5/ngts in Vienna: Salzburg day trip? Other day trips?
Apr 4, 2016, 4:34 pm
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The trouble is, Vienna has lost a lot of that charm over the last few years. It had a vibe in the 80s, when I first went there as a student, that is simply not there any more. And there was a strong feeling of old Vienna (for better or for worse). Now, the place is more mixed up than it ever has been before, and it has become quite tacky. Sure, all the old monuments and museums are still there, but I am speaking about the feeling of the place.
Apr 4, 2016, 6:38 pm
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The trouble is, Vienna has lost a lot of that charm over the last few years. It had a vibe in the 80s, when I first went there as a student, that is simply not there any more. And there was a strong feeling of old Vienna (for better or for worse). Now, the place is more mixed up than it ever has been before, and it has become quite tacky. Sure, all the old monuments and museums are still there, but I am speaking about the feeling of the place.
The down side for me, as an American, is that of all the cities I've been to in Europe, Vienna is the one that reminds me most of a US city. Not that there's anything bad about that, there are a few here I really enjoy too!
Apr 5, 2016, 1:45 am
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Interesting observation. Probably some truth to it. I personally think it's a great city.
The down side for me, as an American, is that of all the cities I've been to in Europe, Vienna is the one that reminds me most of a US city. Not that there's anything bad about that, there are a few here I really enjoy too!
The down side for me, as an American, is that of all the cities I've been to in Europe, Vienna is the one that reminds me most of a US city. Not that there's anything bad about that, there are a few here I really enjoy too!
Apr 5, 2016, 1:47 am
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Interesting observation. Probably some truth to it. I personally think it's a great city.
The down side for me, as an American, is that of all the cities I've been to in Europe, Vienna is the one that reminds me most of a US city. Not that there's anything bad about that, there are a few here I really enjoy too!
The down side for me, as an American, is that of all the cities I've been to in Europe, Vienna is the one that reminds me most of a US city. Not that there's anything bad about that, there are a few here I really enjoy too!
Perhaps a part of historical Vienna reminded me in part of Disney in Florida, but I think that is not what you had in mind.
Apr 5, 2016, 6:14 am
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Of which city in the US does Vienna remind you? As an American, can't say I found Vienna to remind me much of any place in the US. Perhaps it's tied to where a person is staying and wandering? I've certainly not felt that as a visitor for leisure or work there.
Perhaps a part of historical Vienna reminded me in part of Disney in Florida, but I think that is not what you had in mind.
Perhaps a part of historical Vienna reminded me in part of Disney in Florida, but I think that is not what you had in mind.
Just my opinion. It's still one of my favorite European cities to visit.
Apr 7, 2016, 9:45 am
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I've done a boat (hydrofoil?) from Vienna to Budapest.
Vienna seems much more diverse now, which many young people (some of whoom seem to be university students) who are obviously foreigners. There are neighborhoods with lots of cheap foreign restaurants, etc.
In the past, the center of Vienna seemed consist of conservative wealthy (European if not Austrian) people who dressed very expensively and formally/properly, etc., although other areas such as the Prater (spelling?) had middle class and working class families.
To me, the city has indeed changed.
Vienna seems much more diverse now, which many young people (some of whoom seem to be university students) who are obviously foreigners. There are neighborhoods with lots of cheap foreign restaurants, etc.
In the past, the center of Vienna seemed consist of conservative wealthy (European if not Austrian) people who dressed very expensively and formally/properly, etc., although other areas such as the Prater (spelling?) had middle class and working class families.
To me, the city has indeed changed.
Apr 7, 2016, 1:35 pm
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1. It looks like there are two companies operating the cruises. Any recommendations on one over the other, and why?
2. Is it possible to do a day trip from Vienna without being too rushed? I'm thinking about taking a morning train out to Melk, seeing the abbey, maybe get some lunch, and then take the cruise from Melk to Krems. And train back to Vienna, hopefully in time for dinner. Is this reasonable, or is it best to take the train back and forth to Melk and skip the cruise?
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Apr 7, 2016, 3:09 pm
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I definitely think you can do day trips from Vienna without being too rushed or stressed. I've done loads of them, but I have not done Melk (and I can't really comment on the practicalities of your proposal, but I reckon it's doable). As you probably are well aware distances are much smaller in Europe than in the US (where I always get into trouble because I forever underestimate the time it takes to get anywhere).
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I definitely think you can do day trips from Vienna without being too rushed or stressed. I've done loads of them, but I have not done Melk (and I can't really comment on the practicalities of your proposal, but I reckon it's doable). As you probably are well aware distances are much smaller in Europe than in the US (where I always get into trouble because I forever underestimate the time it takes to get anywhere).
I'd love to make an overnight of it and then bike along the Danube, but my travel companion won't be up for that
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Apr 7, 2016, 6:07 pm
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2. Is it possible to do a day trip from Vienna without being too rushed? I'm thinking about taking a morning train out to Melk, seeing the abbey, maybe get some lunch, and then take the cruise from Melk to Krems. And train back to Vienna, hopefully in time for dinner. Is this reasonable, or is it best to take the train back and forth to Melk and skip the cruise?
Thanks!
Thanks!
It sounds as though the walk from the Krems pier to the train station is a bit of a haul, and many suggest getting off the boat at Durnstein, spending the afternoon there, and then taking a bus to the Krems train station to get back to Vienna.
Apr 8, 2016, 12:46 pm
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I've read a fair amount suggesting that it's a good day trip, but it might depend on how much time you want to spend at the abbey. Definitely going the Melk to Krems direction is the better option, because it takes half as long as going upstream. The Melk departures appear to be 11:00, 13:45, and 13:50. The 13:45 is on Brandner. I think you can buy a combi ticket on OBB for either line.
It sounds as though the walk from the Krems pier to the train station is a bit of a haul, and many suggest getting off the boat at Durnstein, spending the afternoon there, and then taking a bus to the Krems train station to get back to Vienna.
It sounds as though the walk from the Krems pier to the train station is a bit of a haul, and many suggest getting off the boat at Durnstein, spending the afternoon there, and then taking a bus to the Krems train station to get back to Vienna.