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			<title>Realistic CDG Transfer Time?</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:47:39 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I recently booked a trip for the family to Spain next September.  I booked my wife and sons tickets using Delta Skymiles while mine was purchased, all on Air France.  The JFK-CGD-MAD itin has a 60 minute layover in CDG.  Even if everything is on...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I recently booked a trip for the family to Spain next September.  I booked my wife and sons tickets using Delta Skymiles while mine was purchased, all on Air France.  The JFK-CGD-MAD itin has a 60 minute layover in CDG.  Even if everything is on time and there are no strikes that day is this realistic?<br />
<br />
Our flight leaves JFK at 7PM; I noticed there are also JFK to CDG flights at 4:30 and 5:45.  I was not aware Air France had that many flights on this route and they do not appear to be Delta code shares.  Will we be able to fly standby to have a better shot of making our connection?</div>

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			<dc:creator>ghia74</dc:creator>
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			<title>Flying Blue or Skymiles?</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:07:58 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I have booked a BKK-TPE return in KLM business class and this will be my first flight with Skyteam. I cannot see me having too many more flights with KLM or Skyteam (including Delta) but it would be a shame to waste any miles from flying. 
 
Which...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I have booked a BKK-TPE return in KLM business class and this will be my first flight with Skyteam. I cannot see me having too many more flights with KLM or Skyteam (including Delta) but it would be a shame to waste any miles from flying.<br />
<br />
Which frequent flyer program would be the best option? Yes I know it is not an easy question but any information would be greatly appreciated. It would appear that Skymiles have more hotel partners so I could top up the account that way.<br />
<br />
P.S I have posted the same question in the Flying Blue forum and was told to post here as well so I hope I am not breaking the cross posting rules....</div>

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			<dc:creator>JohnK</dc:creator>
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			<title>Doable with miles? NYC-BKK / REP-LAS-JFK</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 07:20:49 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[This might be insane (well, I guess not by FT standards ;-) ), but I'm thinking about possibly combining a vacation at the end of December with a need to be in Vegas for CES early January. The vacation would start in Bangkok and end in Siem Reap,...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>This might be insane (well, I guess not by FT standards ;-) ), but I'm thinking about possibly combining a vacation at the end of December with a need to be in Vegas for CES early January. The vacation would start in Bangkok and end in Siem Reap, Cambodia. Goal would be J (or F) for at least all longhaul. I'd be using DL miles.<br />
<br />
My initial thinking is I could go JFK-ICN-BKK and then REP-ICN-LAS on Korean (stopover) - JFK on the way back. LAS-JFK would have to be on Delta.  What I'm not sure about is what kind of award this is since I enter and depart Asia in different cities and need a US stopover on the way back. If needed I could do the award as JFK-BKK / REP-LAS and then get a one way LAS-NYC.<br />
<br />
I'm also guessing that I wouldn't be able to combine a partner (Singapore) outbound with Skyteam inbound? It's almost a rhetorical question except I'm only 99.9% sure this can't be done ;-)<br />
<br />
Failing all that, I'd consider missing LAS altogether. If I was just going NYC-BKK / REP-NYC, do I have significantly better options?<br />
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Thoughts from the Asia routing gurus appreciated :)</div>

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			<dc:creator>daveland</dc:creator>
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			<title>Delta offers 1bilion euros to have Jal in skyteam</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:06:08 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>the article is in italian but the headline says it all 
 
Borsa di Tokyo: il titolo Jal perde il 4% 
Delta offre 1 miliardo di dollari per far cambiare alleanza a Japan Airlines 
I giapponesi passerebbero da Oneworld (British Airways e American...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>the article is in italian but the headline says it all<br />
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<i>Borsa di Tokyo: il titolo Jal perde il 4%<br />
Delta offre 1 miliardo di dollari per far cambiare alleanza a Japan Airlines<br />
I giapponesi passerebbero da Oneworld (British Airways e American Airlines) a SkyTeam con Air France e Alitalia<br />
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(Afp)<br />
(Afp)<br />
TOKYO - Delta e alleati sono pronti a mettere sul piatto 1 miliardo di dollari per far passare Japan Airlines nell'alleanza SkyTeam (di cui fanno parte anche Air France-Klm e Alitalia) e strapparla all'alleanza rivale Oneworld, composta tra gli altri da American Airlines, British Airways e Iberia. Lo schema, in particolare, prevede che Delta e alleati rilevino 500 milioni di dollari di azioni Jal o titoli convertibili, oltre a mettere a disposizione 300 milioni di dollari a copertura del calo delle vendite con il passaggio dal passaggio del vettore nipponico da Oneworld a SkyTeam. In più, ci sono 200 milioni di altri finanziamenti e 20 milioni per sostenere i costi materiali di cambio di alleanza. Delta, che è la compagnia aerea più grande del mondo, ha iniziato a corteggiare Jal nell'imminenza dell'accordo «open skies» tra Usa e Giappone per la liberalizzazione dei viaggi tra i due Paesi.<br />
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PRONTI A INTERVENIRE - American Airlines però non è rimasta con le mani in mani. Insieme al colosso Usa degli investimenti Tpg ha ribadito l'intenzione di intervenire a favore di Jal, in profonda difficoltà finanziaria e gestionale. «Siamo pronti a offrire un valore significativo per la Jal attraverso un rafforzamento del rapporto commerciale, che sarà parte di un piano globale di rilancio, se invitati, benvenuti e ritenuti idonei da Jal e governo nipponico», dice una nota di AA.<br />
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BORSA DI TOKYO - Alla Borsa di Tokyo il titolo Japan Airlines ha perso quasi il 4% dopo aver toccato nel corso della seduta minimi storici da quando fu ri-quotata nel 2002, sulla scia delle dichiarazioni del ministro dei Trasporti giapponese che ha smentito di aver mai detto che un fallimento pilotato per la comagnia aerea era impossibile. Martedì la compagnia ha annunciato perdite pari a 1,5 miliardi di dollari nella prima metà dell'anno fiscale. La Jal ha debiti per 10 miliardi di dollari.<br />
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			<dc:creator>Zazza</dc:creator>
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			<title>IS Delta treating other ST E/E+ as 2nd class passengers?</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:08:27 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hi, 
 
Not sure if this has been addressed.  But I could not find any topic on this (could be in the individual programs).  Anyway, just came off a flight with Delta and I can tell you I am really shocked beyond means to how non-Medallion members...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi,<br />
<br />
Not sure if this has been addressed.  But I could not find any topic on this (could be in the individual programs).  Anyway, just came off a flight with Delta and I can tell you I am really shocked beyond means to how non-Medallion members but ST E/E+ are treated (the last time I flew them was April this year).  Main complains:<br />
<br />
1) No Priority Luggage tag for E+ member flying international <br />
    Reason:  This is ONLY for Business Elite passengers.  IF your luggage tag is not automatically printed with Priority on it, you don't get a tag.  Not sure when did ST E+ benefit changed :confused:<br />
<br />
2) If you fly domestic with no international connection, you pay the checked in baggage fees.<br />
    Reason:  Only Medallion members gets the exception<br />
<br />
3) If you fly international, only 1 checked in bag is free, 2nd bag please pay 50 USD!<br />
    Reason:  Only Medallion and BE passenger get 2nd bag for free.<br />
<br />
4) At airports with Priority lane, ST E/E+ members are not allowed to use them.<br />
    Reason: Again only medallion and First class passengers have access.<br />
<br />
5) Greetings in the plane, not even any general recognition of ST E/E+ members.  Only the business of Medallions are appreciated.<br />
<br />
These are some the main items which makes me as a current double E+ member with 2 different ST carrier feel like a 2nd class citizen.  I can already see one or 2 rules for general benefit systemwide for ST not being honored.  <br />
<br />
This is such a sad situation and I am sorry to say that Delta has totally lost my business.  I can understand the whole economic excuse situation, but I do not see AA nor UA treating their partner's Elite members with such degradation.  This is such a poor way to go.<br />
<br />
I will certainly be giving more of my business to the other alliances.  Will also certainly write to both AF/KLM and Czech to voice my dissatisfaction, though I know little will happen.<br />
<br />
Such a pity that Delta has lowered itself to such a level.<br />
<br />
Cheers!<br />
<br />
:)</div>

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			<dc:creator>nldogbert</dc:creator>
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			<title>NW vs AF: Transatlantic Economy Product</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:50:25 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I am going to be flying BOS --> EDI soon. I have two options that make sense pricewise: 
The first is BOS -->AMS on an NW A330 with a KLM connection to EDI. The second is BOS -->CDG on an AF A340, connecting onto EDI. Both flights would be in...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I am going to be flying BOS --&gt; EDI soon. I have two options that make sense pricewise:<br />
The first is BOS --&gt;AMS on an NW A330 with a KLM connection to EDI. The second is BOS --&gt;CDG on an AF A340, connecting onto EDI. Both flights would be in economy. <br />
<br />
The most important aspect for me at is legroom as I am 6-2 and I generally start to lose feeling in my lower half by about midpoint on the TransAtlantic crossing when I fly on an AA 767 BOS--&gt; LHR, my usual journey. <br />
<br />
Secondly, personal seat entertainment would be a big plus so I don't have to squint at my iPhone, fire up a laptop or squint at a small screen 10 rows suspended from the ceiling playing some awful B movie.<br />
<br />
Finally, I wouldn't mind some edible food in economy. I am not expecting a miracle, just something a little different than shoe leather beef and chewy chicken.<br />
<br />
I would appreciate any thoughts on these two economy products as well as any pros/cons about connecting at either Schipol or CDG.</div>

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			<dc:creator>EstimatedEyes</dc:creator>
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			<title>FF Difference? KE or DL</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:18:34 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I'm planning on taking a trip to LAX-SGN on Korea Air. I know Delta and Korea Air are part of Star Team so either way I'll some mileage for FF out of this trip if I provide one FF membership number, right? So I'm wondering if the experts can chime...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I'm planning on taking a trip to LAX-SGN on Korea Air. I know Delta and Korea Air are part of Star Team so either way I'll some mileage for FF out of this trip if I provide one FF membership number, right? So I'm wondering if the experts can chime in whether it's better to get a FF on KE or DL? I don't fly either one very often. Most of my trips are MHT (manchester, nh) to lax area.<br />
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<br />
Thanks in advance.</div>

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			<dc:creator>mugen910</dc:creator>
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			<title>Question about upgrades</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:47:30 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi folks, 
 
I just recently became a Delta Silver Medallion member and was curious about an upcoming flight. 
 
Northwest LHR-SFO on 11/17 with a connection through DTW. It's my understanding that I can upgrade on domestic flights 1 day in advance...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi folks,<br />
<br />
I just recently became a Delta Silver Medallion member and was curious about an upcoming flight.<br />
<br />
Northwest LHR-SFO on 11/17 with a connection through DTW. It's my understanding that I can upgrade on domestic flights 1 day in advance if there are vacancies if I've read the documentation correctly. Am I in a position to upgrade the DTW-SFO flight even though it's technically booked as LHR-SFO? It's a T Coach fare if that matters.<br />
<br />
Am I also allowed to priority board or that reserved for business class?<br />
<br />
Thanks,<br />
PJ<br />
<br />
edit: I've honestly looked through delta's site for answers, but I find it a bit confusing making sense of what Medallion gets you.</div>

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			<dc:creator>pjhyett</dc:creator>
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			<title>Aeroflot Seating: JFK To SVO Then KUF</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:18:50 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Attending wedding for my brother in early December; booked Aeroflot to get DL Skymiles. Under my DL Skymiles itin it shows flight confirmed but no seats assigned. . .any ideas? Called Aeroflot toll-free; rang off the hook 
 
Thanks in advance for...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Attending wedding for my brother in early December; booked Aeroflot to get DL Skymiles. Under my DL Skymiles itin it shows flight confirmed but no seats assigned. . .any ideas? Called Aeroflot toll-free; rang off the hook<br />
<br />
Thanks in advance for whatever you may suggest. . .</div>

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			<dc:creator>roadworrier</dc:creator>
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			<title>Aeroflot online booking and passport Information</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:39:07 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hi, 
So I am booking a flight on Aeroflot.com from Moscow to Shanghai Russia. I am a dual US and Serbian citizen and will enter Russia using my Serbian passport as I do not require a visa with it.  
 
Flying out of Moscow I will be flying on my US...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi,<br />
So I am booking a flight on Aeroflot.com from Moscow to Shanghai Russia. I am a dual US and Serbian citizen and will enter Russia using my Serbian passport as I do not require a visa with it. <br />
<br />
Flying out of Moscow I will be flying on my US passport as the Chinese visa is in my US passport. When booking on aeroflot.com it asks for detail passport information. Is it all right to enter US passport info here even though I'll be going through customs (out of the country) using a Serbian passport?<br />
<br />
Thanks!</div>

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			<dc:creator>pred02</dc:creator>
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			<title>Can you select a seat on code share DL/AF flight?</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:01:58 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Given my experience this week, apparently not. I had booked with Delta BOS - CDG. AF had no record of my reservation nor seat request. They told me their computers cannot talk to Delta's. The aisle seat DL had confirmed months ago was not available...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Given my experience this week, apparently not. I had booked with Delta BOS - CDG. AF had no record of my reservation nor seat request. They told me their computers cannot talk to Delta's. The aisle seat DL had confirmed months ago was not available and AF stuck me deep in the middle of a row. Also was told that if AF is forced to bump someone, DL ticket holders are selected first. <br />
Is this the norm with code sharing?</div>

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			<dc:creator>minotlight</dc:creator>
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			<title><![CDATA[SVO Aeroflot & Skyteam Terminal 3 update?]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:47:26 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Dear Readers,  
 
After searching different forums couldn't really find any update of the new terminal.  
 
Does any one have any update of the progress?  
Is it already opened? or will it be open by Jan 2010? 
I read "the plans" that was posted on...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Dear Readers, <br />
<br />
After searching different forums couldn't really find any update of the new terminal. <br />
<br />
Does any one have any update of the progress? <br />
Is it already opened? or will it be open by Jan 2010?<br />
I read &quot;the plans&quot; that was posted on skyteam.com but not sure if it's updated.  <br />
<br />
Thinking of trying Aeroflot for a trip to Asia in Jan, but I will have 6 hours transfer time and hoping that Terminal 3 will be open. <br />
I've read many bad experience about Terminal 2. <br />
<br />
Good day! :)</div>

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			<dc:creator>luvintheair</dc:creator>
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			<title><![CDATA[Vietnam Airlines & Tarom Joining in June!]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:59:00 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Vietnam Airlines & Tarom are expected to join SkyTeam in June next year! :D 
 
Wow VN only took 1 yr to join! This would help promote tourism in SE Asia and puch SGN & HAN to be major HUBs! 
 
Vietnam Airlines to join SkyTeam alliance in June 
...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Vietnam Airlines &amp; Tarom are expected to join SkyTeam in June next year! :D<br />
<br />
Wow VN only took 1 yr to join! This would help promote tourism in SE Asia and puch SGN &amp; HAN to be major HUBs!<br />
<br />
<font color="RoyalBlue"><font size="4">Vietnam Airlines to join SkyTeam alliance in June</font></font><br />
<br />
Vietnam Airlines Corp., the country’s state-owned carrier, and Romanian carrier Tarom SA will join the SkyTeam alliance in June as the group expands its operations in Southeast Asia and Eastern Europe.  <br />
<br />
<br />
The governing board of SkyTeam made the decision Thursday in a meeting held in Incheon, South Korea, Korean Air Lines Co., the country’s biggest airline and a SkyTeam member, said in an e-mailed statement Thursday.<br />
<br />
Joining the alliance will help Vietnam Air and Tarom expand their networks, boost sales and cut operating costs through cooperation with other group members. SkyTeam comprises 11 airlines at present including Delta Air Lines Inc. and China Southern Airlines Co.<br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.thanhniennews.com/travel/?catid=7&amp;newsid=53483" target="_blank">http://www.thanhniennews.com/travel/...7&amp;newsid=53483</a></div>

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			<dc:creator>soorox</dc:creator>
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			<title>KE = best option for F awards?</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:57:36 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>(on all skyteam / partners) 
 
IIRC US skyteam dont do it (except SQ via DL) 
 
IIRC AF made changes to booking their own F</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>(on all skyteam / partners)<br />
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IIRC US skyteam dont do it (except SQ via DL)<br />
<br />
IIRC AF made changes to booking their own F</div>

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			<dc:creator>Kagehitokiri</dc:creator>
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			<title>Which FF plan to enroll?</title>
			<link>http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/skyteam/1010043-ff-plan-enroll.html</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:09:27 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Please help this friend of mine choose a plan: 
 
* HKG based 
* Upcoming trip (Nov-Dec): AF HKG-CDG-HKG (Economy-L) 
* Likely trip summer 2010: Likely DL HKG-ATL-LAX-HKG (Restricted economy) 
 
On "face value" these trips would get her close to a...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Please help this friend of mine choose a plan:<br />
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* HKG based<br />
* Upcoming trip (Nov-Dec): AF HKG-CDG-HKG (Economy-L)<br />
* Likely trip summer 2010: Likely DL HKG-ATL-LAX-HKG (Restricted economy)<br />
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On &quot;face value&quot; these trips would get her close to a 20k-25k award, but AF/FB would give only 50% on L and less than 100% on DL.  Meanwhile, DL/SM would give 100% for most any DL fares, but for L on AF it's 0%!  Are there other ST FF plan that would give better overall miles?</div>

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