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Old Apr 1, 2017, 7:34 am
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Originally Posted by OSSYULYYZ
From what I understand 'legal residency status' is the blue card.
Not necessarily. There are other types of legal residency status.

Regarding the blue card, you probably won't be eligible anyway (from I'm gathering from your posts).
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Old Apr 1, 2017, 7:40 am
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Strange that nobody mentioned it, perhaps no longer valid: until a few years ago, becoming a member of the Legion Estrangere (for how long?) would automatically yield the French citizenship upon completion of the service.

PS Not that it matters a lot in the context of this thread, but my son (37) is presently trying to get rid of his US citizenship (he's also Greek and German), It makes his life difficult with respect to taxation...
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Old Apr 1, 2017, 7:40 am
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Originally Posted by WorldLux
Not necessarily. There are other types of legal residency status.

Regarding the blue card, you probably won't be eligible anyway (from I'm gathering from your posts).
Aren't the only requirements to have a good paying job and have permanent residence? I would like to actually live in Europe or St. Pierre because I would be able to experience multiple cultures in one continent. Maybe I have not expressed myself clearly.

Also why would I probably not qualify for the Blue Card?
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Old Apr 1, 2017, 7:42 am
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Originally Posted by KLouis
Strange that nobody mentioned it, perhaps no longer valid: until a few years ago, becoming a member of the Legion Estrangere (for how long?) would automatically yield the French citizenship upon completion of the service.

PS Not that it matters a lot in the context of this thread, but my son (37) is presently trying to get rid of his US citizenship (he's also Greek and German), It makes his life difficult with respect to taxation...
I see. Part of the reason I do not want to obtain US citizenship is that US citizens have to pay taxes no matter where they live. Is this the same case with your son?
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Old Apr 1, 2017, 8:02 am
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How do you plan on getting a 'good job'? Please explain this part.
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Old Apr 1, 2017, 8:05 am
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How do you plan on getting a 'good job'? Please explain this part.
I plan on getting a job in webdev or possibly research in CS...

but most likely webdev...
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Old Apr 1, 2017, 8:44 am
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Originally Posted by KLouis
..., becoming a member of the Legion Estrangere (for how long?) would automatically yield the French citizenship upon completion of the service.
Have you seen the guys of the Legion Etrangere? Those are tough efffers and IMO fully deserve citizenship. Service in the Legion isn't exactly a walk in the park.

Originally Posted by OSSYULYYZ
Aren't the only requirements to have a good paying job and have permanent residence?
No. France actually issues very little Blue cards AFAIK.

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Also why would I probably not qualify for the Blue Card?
Well, go google the damn requirements. Your positing does not point to you being eligible to get a Blue card. I'm not even sure if you would be eligible for any more permanent status.
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Old Apr 1, 2017, 8:54 am
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Originally Posted by OSSYULYYZ
I see. Part of the reason I do not want to obtain US citizenship is that US citizens have to pay taxes no matter where they live. Is this the same case with your son?
Need to file, not necessarily pay.
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Old Apr 1, 2017, 9:44 am
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Originally Posted by OSSYULYYZ
I plan on getting a job in webdev or possibly research in CS...

but most likely webdev...
I mean how do you expect an employer to hire you if you are not allowed to work in the country?
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Old Apr 1, 2017, 9:51 am
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I mean how do you expect an employer to hire you if you are not allowed to work in the country?
European Work Permit...

Like the US H1-B program, I would need a company sponsor, no? I cannot apply on my own, unlike the TN (NAFTA) Visa for Canadians working in the US...
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Old Apr 1, 2017, 9:53 am
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Originally Posted by WorldLux
Not necessarily. There are other types of legal residency status.

Regarding the blue card, you probably won't be eligible anyway (from I'm gathering from your posts).
The handing out of blue cards is one of the more limited ways to get residency rights in the EU. Counting on a blue card? The chances of getting it aren't all that great for most.

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Strange that nobody mentioned it, perhaps no longer valid: until a few years ago, becoming a member of the Legion Estrangere (for how long?) would automatically yield the French citizenship upon completion of the service.

PS Not that it matters a lot in the context of this thread, but my son (37) is presently trying to get rid of his US citizenship (he's also Greek and German), It makes his life difficult with respect to taxation...
The French Foreign Legion route is one of the more arduous routes. Easier to do other things to get citizenship in an EU and/or other (at least de facto) Schengen zone country, at least for some.

Some citizenships are a hassle to have, especially if not intending to reside and/or work in the country of citizenship. The US citizenship is one of the worst in this regard to have, and we make you pay up big time in order to get rid of it. Most EU countries' citizenships aren't as burdensome, even those that come with a possible military service duty requirement.

If you've got enough money, buying a Grenada citizenship by investment, then using that to get an EB 2 US visa for treaty investors and some EU citizenship by investment? That is possible in under 24 months with little to no real physical dislocation long term. If a US citizen wants to go this route and renounce US citizenship, it can be a relatively sweet arrangement.
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Old Apr 1, 2017, 10:14 am
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Originally Posted by OSSYULYYZ
European Work Permit...

Like the US H1-B program, I would need a company sponsor, no? I cannot apply on my own, unlike the TN (NAFTA) Visa for Canadians working in the US...
Right, so you'll have to find an employer willing to sponsor you. Saying that you want an easy job at customs obviously isn't going to cut it so you'll have to be serious about that. Assuming you get this and keep your job for several years, you may be able to apply for citizenship.

I'm sorry but you seem awfully naive about this. Are you in a job at the moment that might transfer you?

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Old Apr 1, 2017, 12:32 pm
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Originally Posted by OSSYULYYZ
European Work Permit...

Like the US H1-B program, I would need a company sponsor, no? I cannot apply on my own, unlike the TN (NAFTA) Visa for Canadians working in the US...
Many companies are reluctant to apply on your behalf unless your skills are so specialist that they are unavailable in that country.

'web dev' are two a penny.

I have a friend from South Africa who got his working visa from the company who sponsored him. They had to demonstrate that there was no one else in the UK capable of doing his particular job (or several others by splitting it up).

His visa only lasts whilst he works for the same company. If he changed jobs to remain in the UK his new employer would have to apply for a visa and demonstrate the same issues.


I have another friend who moved from the UK to the Netherlands a couple of years ago using his EU treaty movement rights to a new job. He still had to register with the Dutch Authorities so he could get health care etc so he has a legal resident status. After 5 years he can - should he wish to - apply for Dutch citizenship and then get a Dutch passport.

That is what you would have to do.

You get citizenship and then the passport after the residency period - and it is 5 years for France (which you would know if you had done some basic research).

And that means staying in France for the full 5 years other than short holidays (My SA friend is only allowed outside of the UK for a limited number of days a year for both work and personal travel)

Are you prepared to do that?
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Getting residency in some parts of the EU may be as easy as to have a serious romantic relationship with an EU/EEA citizen living in or moving to be economically active in another country. The relationship can be short of marriage and work for this purpose. But if the relationship ends, you may end up having to leave if wanting to stay on the right side of the law without extra complication.
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Old Apr 1, 2017, 1:19 pm
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Originally Posted by UKtravelbear
That is what you would have to do.

You get citizenship and then the passport after the residency period - and it is 5 years for France (which you would know if you had done some basic research).

And that means staying in France for the full 5 years other than short holidays
(My SA friend is only allowed outside of the UK for a limited number of days a year for both work and personal travel)

Are you prepared to do that?
Are you claiming that I did no research? I know that it is 5 years in France. (3 if you are married to a French Citizen) and I am willing to do that. I do not see why everyone is bashing me for not doing enough research. The reason I am thinking about St Pierre is because it is in North America, and my family in the area can visit...

Originally Posted by GUWonder
Getting residency in some parts of the EU may be as easy as to have a serious romantic relationship with an EU/EEA citizen living in or moving to be economically active in another country. The relationship can be short of marriage and work for this purpose. But if the relationship ends, you may end up having to leave if wanting to stay on the right side of the law without extra complication.
Very interesting...
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