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			<title><![CDATA[Where to sit in Etihad's staggered "Pearl" business class seating]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:14:06 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Took advantage of Etihad's  BRU-Oz special (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/mileage-run-deals/521443-good-deal-premium-fares-250.html#post12402315) but couldn't find definitive biz (Pearl) seating info for those staggered seats on EY, so here's my...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Took advantage of Etihad's <a href="http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/mileage-run-deals/521443-good-deal-premium-fares-250.html#post12402315" target="_blank"> BRU-Oz special</a> but couldn't find definitive biz (Pearl) seating info for those staggered seats on EY, so here's my input.<br />
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Biz Cabin has a light, airy feel due to the absence of overhead bins in the centre. The only bins are by the windows so get in early. There's no underseat storage either, everything must go in a bin or be spirited away by the cabin crew to a cupboard. Worse, the bins are not deep enough to accommodate a regular rollaboard wheels-first.<br />
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The actual seats are great, like other's F seats, huge 88&quot; pitch and continuous recline to flat bed with an ottoman - but less flimsy than eg BA J and better laid out. With their peculiar staggered seating, no-one ever has to climb over anyone else. Nice big IFE screens and reasonable choice. Good lighting, choice of 3 lights. Laptop power points accept European, US, Aus and every plug except the UK 3-pin used in their own country.<br />
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Flew on the A332 v1, the one with no F, but the biz cabins are similar on most of the other configs.<br />
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In this case Biz was rows 4-10: 3 centre pairs, 10 aisles, 6 windows =  22 total<br />
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For a single traveller (unless claustrophobic) the window seats are very private but not locked in. You squeeze in and out through a narrow gap between the closed ends of the aisle seats half-behind and half-in-front. The bulkhead window is rather near the curtain and 5K fronts onto a toilet. The mid-cabin windows are the nicest IMO..<br />
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...Though the rearmost window seats are shown as green-desirable by SeatGuru being even more private as no-one is overlooking you. But I sat in one and found it less desirable: narrower than the others, backing onto the galley noise and nowhere to rest my aisle-side arm due to a sort of wall above the armrest - actually the back of an FA's cupboard with a flat table-top from where things could ultimately spill onto one's head. <br />
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Window seats have more room then the others, some potential storage on the floor alongside the window - important as there's not much storage around these seats, they're only 20&quot; wide.<br />
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For a couple 5EF, 7EF or 9EF are the only ones with 2 seats (beds) alongside. 5EF are at the bulkhead, effectively aisle seats, but 7EF and 9EF are quite private, and the seats flatten out to a sort of double bed. hmmm! <br />
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For a couple wanting to sit opposite sides of the aisle, this doesn't work as for example 8G is a metre in front of 8H. Similarly there are no aisle / window pairs. So if you can't get 5/7/9 EF you won't be together. However the ottoman would seat a companion temporarily to share a meal or play chess.<br />
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Summary:<br />
single person - window seats, private but not locked in<br />
couples - centre pairing only, very private unless bulkhead<br />
aisle seats - rather exposed<br />
back row - avoid<br />
overhead bin space extremely limited</div>

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			<title>Baggage limits for Jazeera airways</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:30:26 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I am taking a seperate segment from Dubai to Bahrain return ticket for 5 days starting 01/13/2010. My original flight is from NY to Mumbai, India with Emirates. I have 2 checked baggages and 2 carry-on baggages. Is it possible to take all the...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I am taking a seperate segment from Dubai to Bahrain return ticket for 5 days starting 01/13/2010. My original flight is from NY to Mumbai, India with Emirates. I have 2 checked baggages and 2 carry-on baggages. Is it possible to take all the luggages without paying anything extra with Jazeera airlines?</div>

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			<dc:creator>kay_jay</dc:creator>
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			<title>Possible to book infant with seat on Etihad website?</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:07:24 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hello, 
 
I am trying to book a trip on Etihad's website.  We will be traveling with our 19 month old daughter, and would like to purchase a seat for her (do not want her to be a lap child).  When I choose "Infant" on the booking menu, and go...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hello,<br />
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I am trying to book a trip on Etihad's website.  We will be traveling with our 19 month old daughter, and would like to purchase a seat for her (do not want her to be a lap child).  When I choose &quot;Infant&quot; on the booking menu, and go through the booking process to the point where I can choose seats, the website indicates that the infant fare (AED 150) is a lap child fare and she will not get a seat assignment of her own.<br />
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I've called Etihad's US reservation line and the person I spoke to guaranteed that an infant fare sold on the website would provide a seat for my daughter.  According to my experience with the website so far, this is not correct.  Is there another way to book an infant with a seat on the website?  If so, how can I do it?  I am willing to pay the appropriate fare for an infant in a seat, it just seems that that the Etihad website is not set up to sell any seats to children under 2 years (assumes that children under 2 are always treated as lap children).<br />
<br />
If the website booking is not possible, I guess I will contact the reservations number and make the booking over the phone.<br />
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Thank you in advance for any help!</div>

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			<dc:creator>AAMCI</dc:creator>
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			<title>Vauables in checked in luggage... Still a problem at JNB?</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:51:26 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>The first time I transited through JNB a few years back, I discovered the baggage handlers there had a bit of an affirmative shopping problem when some DVDs and a leather belt went missing from my checked in luggage.  Is JNB still problematic in...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>The first time I transited through JNB a few years back, I discovered the baggage handlers there had a bit of an affirmative shopping problem when some DVDs and a leather belt went missing from my checked in luggage.  Is JNB still problematic in this respect?</div>

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			<dc:creator>Internaut</dc:creator>
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			<title>best way first clASS  JFK TO JOHANASBURG?</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:38:37 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>THE nonstop is a day flight--does it make more sense to fly via europe or middle east? How is the saa flight?</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>THE nonstop is a day flight--does it make more sense to fly via europe or middle east? How is the saa flight?</div>

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			<dc:creator>martino</dc:creator>
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			<title>SAA 744 First Class Intra-Africa?</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:44:05 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I redeemed CO ONEPASS miles for a ticket in "F" from IAH-CPT via FRA-LAD-JNB. 
 
Currently SA55, the LAD-JNB segment is booked in "F" which according to FT and other sources is no longer offered on SAA. 
 
Thus, my question, does SAA offer "F"...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I redeemed CO ONEPASS miles for a ticket in &quot;F&quot; from IAH-CPT via FRA-LAD-JNB.<br />
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Currently SA55, the LAD-JNB segment is booked in &quot;F&quot; which according to FT and other sources is no longer offered on SAA.<br />
<br />
Thus, my question, does SAA offer &quot;F&quot; service anymore or am I simply getting the original SAA &quot;F&quot; seat (which looks really nice) with &quot;J&quot; service (which also looks pretty nice)?<br />
<br />
If they do in fact offer &quot;F&quot; service on this route, what is the difference between &quot;F&quot; and &quot;J&quot; beyond the seat?<br />
<br />
Thanks for any insight,<br />
Dan</div>

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			<dc:creator>dan1431</dc:creator>
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			<title>Does MEA charge fuel surcharge on Cedar Miles award redemptions?</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:13:17 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[It's been a while since I have redeemed with MEA Cedar Miles, and have not credited any flights to them recently. A few upcoming flights may push me to credit to them if they do not charge.  Does anyone know if MEA has been charging YQ on award...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>It's been a while since I have redeemed with MEA Cedar Miles, and have not credited any flights to them recently. A few upcoming flights may push me to credit to them if they do not charge.  Does anyone know if MEA has been charging YQ on award tickets recently (for ME or partner airlines)?<br />
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Thanks.</div>

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			<dc:creator>Angeleno228</dc:creator>
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			<title>Etihad Guest - Horrible flyer program</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:58:02 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>folks 
 
Does anybody have experience with the etihad guest flyer program? I find it difficult to get in touch with them (only one call center in Germany) and once I get to them, they keep giving excuses that their system is down and I should call...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>folks<br />
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Does anybody have experience with the etihad guest flyer program? I find it difficult to get in touch with them (only one call center in Germany) and once I get to them, they keep giving excuses that their system is down and I should call back. Calling from the states is 25c/min and it adds up quick. On email, their answers are very vague and direct me to URL's on their website that don't even exist<br />
<br />
Just trying to get other's opinion out there but it looks like I'll be dumping Etihad for good<br />
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thank you</div>

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			<dc:creator>sam007</dc:creator>
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			<title>Air Zimbabwe plane smashes into wild pigs</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 05:23:50 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[HARARE, Zimbabwe — Zimbabwe's transport ministry says one of the national airline's planes collided with five wild pigs on the runway in the capital during takeoff. 
 
Transport Minister Nicholas Goche said in a statement Thursday that the Air...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>HARARE, Zimbabwe — Zimbabwe's transport ministry says one of the national airline's planes collided with five wild pigs on the runway in the capital during takeoff.<br />
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Transport Minister Nicholas Goche said in a statement Thursday that the Air Zimbabwe plane was headed from Harare to Bulawayo when the crash occurred Tuesday. All 34 people on board were evacuated safely.<br />
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Goche's statement says the plane was damaged in the crash. The plane's undercarriage collapsed on impact and it veered off the runway, damaging the plane's nose, one engine and the wing.<br />
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Goche did not say what became of the pigs.<br />
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<a href="http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AF_ZIMBABWE_PLANE_HITS_PIGS?SITE=KTVK&amp;SECTION=HOME&amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT" target="_blank">http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...MPLATE=DEFAULT</a></div>

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			<dc:creator>Shumba</dc:creator>
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			<title>SAA flight for a United Premier Exec</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:38:58 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi all, 
 
I'm a United Airlines Premier Exec, and have booked some flights on South African Airways from JFK-JNB on 12/20/09 and JNB-JFK on 1/2/10. 
 
My current seats are in Economy, and I'm wondering if anybody has advice on how best to upgrade...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi all,<br />
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I'm a United Airlines Premier Exec, and have booked some flights on South African Airways from JFK-JNB on 12/20/09 and JNB-JFK on 1/2/10.<br />
<br />
My current seats are in Economy, and I'm wondering if anybody has advice on how best to upgrade these.<br />
<br />
Namely, is there a way to pay for an upgrade, or pay/trade for upgrade certificates, or use my United miles in any way?<br />
<br />
If there's any more info I'm leaving out, please let me know!<br />
<br />
Thanks so much!</div>

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			<dc:creator>notmebutyou</dc:creator>
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			<title>FRA-JNB in F and JNB-WDH in C: which lounge in JNB?</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:42:13 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Well, the title says it all, am I entitled to use the SAA F lounge in JNB if arriving in F (LH) but continuing in C (on SA)? Given what I read about the current status of the business lounge, I wish I could use the F lounge, but is it actually...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Well, the title says it all, am I entitled to use the SAA F lounge in JNB if arriving in F (LH) but continuing in C (on SA)? Given what I read about the current status of the business lounge, I wish I could use the F lounge, but is it actually possible?</div>

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			<dc:creator>Phileas</dc:creator>
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			<title>AUH Terminals</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:27:19 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I have to take a flight in Y on Etihad with a longish layover at AUH. I don't have any status with them and therefore can't use their lounge. 
 
I can see from the Priority Pass website that they have lounges in terminals 1 and 2. Can I get airside...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I have to take a flight in Y on Etihad with a longish layover at AUH. I don't have any status with them and therefore can't use their lounge.<br />
<br />
I can see from the Priority Pass website that they have lounges in terminals 1 and 2. Can I get airside access to either of these terminals from terminal 3? Alternatively, if I am stuck in terminal 3 are there any pay lounges? As a worst case scenario is there a decent bar?<br />
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Thanks for any help.</div>

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			<dc:creator>rhodeswood</dc:creator>
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			<title>Purchase first class and fly business on Etihad</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:07:15 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Etihad Airways promoted business class seats as first class, duping travellers into forking out thousands of dirhams.  
 
The Abu Dhabi-based airline in July this year was advertising what it called "First Special" seats on its Web site. Travellers...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Etihad Airways promoted business class seats as first class, duping travellers into forking out thousands of dirhams. <br />
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The Abu Dhabi-based airline in July this year was advertising what it called &quot;First Special&quot; seats on its Web site. Travellers booked seats on the understanding they were booking first class seats (pictured). Not so, says the airline - they were business class seats that were called &quot;First Special.&quot; <br />
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<a href="http://www.malaysianews.net/story/560542" target="_blank">http://www.malaysianews.net/story/560542</a></div>

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			<dc:creator>Kalboz</dc:creator>
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			<title><![CDATA[Baggage Allowance on BA-GF [booked through TA]]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:00:54 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hi: 
I booked my ticket from a travel agent in Toronto. I am traveling YYZ-LHR on BA and then LHR-BAH-DAC on GF - all in Y.  
 
According to BA website, the free baggage allowance in Y is 1 while my travel agent is telling me that I should be...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi:<br />
I booked my ticket from a travel agent in Toronto. I am traveling YYZ-LHR on BA and then LHR-BAH-DAC on GF - all in Y. <br />
<br />
According to BA website, the free baggage allowance in Y is 1 while my travel agent is telling me that I should be allowed two bags, 23 kg each.<br />
<br />
Can someone confirm this? I called BA/GF. The CSRs were very confused. Gave me to sure answer.<br />
<br />
Also, will I be allowed to take my golfing gear with me? BA's website has specific limits on the dimension of the bag. Of course, my golf gear with a stand bag inside is exceeding those dimensions.</div>

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			<dc:creator>torrento</dc:creator>
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			<title>Turkish Airways: London - JNB</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 01:54:57 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I am looking at taking THY in May from LHR-JNB in Business. Any comments on service, food, Business seats, etc.. Any unusual problems with this airline? How is the lounge in Istanbul 
 
Thanks</description>
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