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Old Apr 24, 2013, 9:59 am
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Censors:
Delta Points (Rens Points)
Frugal Travel Guy
Milesabound - censors himself on rants
milesforfamily
MileValue
Million Mile Secrets
Very Good Points
Point Me To The Plane
Flyertalk
Travel Blogger Buzz - (proof is TBBs own words here)
TravelSkills
The Points Guy
The Points of Life
GodSaveThePoints
One Mile at a Time


Does Not Censor:
First2Board
Fishing4Deals
Food, Wine, and Miles
Hack My Trip
Head for Points
Miles From Blighty
Miles To The Wild
Points Summary
The Points Jock - Bill of Rights +1
ThreadTripping
Traveling Well For Less
Wald Around The World
Will Run For Miles
Doctor of Credit
View From the Wing

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Which miles and points blogs censor comments?

Old May 7, 2013, 8:30 am
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Personally, I think your original action was perfect: correct the comment and call out the linkback as a blatant money-grab (assuming that's what you think it was).

If that generates controversy in your comments, then that is GOOD, right? After all, every click counts so any heat is good heat?

For example, I got called out by VFTW for doing a linkback to this forum. Check out comments 7,8 and 9 here: http://boardingarea.com/blogs/viewfr...sity/#comments

I don't think VFTW necessarily *liked* me linking back to FlyerTalk since it competes with MilePoint which he is a 'co-founder' of, but he let the comment stand with just a poke at me. Seemed both fair and appropriate to me...
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Old May 7, 2013, 9:21 am
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Originally Posted by brooklynmatt
I actually found myself censoring this week. Another blogger came by my post and put his affiliate link into it. I felt that was out of line, especially as he did it ignoring my content that already dealt with the subject.

I then made a post about it today!
And the best part is how you misrepresented what I wrote in your blog to justify your actions.

You contacted me and said you were going to edit the comment. I suggested you delete it instead if you thought it was spam. You chose to edit it anyways and not inform me of that decision, effectively representing your thoughts with my name on them. Congratulations on managing to censor, mislead and misrepresent, all in one move.
Originally Posted by kokonutz
Personally, I think your original action was perfect: correct the comment and call out the linkback as a blatant money-grab (assuming that's what you think it was).
So it is OK to censor someone if you disagree with them?

"Calling someone out" is very different from editing their comment so that it appears they wrote something different than they actually did.
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Old May 7, 2013, 11:00 am
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I think this is clouding the boundaries a bit. Should we change categories to include bloggers who censor when they want, censor when there's extremem profanity, and add another category where comments are moderated before they're posted? @:-)
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Old May 7, 2013, 12:19 pm
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Originally Posted by sbm12

So it is OK to censor someone if you disagree with them?

"Calling someone out" is very different from editing their comment so that it appears they wrote something different than they actually did.
I think you may misunderstood my post. By 'correct the comment' I did not mean EDIT the comment. That is just wrong no matter what, as it is tantamount to putting you words in someone else's mouth.

By 'correct,' I more precisely meant 'rebut.' The way VFTW rebutted my linkback with a teasing jab.

OTOH, I could see leaving and responding to the comment but redacting the link to the affiliate if the owner considered the link to be spam.

When FlyerTalk first started the only moderator was Randy. His moderation style was pretty random and arbitrary. But it did not drive business away. biddingfortravel had a very severe approach to moderation and imho it very definitely drove customers away. So moderation is, imho, simply one among many marketplace decision for these entrepreneurs to take.
Originally Posted by yerffej201
I think this is clouding the boundaries a bit. Should we change categories to include bloggers who censor when they want, censor when there's extremem profanity, and add another category where comments are moderated before they're posted? @:-)
It's nice that we consumers have this place to compare the marketplace decisions that the various service providers have made. ^

I would say: wiki away!
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Old May 7, 2013, 2:01 pm
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Originally Posted by kokonutz
biddingfortravel had a very severe approach to moderation and imho it very definitely drove customers away.
I have to agree that banning people's IP addresses without warning of any kind tends to drive people away. More precisely, it prevents them from adding any value to the forum by posting but it allows them to gather value from the forum by reading it. I never understood the logic of that strategy.
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Old May 7, 2013, 2:17 pm
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Originally Posted by sbm12
And the best part is how you misrepresented what I wrote in your blog to justify your actions.

You contacted me and said you were going to edit the comment. I suggested you delete it instead if you thought it was spam. You chose to edit it anyways and not inform me of that decision, effectively representing your thoughts with my name on them. Congratulations on managing to censor, mislead and misrepresent, all in one move.

So it is OK to censor someone if you disagree with them?

"Calling someone out" is very different from editing their comment so that it appears they wrote something different than they actually did.
Your original comment is in its original form, other than your affiliate link has been removed and the comment <spam link removed> has been put in its place.

I agree that I shouldn't have changed your affiliate link to head somewhere else (initially it was to hotels.com, later to evrewards both weren't the best thing to do) when you called me out on that I changed it.

I hope you will find that agreeable.

Also, I didn't contact you to say I was going to edit your comment. I contacted you to inform you that I did edit your comment.
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Old May 7, 2013, 5:56 pm
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So I wanted to recall a pretty ridiculous situation not long ago:

A brother of a well known blogger made a highly arrogant, bitter and offensive post talking about a Harvard coworker. We can still see the starting part of the post as follows when we google it:

"It always fascinates me how dumb smart people are in life. In a company where traveling is part of the job, how can you not research on points and miles before you travel?! Honestly, you can just google the hotel chain with the word promotions and abou..."

It gets worse.

Many readers were highly highly offended and annoyed and responded with comments citing the arrogance and bitterness of the post. The post was edited to remove all the arrogant and disparaging bits toward Harvard students and the blogger apologized on behalf of the brother. Further commenters, seeing the edited post, commented how unfair the first few commenters were (commenting on a different post entirely) and I tried to comment explaining the post was edited. I wanted to defend the first few commenters explaining they commented on a different post. My comment was moderated, not approved and, furthermore, the first few commenters' comments were left up looking silly and unfair and as if they were overreacting to a far milder post.

I lost respect for the blogger and since stopped reading.
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Old May 8, 2013, 12:52 am
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Originally Posted by kokonutz
Ouch.

But good for Gary for not censoring!

In the uncensored marketplace of ideas the cream will rise to the top.
He has plagiarized from time to time. But credit him for publishing comments that called him out on it.
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Old May 8, 2013, 5:01 am
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Hey Guys,

I write for milevalue and I have never censored anything. Given that I only have written 20 posts and almost all of them being trip reports, I don't get too many inappropriate commenters.

The way it works (as far as I know) is that the people who comment regularly get instantly approved and new people who comment are put in the queue. Also, I only get access to approve comments for posts I write and not milevalue as a whole. Hope that brings some insight into how comments on our site work. I have no response for what others say about the better credit card links as i've never seen something like that on my posts.

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Old May 8, 2013, 8:57 am
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Originally Posted by tahsir21
Hey Guys,

I write for milevalue and I have never censored anything. Given that I only have written 20 posts and almost all of them being trip reports, I don't get too many inappropriate commenters.

The way it works (as far as I know) is that the people who comment regularly get instantly approved and new people who comment are put in the queue. Also, I only get access to approve comments for posts I write and not milevalue as a whole. Hope that brings some insight into how comments on our site work. I have no response for what others say about the better credit card links as i've never seen something like that on my posts.

-BMG
I was told that you guys sensor comments that are negative and not constructive. That your blog also removes any post about the blog and not what the particular article is about. Also, I was told that posts were removed to make it a "friendly place for newbies." More specifically that you guys do not want to see anything like what you see on other blogs or what is on Flyertalk.

Which is fine. I don't have to read the blog.
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Old May 8, 2013, 11:20 am
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This is definitely an interesting discussion to read. Everything was pretty cut and dry on appropriate moderating until money got involved. Almost everyone agrees that profanity, rudeness, and ad hominem attacks are inappropriate.

This affiliate link business, though, is pretty murky. It seems definitely appropriate to comment on a post on someone else's as a way of simultaneously contributing and promoting your site. I have to say, adding an affiliate link directly to someone else's site seems to be inappropriate to me.
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Old May 8, 2013, 11:42 am
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It's always hard to evaluate a situation until you experience something similar and see how you react. Until I have someone comment with an affiliate link in my blog, I cannot honestly argue concerning the situation.

However, on a similar note, I wrote a post explaining that people may take advantage of a certain "Spend $50 at Neiman Marcus, get 3500 FlexPerks" by buying a Neiman Marcus gift card and reselling it on PJ at a loss of about $7. ChasingThePoints clarified that, actually, if you want cash, there is an additional 2% cut so the loss will be $7.50 ($6.65 is for an Amazon gift card). Moreover, TCB is giving 1% cash back. Again, information I was missing was pointed out for a potentially better offer and I was extremely grateful that this was all clarified in my post. I gladly welcomed and appreciated the comment.

Again, there was no affiliate link so the situation is different. I may or may not have minded one (since I don't have a TCB affiliate link right now), but I can't say for sure until I experience it.
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Old May 8, 2013, 11:48 am
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Originally Posted by TheMilesProfessor
It's always hard to evaluate a situation until you experience something similar and see how you react. Until I have someone comment with an affiliate link in my blog, I cannot honestly argue concerning the situation.

However, on a similar note, I wrote a post explaining that people may take advantage of a certain "Spend $50 at Neiman Marcus, get 3500 FlexPerks" by buying a Neiman Marcus gift card and reselling it on PJ at a loss of about $7. ChasingThePoints clarified that, actually, if you want cash, there is an additional 2% cut so the loss will be $7.50 ($6.65 is for an Amazon gift card). Moreover, TCB is giving 1% cash back. Again, information I was missing was pointed out for a potentially better offer and I was extremely grateful that this was all clarified in my post. I gladly welcomed and appreciated the comment.

Again, there was no affiliate link so the situation is different. I may or may not have minded one (since I don't have a TCB affiliate link right now), but I can't say for sure until I experience it.
Very well said. Same here!
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Old May 8, 2013, 11:49 am
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Originally Posted by FlyFasterFlyFarther
Pretty clear that View from the Wing doesn't censor.....
I don't know if you would call it censoring, but Gary does have moderation enabled and he has either chosen to not publish posts or accidentally deleted them. I recall one comment not getting published - it was not offensive or contentious. It may have been off topic a bit. No harm, no foul. It's his blog, not mine. I think he publishes the really offensive ones because, frankly, they are pretty funny and I think he knows his regular readers respect him.
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Old May 8, 2013, 11:53 am
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I don't know if you would call it censoring, but Gary does have moderation enabled and he has either chosen to not publish posts or accidentally deleted them. I recall one comment not getting published - it was not offensive or contentious. It may have been off topic a bit. No harm, no foul. It's his blog, not mine. I think he publishes the really offensive ones because, frankly, they are pretty funny and I think he knows his regular readers respect him.
Plus there is satisfaction in seeing your fans jump to your defense! @:-)^
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