FlyerTalk Forums - KLM Flying Dutchman http://www.flyertalk.com/forum en Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:57:53 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/images/misc/rss.jpg FlyerTalk Forums - KLM Flying Dutchman http://www.flyertalk.com/forum <![CDATA[Martinair Considers Intruducing "Business" Class]]> http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/klm-flying-dutchman/1019084-martinair-considers-intruducing-business-class.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:56:26 GMT "Martinair wil aan boord van zijn passagiersvliegtuigen weer een business class service gaan bieden. Dat zegt managing director Paul Gregorowitsch van het KLM-dochterbedrijf in een interview met zakenblad FEM. Door de in 2007 geschrapte Star Class te herintroduceren kan de Nederlandse luchtvaartmaatschappij een passend product bieden aan business class-passagiers van KLM die overstappen op Martinair-vluchten."

Martinair wants to reintroduce Star Class so that they can offer C class pax transferring from KL a suitable product.

:D :D

Good idea, I guess it won't take long for WBC to deteriorate to the point where they can simply rename it Star Class anyway. ES qualified for that name long ago.

Source:luchtvaartnieuws.nl

Johan ]]> KLM Flying Dutchman johan rebel http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/klm-flying-dutchman/1019084-martinair-considers-intruducing-business-class.html I hate you KLM http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/klm-flying-dutchman/1018972-i-hate-you-klm.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:06:55 GMT After searching for several tickets Ex-ZRH to PVG, I've come to find amazing offers of only around 410 € all incl.
Booked for 3 people yesterday, happy about the good offer I found, way cheaper than anywhere else. (Yes I know it will be the 747-Combi without any entertainment, but who cares with such a fare)

Today I check out their website again to find out they've lowered the price another 60 Euro... damn you KLM! 350 € for a R/T to asia with 4 segments... you're robbing yourself with this! I never thought I'm going to complain about a 410 € fare but here it comes: KLM, how do you dare to go so low? :D:mad:;)

Seriously, how can they offer fares so low? When fuel was on 30$ or so couple month ago, LH had fares of around 420€ to Asia, on which they barely made any money with. Now, KLM goes much lower with fuel costing double... How is this working? They even get me 25% miles. (And for 4 RT's, I would qualify for Silver due to segments :D ) ]]> KLM Flying Dutchman YuropFlyer http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/klm-flying-dutchman/1018972-i-hate-you-klm.html Problems with klm.nl web site http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/klm-flying-dutchman/1018602-problems-klm-nl-web-site.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:36:36 GMT For the last two weeks or so, when I am trying to access klm.nl (with re-direct to http://www.klm.com/travel/nl_nl/index_default.html) the site appears for a split-second, then disappears (screen goes blank) while it is trying to download a file... For the last two weeks or so, when I am trying to access klm.nl (with re-direct to http://www.klm.com/travel/nl_nl/index_default.html) the site appears for a split-second, then disappears (screen goes blank) while it is trying to download a file from http://statse.webtrendslive.com/.........

This only happens on Internet Explorer, Firefox works fine.

Does anyone else have the same problem? ]]> KLM Flying Dutchman Sjoerd http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/klm-flying-dutchman/1018602-problems-klm-nl-web-site.html Security Code/Extra check? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/klm-flying-dutchman/1018575-security-code-extra-check.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:39:30 GMT Hi I have noticed two changes over the past year or so. 1. There seems to be a Security Code/Security Number at the bottom of my boarding pass. Sometimes it is 51, 29, etc. etc. I am sure this wasnt there before. Do other people have this too? ... Hi
I have noticed two changes over the past year or so.
1. There seems to be a Security Code/Security Number at the bottom of my boarding pass. Sometimes it is 51, 29, etc. etc. I am sure this wasnt there before. Do other people have this too?

2. At the immigration counter, they now scan my boarding pass as well as my passport....anybody else have this?

Thanks!
Amber ]]> KLM Flying Dutchman AmbiBambi http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/klm-flying-dutchman/1018575-security-code-extra-check.html Boeing 777-200: Window Seat (23J/24J/25J) http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/klm-flying-dutchman/1018451-boeing-777-200-window-seat-23j-24j-25j.html Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:00:43 GMT I'm hoping someone can shed some light on this...

Boeing 777-200
Seat: 23J OR 24J OR 25J

Are those seats by the wings? i want a seat behind the wing so that i can see the African costline when we get to it.

Can someone please assist. ]]> KLM Flying Dutchman jordanf56 http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/klm-flying-dutchman/1018451-boeing-777-200-window-seat-23j-24j-25j.html How long does it take to issue an e-ticket? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/klm-flying-dutchman/1018341-how-long-does-take-issue-e-ticket.html Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:06:33 GMT A week ago I booked a flight on KLM.ch. I received the confirmation number and was able to select seats (it's an ES/WBC combination). But so far neither my credit card has been charged nor did I receive an e-ticket number. How long can this take? I hope, they issue the ticket before departure on December 14 :o! ]]> KLM Flying Dutchman KL803 http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/klm-flying-dutchman/1018341-how-long-does-take-issue-e-ticket.html Nigerian Files N200m Suit Against KL http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/klm-flying-dutchman/1018297-nigerian-files-n200m-suit-against-kl.html Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:18:14 GMT "A Nigerian citizen and ethics crusader, Ike Onyechere, has filed a N2000 million suit against KLM Royal Dutch Airline, being general and exemplary damages for allegedly treating him like a drug carrier and common criminal thereby subjecting him to public ridicule, embarrassment and loss of reputation and emotional trauma."

Source: leadershipnigeria.com

Johan ]]> KLM Flying Dutchman johan rebel http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/klm-flying-dutchman/1018297-nigerian-files-n200m-suit-against-kl.html Seat selection in WBC help. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/klm-flying-dutchman/1017978-seat-selection-wbc-help.html Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:49:41 GMT Hello all!

I've just booked an award seat BHX - DXB for August through Flying Blue. The outbound sector is with AF in J and this allowed me to select seats.

The return sector on KLM in WBC has not given me the option to select seats, even through MMB. All this was booked through the AF site / Flying Blue which, I guess, is perhaps why I cannot select seats on KLM metal.

Is there a way round this or a number I can call in the UK to book specific seats?

Thanks as ever! ]]> KLM Flying Dutchman simonnewby http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/klm-flying-dutchman/1017978-seat-selection-wbc-help.html Could this have been on a KLM flight? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/klm-flying-dutchman/1017809-could-have-been-klm-flight.html Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:20:19 GMT http://edition.cnn.com/2009/TRAVEL/11/16/alcohol.airline.flights/index.html Interesting story on the effects of alcohol and flying. ---Quote--- Sandra Langer explains why: On a recent trip from Amsterdam to New York, she watched a good number... http://edition.cnn.com/2009/TRAVEL/1...hts/index.html

Interesting story on the effects of alcohol and flying.
Quote:
Sandra Langer explains why: On a recent trip from Amsterdam to New York, she watched a good number of her fellow passengers get hammered. "Red-faced men blocked the aisles, puked in the bathroom and groped the females -- along with a laughing crew," says Langer, a writer who lives in New York.
Later she goes on to say
Quote:
The trip made a lasting impression on Langer. "Never again will I take a connecting flight through Amsterdam," she says.
Which led me to believe that her experience was on KLM. Any thoughts? ]]> KLM Flying Dutchman evanderm http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/klm-flying-dutchman/1017809-could-have-been-klm-flight.html China-Europe in WBC: CTU on a 772 or PVG on a 744? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/klm-flying-dutchman/1017358-china-europe-wbc-ctu-772-pvg-744-a.html Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:47:14 GMT Dear all,

I will soon be flying from China to Europe in KLM WBC and have the option of flying either from CTU on a 772 or PVG on a 744. I've only flown KLM WBC once before, on a 772, I believe, on AMS-IAD and thought it was quite decent. No experience of KLM's 747s.

Does anyone have any thoughts as to whether I should prefer one over the other? According to the Aircraft and Seating Guide, the 772 has more recline than the 744—are the 772 seats indeed better? Or does the 772 feel more cramped due to the 2-3-2 layout vs. the 744’s 2-2-2? Is service perhaps likely to be better on the more competitive PVG route? Does anyone have experience of the lounge facilities at CTU?

Any input would be greatly appreciated. ]]> KLM Flying Dutchman parsifal http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/klm-flying-dutchman/1017358-china-europe-wbc-ctu-772-pvg-744-a.html Paying for coffee at business class lounges? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/klm-flying-dutchman/1016682-paying-coffee-business-class-lounges.html Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:05:05 GMT From this thread http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/flying-blue-air-france-klm/1007385-lounge-mexico-city-airport.html it appears that pax have to pay for coffee at the lounge in MEX. I have never heard of this before. Are there other ST C... From this thread
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/flyin...y-airport.html it appears that pax have to pay for coffee at the lounge in MEX.

I have never heard of this before. Are there other ST C lounges where you have to pay for coffee?

I should clarify that it seems that the lounge in use currently at MEX T1 is not ST's, as it is borrowed use while the Aeromexico lounge is being constructed or refurbished. Nonetheless, it is not the fault of pax that is happening, and I would not normally expect to pay for coffee at an ST lounge, so would not expect it if I have to use a different lounge because of operational reasons.

Note to moderators: The link given in this post is in the FB section, and that thread should probably be here or in AF as it has nothing to do with FB really. ]]> KLM Flying Dutchman brian1042 http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/klm-flying-dutchman/1016682-paying-coffee-business-class-lounges.html Can you standby for an earlier flight? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/klm-flying-dutchman/1016439-can-you-standby-earlier-flight.html Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:42:32 GMT So have a long layover, that I'm not so interested in anymore...can one standby for an earlier flight without paying the change fee? It's AMS-HAM... ]]> KLM Flying Dutchman NOLAnwGOLD http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/klm-flying-dutchman/1016439-can-you-standby-earlier-flight.html Row 8 and 9 in Y on A330-200 http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/klm-flying-dutchman/1016093-row-8-9-y-a330-200-a.html Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:31:19 GMT I am currently reserving my seat in advance. Y in an A330-200. To my surprise I see a row 8 and 9 in Y with configuration 2-4-2. As usual, row 10 is 2-0-2. I fail to see the logic here. One less row of J? (would be rather symptomatic for the way... I am currently reserving my seat in advance. Y in an A330-200. To my surprise I see a row 8 and 9 in Y with configuration 2-4-2. As usual, row 10 is 2-0-2.

I fail to see the logic here. One less row of J? (would be rather symptomatic for the way KLM ios heading)
Is it about the new economy arrangement? (I would expect less rows instead of more)

Any comments or inside information on this? ]]> KLM Flying Dutchman Zembla http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/klm-flying-dutchman/1016093-row-8-9-y-a330-200-a.html Return flight with one way reward http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/klm-flying-dutchman/1015286-return-flight-one-way-reward.html Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:11:42 GMT Hi all!
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I've done a search for this question but couldn't find the answer in the forums or the KLM web site.

I'll be flying to londen next friday (13th of november), but i still have to book the tickets. For the AMS-LON leg there is a fare of €99 but some of my friends can't make it to the airport in time. so now it looks like we're stuck to a ~€200 fare for the first part. the return flight is available for €100 on at a decent time.

Now i was wondering if it would be posible to use miles for the AMS-LON leg, and still get the €100 return leg fare...

A one way ticket back would cost me about €250 so it wouldn't make much sense to use miles and a one way ticket back.

So basicly it comes down to this question: is there a possiblity to pay one leg of a return ticket with miles?

I can't find anything on the website, would calling the PE booking line help? ]]> KLM Flying Dutchman jvangilst http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/klm-flying-dutchman/1015286-return-flight-one-way-reward.html KLM B744 to fly on biofuel http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/klm-flying-dutchman/1013498-klm-b744-fly-biofuel.html Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:16:18 GMT On 23 November a B744 will fly for an hour above The Netherlands on a combination of biofuel [Camelina] and kerosine. There will be passengers on board as well.

http://www.nu.nl/economie/2115654/kl...brandstof.html ]]> KLM Flying Dutchman Gajan http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/klm-flying-dutchman/1013498-klm-b744-fly-biofuel.html