View from the Wing [VFTW] discussions
#331
Join Date: Aug 2010
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#333
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Oh, there is plenty to talk about. Its seems all this click baiting has led to a increase in page views, but ad revenue seems to be in trouble. @:-)
#334
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Speaking of, my contempt for Gary grows larger by the day. I can live with a clickbating post. He's a capitalist, he's trying to make money. I really don't have heartburn about that.
But this was an irresponsible post--and I would agree that normal standards of journalism don't apply to blog posts, which I view as statements of personal opinion. I'm sure Gary would defend his post in that way, but I expect a "thought leader" and "one of the foremost experts in the field of miles, points, and frequent business traveler" [or maybe "frequent business travel"--hey, nice proofreading of your own bio, GTL] to have a slightly more refined, responsible opinion--not something any fool with a tin foil hat could post on the internet.
#335
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Now excuse me while I go prepare a post about how many millions of miles I have earned, albeit not in a single program, boo!
When nothing to write, rest assured a post about bad TSA is right around the corner...
#336
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Did somebody say bad TSA? Is it time to Buzz again?
#337
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For further confirmation that this thread is followed, check my comment about GTL's bio in post #334--and his revised bio. Of course, not corrected in both places he made the mistake. We'll see how many days pass before that mistake is corrected. . .
#338
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If you look, they aometimes forget to log out and show as present in the forum. @:-)
#339
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If you click on gleff's profile it doesn't say when his last activity was. I would imagine Gary doesn't like people knowing he is checking out the competition.
#340
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Nice to see View from the Cookie is back!
It made me chuckle that VFTC is mocking others' typos.
http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea....ndal/#comments
It made me chuckle that VFTC is mocking others' typos.
http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea....ndal/#comments
#341
#342
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It made me chuckle that VFTC is mocking others' typos.
http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea....ndal/#comments
http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea....ndal/#comments
#343
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GTL's post about Amex yesterday again highlights his analytical shortcomings. A stock analyst saying that Amex is losing the rewards game and therefore may face losses is not the same thing as arguing which rewards program is the most valuable (and yes, before we get there, I know that's click bait and probably Gary's smarter than that but twists the comparison to get his clicks). But then, even when he's on ground that seems more secure for him, he then muddles the issue with Starpoints--yes Amex runs the card; no Amex does not run the program--and an unwillingness to concede the obvious weakening of the MR program over the last several years with the loss of Continental as a transfer partner to the merger with UA, Delta's limitation, albeit mild, of transfers from MR to DL, and the recent announcement that BA transfers from MR will go from 1:1 to 250:200.
Of course, he conveniently ignores his own harping upon the SkyMiles program ("Hey, did you know that I'm the one who coined the term SkyPesos? Probably on one of my many appearances on CBS, ABC, Fox, CNN as a thought leader in travel. And yeah, I've been softpedaling that term for awhile while pushing affiliate links for DL cards."), BA for any use other than domestic short-haul connections, and UR as the most valuable rewards currency.
The potential issue missed to my mind is where does Amex go from here? Amex has already made some moves in directions away from emphasizing MR transfers as a feature of the program. As spectacularly bad a value as many of us might think using MR for purchases at McDonald's might be, Amex has shifted some focus away from straight transfers to emphasizing MR as another form of currency. Benefits like Boingo wifi and the airline credit for the Platinum card along with developing cards with multiple category bonuses show that Amex, while retaining a focus on MR, has realized that they'd better catch up to the competition.
I'd think the next horizon is rental car insurance. Chase and Citi (and by extension, MC and Visa) now offer more cards with an obvious primary rental car coverage versus the secondary offered with some cards, with the supplemental purchase of primary insurance available. I personally believe the Amex benefit is the best--I've had two occasions to use it, and the process has pretty much not required much input from me as compared with some of the stories I see in some threads here at FT about experiences with other cards. But the point is not which is the objectively best rental car coverage--it's what the public perceives that to be. I tend to think Amex is going to have to consider offering primary coverage with no added cost through several of their cards to compete, especially since MR has lost some of its luster.
No way Amex drops MR--not with Citi continuing to do hit or miss with TY Points--but I think Amex wouldn't mind redefining the issue since MR no longer has a clear edge over Chase and Citi in this regard. So yes, to a certain extent GTL wouldn't acknowledge, Amex is losing the rewards war.
Of course, he conveniently ignores his own harping upon the SkyMiles program ("Hey, did you know that I'm the one who coined the term SkyPesos? Probably on one of my many appearances on CBS, ABC, Fox, CNN as a thought leader in travel. And yeah, I've been softpedaling that term for awhile while pushing affiliate links for DL cards."), BA for any use other than domestic short-haul connections, and UR as the most valuable rewards currency.
The potential issue missed to my mind is where does Amex go from here? Amex has already made some moves in directions away from emphasizing MR transfers as a feature of the program. As spectacularly bad a value as many of us might think using MR for purchases at McDonald's might be, Amex has shifted some focus away from straight transfers to emphasizing MR as another form of currency. Benefits like Boingo wifi and the airline credit for the Platinum card along with developing cards with multiple category bonuses show that Amex, while retaining a focus on MR, has realized that they'd better catch up to the competition.
I'd think the next horizon is rental car insurance. Chase and Citi (and by extension, MC and Visa) now offer more cards with an obvious primary rental car coverage versus the secondary offered with some cards, with the supplemental purchase of primary insurance available. I personally believe the Amex benefit is the best--I've had two occasions to use it, and the process has pretty much not required much input from me as compared with some of the stories I see in some threads here at FT about experiences with other cards. But the point is not which is the objectively best rental car coverage--it's what the public perceives that to be. I tend to think Amex is going to have to consider offering primary coverage with no added cost through several of their cards to compete, especially since MR has lost some of its luster.
No way Amex drops MR--not with Citi continuing to do hit or miss with TY Points--but I think Amex wouldn't mind redefining the issue since MR no longer has a clear edge over Chase and Citi in this regard. So yes, to a certain extent GTL wouldn't acknowledge, Amex is losing the rewards war.
#344
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GTL's post about Amex yesterday again highlights his analytical shortcomings. A stock analyst saying that Amex is losing the rewards game and therefore may face losses is not the same thing as arguing which rewards program is the most valuable (and yes, before we get there, I know that's click bait and probably Gary's smarter than that but twists the comparison to get his clicks). But then, even when he's on ground that seems more secure for him, he then muddles the issue with Starpoints--yes Amex runs the card; no Amex does not run the program--and an unwillingness to concede the obvious weakening of the MR program over the last several years with the loss of Continental as a transfer partner to the merger with UA, Delta's limitation, albeit mild, of transfers from MR to DL, and the recent announcement that BA transfers from MR will go from 1:1 to 250:200.
Of course, he conveniently ignores his own harping upon the SkyMiles program ("Hey, did you know that I'm the one who coined the term SkyPesos? Probably on one of my many appearances on CBS, ABC, Fox, CNN as a thought leader in travel. And yeah, I've been softpedaling that term for awhile while pushing affiliate links for DL cards."), BA for any use other than domestic short-haul connections, and UR as the most valuable rewards currency.
The potential issue missed to my mind is where does Amex go from here? Amex has already made some moves in directions away from emphasizing MR transfers as a feature of the program. As spectacularly bad a value as many of us might think using MR for purchases at McDonald's might be, Amex has shifted some focus away from straight transfers to emphasizing MR as another form of currency. Benefits like Boingo wifi and the airline credit for the Platinum card along with developing cards with multiple category bonuses show that Amex, while retaining a focus on MR, has realized that they'd better catch up to the competition.
I'd think the next horizon is rental car insurance. Chase and Citi (and by extension, MC and Visa) now offer more cards with an obvious primary rental car coverage versus the secondary offered with some cards, with the supplemental purchase of primary insurance available. I personally believe the Amex benefit is the best--I've had two occasions to use it, and the process has pretty much not required much input from me as compared with some of the stories I see in some threads here at FT about experiences with other cards. But the point is not which is the objectively best rental car coverage--it's what the public perceives that to be. I tend to think Amex is going to have to consider offering primary coverage with no added cost through several of their cards to compete, especially since MR has lost some of its luster.
No way Amex drops MR--not with Citi continuing to do hit or miss with TY Points--but I think Amex wouldn't mind redefining the issue since MR no longer has a clear edge over Chase and Citi in this regard. So yes, to a certain extent GTL wouldn't acknowledge, Amex is losing the rewards war.
Of course, he conveniently ignores his own harping upon the SkyMiles program ("Hey, did you know that I'm the one who coined the term SkyPesos? Probably on one of my many appearances on CBS, ABC, Fox, CNN as a thought leader in travel. And yeah, I've been softpedaling that term for awhile while pushing affiliate links for DL cards."), BA for any use other than domestic short-haul connections, and UR as the most valuable rewards currency.
The potential issue missed to my mind is where does Amex go from here? Amex has already made some moves in directions away from emphasizing MR transfers as a feature of the program. As spectacularly bad a value as many of us might think using MR for purchases at McDonald's might be, Amex has shifted some focus away from straight transfers to emphasizing MR as another form of currency. Benefits like Boingo wifi and the airline credit for the Platinum card along with developing cards with multiple category bonuses show that Amex, while retaining a focus on MR, has realized that they'd better catch up to the competition.
I'd think the next horizon is rental car insurance. Chase and Citi (and by extension, MC and Visa) now offer more cards with an obvious primary rental car coverage versus the secondary offered with some cards, with the supplemental purchase of primary insurance available. I personally believe the Amex benefit is the best--I've had two occasions to use it, and the process has pretty much not required much input from me as compared with some of the stories I see in some threads here at FT about experiences with other cards. But the point is not which is the objectively best rental car coverage--it's what the public perceives that to be. I tend to think Amex is going to have to consider offering primary coverage with no added cost through several of their cards to compete, especially since MR has lost some of its luster.
No way Amex drops MR--not with Citi continuing to do hit or miss with TY Points--but I think Amex wouldn't mind redefining the issue since MR no longer has a clear edge over Chase and Citi in this regard. So yes, to a certain extent GTL wouldn't acknowledge, Amex is losing the rewards war.
<shrug>