Canarsie

Those photographs also are linked back to the trip reports you voluntarily posted on FlyerTalk specifically to drive more traffic to your trip reports; and because that weblog resides on FlyerTalk, the extension of that license of use was implied. Additionally, credit was clearly applied to you as the photographer.

It would be a different story if the weblog was external from FlyerTalk and your photographs were used without your consent or accreditation.

Still — as a photographer myself — I agree with you that photographs should not be used without being granted permission by the owner of those photographs.

LPDAL

No, no -- my point was that they were using my photos in the right way. They can use them all they want, as long as they follow the terms below. In fact, I was delighted to see my photos featured in a blog post (even if one was about dog poop ).

EDIT:

The Creative Commons license I applied to the photos on my Flickr account may be used by anyone if all of the conditions below are met:

1) No derivatives, derivative works, or any other derivative use -- self explanatory.

2) No Commercial use: The photos are not used for commercial purpose no matter the intent. The photos also may not be profited on, or used to that extent, under any circumstances.

3) Attribution: The photos must be attributed to me as the other. *

*Obviously, this does not apply to screenshots or scans on my Flickr page that were not taken or created by me, such as historical antique photographs, screengrabs of airline websites, or aeronautical charts, etc. However, the 17 photos stolen were all pictures that I took with my own cameras, not any of the examples I just listed.

-LPDAL

dimramon

And why do you post those on your Flickr page, if you know that the guidelines state you shouldn't?

I know I have asked this before, but I assume you are ignoring the statement since it doesn't fit your agenda. I would just like to understand how this works.

sbm12

The most recent post on PMM about JetBlue's FlyFi is a straight up hack job, copying 300+ words straight from another source.

kokonutz

BOOOOOO!!!!

84fiero

Man that's the most blatant abuse I've seen lately. PMM rarely if ever has anything original to post in the first place. How does Boarding Area let drivel like PMM stick around?

(Your actual review of the product a few days ago was very informative.)

Richklhs

Did you reach out to PMM and get any response?

84fiero

There were comments on the PMM post calling them out on it...now the comments have been deleted. The blog post had a link to the USA Today article which is now replaced by a link to the B6 press release. I think the text of the post is now portions of the press release rather than the USA Today article but I don't have time to look up the article at the moment to compare.

sbm12

Correct on all counts. I have PDF copies of the originals showing the different text (i.e. RWV content) in the body from the original.

LPDAL

I'm surprised none of the major newspapers have taken copyright action against blogs who blatantly steal paragraphs of articles. This could land them in some serious doo-doo.

What is the point of stealing, anyhow? The readers of these blogs look to the writers to guide them in the direction of "cheap" and "free" travel via credit card points, so to that end, they expect that the writer named at the top of the article is the one, you know, writing the article, not copying it off of a major newspaper.

-LPDAL

bthotugigem05

I don't think people care, nor do they typically notice, who writes the information, as long as they get the information they want (rightly or wrongly).

LPDAL

I'm talking about it from the perspective of the companies -- of course they care about their articles being stolen, half, whole, or whatever portion. I'm pretty sure USA Today's Legal Eagles would not take a high view of their articles being stolen / copy - and - pasted onto a major points blog.

Even from the perspective of the reader it is unscrupulous! How can one write an article, for instance, on tourist attractions in China yet has never been to Asia themselves? It is NOT mentioned anywhere that these "authors" oftentimes writing about subjects they've never even been to or experienced in any way which is highly dishonest!

How could they? Newbies look up to these bloggers! I know it's all about the money in the end, but come on.

-LPDAL

Canarsie

Here is the official policy of posting copyrighted material on FlyerTalk:

I am not a lawyer; but I would think that a similar policy would apply to other repositories of content posted on the Internet.

When viewing articles which are the source of content, paid advertising — more often than not — accompanies those articles in various forms. While the outright plagiarism of articles is indeed frowned upon, I would think that citing anywhere from a sentence to a paragraph — accompanied by proper accreditation and a link to the source — of the article would typically be welcomed by the creator of the original source in terms of increased readership, which could lead to more revenue from the clicks in terms of advertising.

Of course, a simple note or e-mail message to the creator of the source of information requesting official permission takes only moments of one’s time — and the response is usually in the affirmative.

sbm12

Unfortunately the cost to pursue is typically far greater than the damages caused. That's why they do not aggressively pursue such.

sbm12

The "Fair Use Doctrine" covers this and, for better or worse, the courts have been less than spectacular about coming up with a perfect definition, much like obscenity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use

And regardless of what you think about FT standards/rules, using them as a measure for what someone should publish on a blog versus a message board is a bad move IMO.