kid dream, and I booked this hotel for next year (honeymoon trip (my poor future wife hate trees )) So I want to check if can be still good!
And when back to Vancouver, stay maybe in Fairmont Airport? I read at some place the Fairmont Airport is a good one, or maybe I just wait to book when i start my trip and see wich one (between Pacitic Rim and Fairmont Vancouver) is my fav.
Thanks everyone and sorry for my english mistakes!
The Calgary and Edmonton Fairmonts can't be compared to the others on the list. I would suggest spend your nights at other hotels if your schedule allows.
Fairmont Vancouver Airport is a great "Airport" hotel but you can't really compare it to Pacific Rim Hotel and it's location. But once again I think this is a schedule thing, if you have lots of time before heading home in Vancouver I would choose a downtown hotel and enjoy your last day near the water, superb restaurants and social scene.
In case you have an extra night by not spending it in Calgary or Edmonton you can rent a car for a day in Vancouver and go to Whistler or Victoria because even just the journeys to these hotels are wonderful.
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Since the OP said he loves driving I suggest something along these lines:
Arrive Calgary: Palliser
Drive to Banff Springs
Drive to Jasper Park Lodge
Drive down to Lake Louise
Drive to Vancouver stay at: Pacific Rim
Drive to Whistler
Drive back down to Horseshoe Bay and take ferry to Vancouver Island and stay at Empress
Drive to Tsawassen Bay take ferry back to Vancouver if you are leaving next day you can stay at Fairmont Vancouver airport or back to the Pacific Rim
So that's 8 nights so you can decide where to stay an additional two nights so you don't have to drive every day. Most of the drives are actually only a couple hours except for getting to Jasper and Vancouver.
I've done a very similar trip quite a few times over the years when family comes to visit from Europe. They have all been very impressed since most of the Fairmonts are actually landmarks to see anyway. Now I haven't done it in such a short period but not much longer either.
It's just a tough call in case you want to shorten the amount of driving which Fairmonts to exclude. Being Suisse the OP gets a good chance to be amongst mountains but I still think Whistler is a must see. It's just 100% different then the resorts OP has back home. Victoria/Vancouver have the Ocean which the OP also doesn't have in his backyard.
Arrive Calgary: Palliser
Drive to Banff Springs
Drive to Jasper Park Lodge
Drive down to Lake Louise
Drive to Vancouver stay at: Pacific Rim
Drive to Whistler
Drive back down to Horseshoe Bay and take ferry to Vancouver Island and stay at Empress
Drive to Tsawassen Bay take ferry back to Vancouver if you are leaving next day you can stay at Fairmont Vancouver airport or back to the Pacific Rim
So that's 8 nights so you can decide where to stay an additional two nights so you don't have to drive every day. Most of the drives are actually only a couple hours except for getting to Jasper and Vancouver.
I've done a very similar trip quite a few times over the years when family comes to visit from Europe. They have all been very impressed since most of the Fairmonts are actually landmarks to see anyway. Now I haven't done it in such a short period but not much longer either.
It's just a tough call in case you want to shorten the amount of driving which Fairmonts to exclude. Being Suisse the OP gets a good chance to be amongst mountains but I still think Whistler is a must see. It's just 100% different then the resorts OP has back home. Victoria/Vancouver have the Ocean which the OP also doesn't have in his backyard.
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like others i recommend skipping Edmonton and Calgary Fairmont. Highly recommend the drive from Banff to Jasper.
Skip the Fairmont Airport hotel in Vancouver unless you have a very early flight. I would only stay at the Pacific Rim in Vancouver. Are you trying to gain status by jumping around to each hotel? You only need 10 stays for platinum. So Banff, Lake Louise, Jasper, Pacific Rim and just book one room a night check in/out to double up the visit count.
Skip the Fairmont Airport hotel in Vancouver unless you have a very early flight. I would only stay at the Pacific Rim in Vancouver. Are you trying to gain status by jumping around to each hotel? You only need 10 stays for platinum. So Banff, Lake Louise, Jasper, Pacific Rim and just book one room a night check in/out to double up the visit count.
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Good point. I thought Jasper-Vancouver was a much longer drive then Louise-Van until I just looked at the map. Drive lots in BC and Alberta but rarely go north of the TransCanada highway.
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Wow! To many replies! Thanks so much!
So, I think the idea to fly from Vancouver to Calgary can be good and fun too! Vancouver is a easy city to discove by feet? or NEED a car?
So for Vancouver I will do the Pacific Rim and the Fairmont Vancouver then take the plane to Calgary and do the:
Banff
Lake Louise
Jasper
Edmonton
Calgary
I dont want to only sleep one night in each hotel, because you can't really "enjoy" the place when is just one night, so I was not sure if I go to Edmonton (MacDonald is a must see too? I know lot of you knows this hotel).
Banff is a little kid dream, and I booked this hotel for next year (honeymoon trip (my poor future wife hate trees )) So I want to check if can be still good!
And when back to Vancouver, stay maybe in Fairmont Airport? I read at some place the Fairmont Airport is a good one, or maybe I just wait to book when i start my trip and see wich one (between Pacitic Rim and Fairmont Vancouver) is my fav.
Thanks everyone and sorry for my english mistakes!
So, I think the idea to fly from Vancouver to Calgary can be good and fun too! Vancouver is a easy city to discove by feet? or NEED a car?
So for Vancouver I will do the Pacific Rim and the Fairmont Vancouver then take the plane to Calgary and do the:
Banff
Lake Louise
Jasper
Edmonton
Calgary
I dont want to only sleep one night in each hotel, because you can't really "enjoy" the place when is just one night, so I was not sure if I go to Edmonton (MacDonald is a must see too? I know lot of you knows this hotel).
Banff is a little kid dream, and I booked this hotel for next year (honeymoon trip (my poor future wife hate trees )) So I want to check if can be still good!
And when back to Vancouver, stay maybe in Fairmont Airport? I read at some place the Fairmont Airport is a good one, or maybe I just wait to book when i start my trip and see wich one (between Pacitic Rim and Fairmont Vancouver) is my fav.
Thanks everyone and sorry for my english mistakes!
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If you´re staying at the Banff Springs for two nights, you could limit yourself to one night at Lake Louise (it´s only half an hour away)
Also, if you do include Edmonton or Calgary, I wouldn´t stay more than one night. (personally I don´t consider them "must visit" hotels and would probably skip them alltogether)
I´d definitely recommend staying at the Pacific Rim. The Fairmont Vancouver Airport is likely the nicest airport hotel I´ve seen and definitely is a 4*+ hotel, but not as nice as the Pacific Rim.
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i´d recommend taking a seaplane from Vancouver Coal Harbour, spend one night at the Fairmont Empress and return to Vancouver (staying at the Pacific Rim).
Both the Pacific Rim and the Empress are about 50m away from where the seaplanes land and the flight is a great experience (flight takes about 25min and will also save a lot of time vs. taking a car/ferry)