http://www.flyertalk.com/forum en Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:49:11 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/images/misc/rss.jpg http://www.flyertalk.com/forum http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-france-frequence-plus/1019169-russia-negotiating-w-france-over-a380-overflights.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:47:29 GMT Apparently, AF may encounter delays in using the A380 on its routes to Asia (NRT is expected to start in early summer). Russia needs to authorize overflights of Siberia to planes carrying over 500 pax, and seems to be dragging its feet, asking for... Apparently, AF may encounter delays in using the A380 on its routes to Asia (NRT is expected to start in early summer). Russia needs to authorize overflights of Siberia to planes carrying over 500 pax, and seems to be dragging its feet, asking for compensation in return, in the way of more slots for Aeroflot passenger/cargo flights to France.

Le Monde has the story here.

A video interview of Dominique Bussereau, french transportation minister, in Moscow yesterday, is there.

AF vs. Aeroflot. That next Skyteam board meeting is gonna be a hoot :-) ]]> Air France Frequence Plus cingrand http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-france-frequence-plus/1019169-russia-negotiating-w-france-over-a380-overflights.html http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-france-frequence-plus/1018316-best-seat-af-a380-paris-jfk-voyageur-y.html Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:07:50 GMT Hi,

I booked two tickets for CDG - JFK on A380 with AF.

I checked the forem and seatguru but hard to find which seats are better ?

I Guess upper deck at the end to have only 2 seats ?

I'am FB Silver status.

Thanks for advices .... ]]> Air France Frequence Plus EricGran http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-france-frequence-plus/1018316-best-seat-af-a380-paris-jfk-voyageur-y.html http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-france-frequence-plus/1018254-cdg-sfo-lax-a340-vs-777-a.html Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:47:35 GMT Hi, I am flying hopefully from London to Reno, Nevada on Air France via paris. I have a choice to fly CDG-SFO on an A340...or CDG-LAX on a 777....does anyone know which flight is better? I will be in economy? Which is the newer plane? Which... Hi,

I am flying hopefully from London to Reno, Nevada on Air France via paris. I have a choice to fly CDG-SFO on an A340...or CDG-LAX on a 777....does anyone know which flight is better? I will be in economy? Which is the newer plane? Which flight is 'nicer'....

Josh ]]> Air France Frequence Plus jokron http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-france-frequence-plus/1018254-cdg-sfo-lax-a340-vs-777-a.html http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-france-frequence-plus/1018156-lounge-access-traveling-companions.html Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:17:07 GMT My partner and I are traveling AF Biz from SEA-CDG-CAI. These are award tickets using AS miles. We are flying with another couple who are flying economy.( paid) Can we bring them into the various lounges along our route as guests? My partner and I are traveling AF Biz from SEA-CDG-CAI. These are award tickets using AS miles.

We are flying with another couple who are flying economy.( paid)

Can we bring them into the various lounges along our route as guests? ]]> Air France Frequence Plus david4455 http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-france-frequence-plus/1018156-lounge-access-traveling-companions.html http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-france-frequence-plus/1017798-how-do-i-find-my-aircraft.html Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:36:37 GMT CDG->VIE, my e-ticket just has the flight numbers (the first leg is on AF 191). How do I find my aircraft type? Will I get super cramped seats ? It says my fare basis is NXIAEULC]]> I'm flying BLR -> CDG->VIE, my e-ticket just has the flight numbers (the first leg is on AF 191). How do I find my aircraft type?

Will I get super cramped seats ? It says my fare basis is NXIAEULC ]]> Air France Frequence Plus skullcandy http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-france-frequence-plus/1017798-how-do-i-find-my-aircraft.html http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-france-frequence-plus/1017776-how-air-france-terms-baggage.html Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:42:38 GMT CDG -> VIE, I made a mistake of going through a travel agent; otherwise I would have chosen Lufthansa. I'm now mainly concerned about baggage, how anal are they about it ? I'm not going to be way over limit, but will they jump...]]> I'm flying BLR -> CDG -> VIE, I made a mistake of going through a travel agent; otherwise I would have chosen Lufthansa.

I'm now mainly concerned about baggage, how anal are they about it ? I'm not going to be way over limit, but will they jump around if I"m over the 20kg limit by 1-2 kilos ?

Also, I'm planning on having 1 piece of carry on baggage (my backpack) + my laptop in its own laptop bag measuring 47cmx34cmx12xm. Will this be a problem ?


I've flown by Lufthansa in the past with the laptop bag+backpack and there havent been any problems. I'm now just a bit apprehensive about AF. ]]> Air France Frequence Plus skullcandy http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-france-frequence-plus/1017776-how-air-france-terms-baggage.html http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-france-frequence-plus/1017370-cdg-2e-lounge.html Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:57:58 GMT I was in the AF CDG 2E Lounge yesterday and there was no food available at 13:30. About 45 min later yoghurts and the most boring (again usual) flat bread with grilled vegetables were on offer. I did find one little plastic cup with coleslaw, 2 dry... I was in the AF CDG 2E Lounge yesterday and there was no food available at 13:30. About 45 min later yoghurts and the most boring (again usual) flat bread with grilled vegetables were on offer. I did find one little plastic cup with coleslaw, 2 dry slices of olive/Turkey (actually Turkey Hen as per the description card) but no bread as someone nicked the last 3 slices just in front of my nose :( I was quite hungry but was scared to ask for more...

One elderly gentleman did bring this forward to one of the dragons, but I could see when she came in she didn't look very interested in his request / complaint nor did she seem to do anything about it. Standing with her arms crossed starring at the East German supermarket shelf look-alike (i.e. empty) shelves.

No offence to my fantastic French fellow FT'ers, but I find crisps from France (and even southern Europe as well) quite greasy compared to crisps from the Isles in the North West of Europe, so I wouldn't be able to eat large amounts of these to fulfil my hunger.

So what I really wanted to know was: Is there a time table/schedule of when different types of food are available and what types are served at the different lounges at CDG?

Cheerio ]]> Air France Frequence Plus Cupart http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-france-frequence-plus/1017370-cdg-2e-lounge.html http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-france-frequence-plus/1017351-ouch-i-didnt-know-so-bad.html Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:09:43 GMT I was aware of the widespread opinion that Air France 10-seats-in-a-row on the B777 is not particularly appreciated by most passangers. Today I had my first ever flight in such a seat, luckily it was on the shortest flight in the B777 network,... I was aware of the widespread opinion that Air France 10-seats-in-a-row on the B777 is not particularly appreciated by most passangers.

Today I had my first ever flight in such a seat, luckily it was on the shortest flight in the B777 network, from CDG to BEY.

Man, those seats are really narrow! I didn't fit in. Sure, I am tall (1m 88cm), but not fat or anything. Still, I didn't fit in. Since legroom was so small I had to spread my legs, which meant that I didn't fit into the confines of my two armrests. The flight wasn't full, so I had a free neighbouring seat which sort of saved me. Thank God my return flight tomorrow is in C again...

Other than that it was the typical AF/ADP experience, everything ran as expected:

The ^ points

• Staff at CKI and crew on board super friendly, courteous, professional, like 99% of AF cabin crews are
• Good selection of movies on the IFE

Similarly the :td: points also met my expectations

• Silly CKI deadline: 60 mins before departure
• No possibility to circumvent this as there is no printing of BPs for this flight, just the "confirmation"
• Even for that one first has to research one's ticket number, FFP number didn't work, nor reservation #
• Boarding started 50 mins before departure, they created a real sense of stress and urgency 30 minutes before departure ("the flight is closing, we'll remove you from the flight") - but let people through until 5 minutes before departure.
• Bus departure (OK, that's life, not complaining about that) but complete inability to get busses organized. One bus was full, but stood there for 20 minutes. Then, at departure time, he was told to leave, leaving about 25 people (including me) behind. We then had to wait another 20 minutes on the staircase in the wind and cold (and I got myself a bronchitis) for another bus to turn up. Bus driver then got lost on the way to the "Parking Hotel". We boarded 30 minutes after departure
• Another delay of about 20 minutes because the catering people had done an error
• During the flight, the IFE stopped working properly after about 2.5 hours

But as I said, nothing dramatic, that's the kind of expectation I have of an AF flight: I get where I want in sort of relative comfort, but plenty of small organizational/logistical hiccups that delay things. Not bad enough for me to completely avoid them and waste my time on a transfer elsewhere instead of this nonstop flight (although for almost any flight longer than this to Asia or the Americas this is what I do).

Going through my list of recent flights now, some good, some bad, and then update my signature. Not sure we're going over the 45% mark. Which is lousy if you think of it, isn't it?

But those seats (which are the motivation for this post) - Gee, I can understand why people rant about them. Never again, not for me or not before I turn into a dwarf or pygmy. ]]> Air France Frequence Plus creber http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-france-frequence-plus/1017351-ouch-i-didnt-know-so-bad.html http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-france-frequence-plus/1017248-flyer-taking-af-777-c.html Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:07:32 GMT I checked airliners and seatguru and did a quick search. I am on AF07 JFK - CDG (777-300ER). I may standby for the earlier flight AF23 (777-200). Can confirm two things? 1) Business class seats look to be the same for both plane types ... I checked airliners and seatguru and did a quick search.

I am on AF07 JFK - CDG (777-300ER). I may standby for the earlier flight AF23 (777-200).

Can confirm two things?

1) Business class seats look to be the same for both plane types

2) The seats are lie-flat angled

Thanks much. ]]> Air France Frequence Plus chichow http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-france-frequence-plus/1017248-flyer-taking-af-777-c.html http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-france-frequence-plus/1017131-booking-classes-help.html Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:20:19 GMT Hello FT friends,

I am trying to book some AF tickets online and try to avoid 25% or 50% miles deduction, is there anyway to make sure to gain higher percentage of miles? It seems impossible on AF's website, any other websites can do that? (In France or other EU countries?)

Many thanks,

Erik ]]> Air France Frequence Plus youfly http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-france-frequence-plus/1017131-booking-classes-help.html http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-france-frequence-plus/1016605-odd-bug-line-reservation-confirmation.html Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:47:29 GMT I just booked a RT award ticket using AS miles from SEA-CAI for next October.

I checked immediately after making the reservation this morning on the AF website and all four flights showed "confirmed" with all 4 seat assignments

This afternoon when I went onto the AF website and put in my AF Confirmation # the reservation came up but shows my outbound flight status as "flown" even though the flight date is correct for an October 2010 departure. Because of that the seat assignments are gone.

The return still shows a "confirmed" status and shows my seat assignments.



I called AF and they said it was bug and not to worry.....

Should I pursue them to "clean up" the reservation ....it is a little unsettling to see the word "flown" on a reservation for next year.

BTW: When I plug my confirmation # into the amadeus website checkmytrip.com it comes up correct including the seat assignments. ]]> Air France Frequence Plus david4455 http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-france-frequence-plus/1016605-odd-bug-line-reservation-confirmation.html http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-france-frequence-plus/1016447-new-european-travel-concept-april-2010-a.html Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:26:34 GMT I just downloaded the powerpoint from the press conference. this was announced to us partly on our recent meeting with air france on tuesday. it looks like this will be introduced for april 2010. Air France responds with two european offers, two... I just downloaded the powerpoint from the press conference. this was announced to us partly on our recent meeting with air france on tuesday. it looks like this will be introduced for april 2010.

Air France responds with two european offers, two highly differentiated products:


Voyageur

possibility to “freeze” fare for one week thanks to the ‘Time To Think’ option and save the price for 10€

seat assigned at time of booking

no more boarding pass needed - you are automatically checked in and you'll get the BP mailed.

snacks and beverages offered for free

23kg luggage for free

oneway fares available


Premium


Premium Eco and Premium Affaires

all of the above +

free blocked seat guaranteed

priority boarding


more details in the ppt-presentation. ]]> Air France Frequence Plus chrissxb http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-france-frequence-plus/1016447-new-european-travel-concept-april-2010-a.html http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-france-frequence-plus/1016257-lounge-cmn-casablanca.html Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:05:48 GMT Hey guys
I'm going to CMN in december and was wondering what kind of lounge AF was using there ? There's nothing listed on AF or Skyteam web sites so I suppose it's an airport lounge or the AT lounge ? How nice is it ?
Thanks:)
Goldorak ]]> Air France Frequence Plus Goldorak http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-france-frequence-plus/1016257-lounge-cmn-casablanca.html http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-france-frequence-plus/1016187-lespace-127-still-alive.html Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:14:39 GMT check here (in french, but most important is the picture...)
In the left corner, you can see a picture where it seems there is only § seats in l'Espace 127... very strange :confused::confused::confused:)
http://clicanoo.com/index.php?id_art...4&page=article ]]> Air France Frequence Plus AF680 http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-france-frequence-plus/1016187-lespace-127-still-alive.html http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-france-frequence-plus/1016153-24-hour-layover-cdg-what-happens-bag.html Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:46:45 GMT For an upcoming delta ticketed but AF operated flight, i have booked some friends on, there is a 23 hour layover at cdg. They are very happy about this to have the chance to explore Paris for a day.

I've actually never checked bags on a TATL trip that had a stop before the final destination so i'm not at all familiar with how checked baggage is handled *in general* on routing connection points, much less in this sort of circumstance. Are bags typically checked to your final destination, or do you have to collect them and go through security again so they can be checked into your final destination? Does the answer depend on whether the connection point in europe is in a different country that the flight origination city in europe? And in a case like this with a long layover, will there be any changes to the normal way of routing luggage on TATL flights with connection points? ]]> Air France Frequence Plus jenniparks http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-france-frequence-plus/1016153-24-hour-layover-cdg-what-happens-bag.html