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Old Mar 5, 12, 11:59 am   #1
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travel from Amsterdam to Antwerp?

Is there a train that goes from Amsterdam to Antwerp or must one go to Brussels and transfer to another train/bus to Antwerp? Thanks!
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Is there a train that goes from Amsterdam to Antwerp or must one go to Brussels and transfer to another train/bus to Antwerp? Thanks!
All trains from Amsterdam to Brussel stop in Antwerpen, no need to backtrack.
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All trains from Amsterdam to Brussel stop in Antwerpen, no need to backtrack.
Beautiful!

One other quick question. Does the train stop at AMS as well? If I wake up in Antwerp and have to catch a 10am flight out of AMS, what time should I be on the train, in your view?
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Here is an example schedule:

IC 9212
05:46 Amsterdam Centraal
05:59 06:01 Schiphol (Airport)
06:25 06:27 Den Haag HS
06:49 06:55 Rotterdam Centraal
07:08 07:09 Dordrecht
07:32 07:34 Roosendaal Roosendaal(Gr)
08:00 08:03 Antwerpen Centraal

http://www.nshispeed.nl/en/internati...rain-timetable
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Beautiful!

One other quick question. Does the train stop at AMS as well? If I wake up in Antwerp and have to catch a 10am flight out of AMS, what time should I be on the train, in your view?
It does. Journey time is about two hours on Intercity trains (see previous post) but only one hour on the Thalys.

Unfortunately the earliest you can get to AMS in the morning is 0847 (with a change at Rotterdam) or 0858 (direct). OK with carry-on, but rather tight if you are checking baggage (personally I wouldn't risk it, but that's me)
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One other quick question. Does the train stop at AMS as well? If I wake up in Antwerp and have to catch a 10am flight out of AMS, what time should I be on the train, in your view?
I think it will be difficult, unless you have a short haul flight.
Antwerpen - AMS (Schiphol) takes between 1 and 2 ours, depending on the type of train. But there are no fast trains early enough. I did a quick search for a random weekday on the site provided by bankops, and the earliest you can get to AMS on a direct train is 8:58 (or 8:47 with one change), for which you have to leave Antwerpen at 7:00.

I have no recent experiences departing from AMS, so I can't help you on realistic latest check-in times.

If your trip is some months in the future, the new high speed trains might be (maybe) operating. (Currently it is still a mix of high speed and normal IC trains.)

(I now see that Aviatrix has been just a bit quicker than me... )
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OK thanks all! Seems like I should go to Amsterdam the night before then for my flight. Very helpful.
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OK thanks all! Seems like I should go to Amsterdam the night before then for my flight. Very helpful.
I caught the last train from Antwerp last August. It departed around 10 pm. Day of purchase fare for it was 30 euro. The 8 and 9 pm's were closer to 50. The cheapest advance purchase I see on ns.nl is 28.6.
Loved the Belgian beer cart service en route.
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If you've already visited Amsterdam and don't want to go again, you could always spend the night in Leiden. Only 15 min to the airport and 6 trains per hour.
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If you've already visited Amsterdam and don't want to go again, you could always spend the night in Leiden. Only 15 min to the airport and 6 trains per hour.
- and a Golden Tulip hotel right at the station. Used to be our regular stop-over place until we discovered the CitizenM at Schiphol.
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- and a Golden Tulip hotel right at the station. Used to be our regular stop-over place until we discovered the CitizenM at Schiphol.
The CitizenM is my hotel of choice at Schiphol.
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I have no recent experiences departing from AMS, so I can't help you on realistic latest check-in times.
IME AMS is always a pain for international/long-haul check-in. Took us 45 minutes (at least) to check in and check 2 bags last trip, and we had already printed out boarding passes prior to arrival at the airport. Then there was security into the terminal, and further security including a pat-down and repeat bag x-ray at the gate. Or course, all that was followed by a 3 hour mechanical delay, during which we were not allowed to leave the secure gate area.
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Then there was security into the terminal, and further security including a pat-down and repeat bag x-ray at the gate.
If you went through two security checks you must have gone the wrong way.

For Schengen departures you go through security as you go airside, but don't go through a further security check at the gate.

For non-Schengen departures you don't through security as you go airside, but go through security at the gate (or, for parts of D Pier, at the entry point to a group of gates)

If you went through security twice you must have entered via the Schengen side, for a non-Schengen departure.
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If you went through two security checks you must have gone the wrong way.

For Schengen departures you go through security as you go airside, but don't go through a further security check at the gate.

For non-Schengen departures you don't through security as you go airside, but go through security at the gate (or, for parts of D Pier, at the entry point to a group of gates)

If you went through security twice you must have entered via the Schengen side, for a non-Schengen departure.
YOU'RE WRONG.

We did not go "the wrong way" and there was security at the gate as well as the airside entry. From the KLM desks to the departure gate EVERYONE was sent through security by the staff on duty directing all pax to the screening point. That means WTMD, bag x-rays, etc. Since you weren't there that day and did not observe the procedures in place, you really have no basis for your statement that we went the wrong way. We went the way all pax were required to go, or maybe you're saying the airport security staff directing the lines were wrong?
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YOU'RE WRONG.

We did not go "the wrong way" and there was security at the gate as well as the airside entry. From the KLM desks to the departure gate EVERYONE was sent through security by the staff on duty directing all pax to the screening point. That means WTMD, bag x-rays, etc. Since you weren't there that day and did not observe the procedures in place, you really have no basis for your statement that we went the wrong way. We went the way all pax were required to go, or maybe you're saying the airport security staff directing the lines were wrong?
From what you are describing it looks like you may indeed have been misdirected. There is no security point at the entrance to the non-Schengen part of the airport. You must have been sent to the Schengen entrance, which is the wrong one for non-Schengen departures. Why they would have done this I don't know, but it's certainly not how things work at Schiphol normally. It was either an error, or there was something out of the oridnary going on that day.
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