OT - German press (and M&M FT forum): EY & EK might merge
Mar 27, 2017, 2:57 am
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OT - German press (and M&M FT forum): EY & EK might merge
I am a bit surprised no discussion here or on on EK forum.
As per German press:
https://global.handelsblatt.com/comp...-merger-722150
(BTW... IIRC this was the magazine that first suggested Mr. Hogan might lose his job.)
Post on FT M&M forum:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28015621-post64.html
PS. Mods - please feel free to merge with another thread, if this was already reported...
As per German press:
https://global.handelsblatt.com/comp...-merger-722150
(BTW... IIRC this was the magazine that first suggested Mr. Hogan might lose his job.)
Post on FT M&M forum:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28015621-post64.html
PS. Mods - please feel free to merge with another thread, if this was already reported...
Mar 27, 2017, 3:23 am
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And then there's this...
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/business...merger-rumours
Even if they do agree to a merger, expect years to go by before the two programs are seamlessly integrated.
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/business...merger-rumours
Even if they do agree to a merger, expect years to go by before the two programs are seamlessly integrated.
Mar 28, 2017, 7:44 am
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You'll confuse people into thinking Etihad (EY) and Ethiopian Airlines (ET) are merging. I've requested for the moderator to change the title to EK.
For what it's worth, Tim Clark has already vigorously denied the rumours. But who knows, given the amount of changes in store for the region in the coming years.
For what it's worth, Tim Clark has already vigorously denied the rumours. But who knows, given the amount of changes in store for the region in the coming years.
Mar 29, 2017, 7:47 am
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I was once told anecdotally that, before Etihad was formed, an approach to invest heavily into Emirates was made by Abu Dhabi. The rub was that they wanted it to be the national airline and dual homed from AUH and DXB.
The idea being to split flights to and from destinations between the two hubs. How this would have worked for transit folk I've no idea
When the plan was rebuffed, however, Etihad was formed moments later...
It makes no sense for them to compete within the country and more so when Muscat and Oman Air get going too.
There is also the fact that there is a massive unused brand new airport right on the border!
The idea being to split flights to and from destinations between the two hubs. How this would have worked for transit folk I've no idea
When the plan was rebuffed, however, Etihad was formed moments later...
It makes no sense for them to compete within the country and more so when Muscat and Oman Air get going too.
There is also the fact that there is a massive unused brand new airport right on the border!
Mar 29, 2017, 8:27 am
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Emirates has become like a bus service around the world. Busy and impersonal. I like Etihad because it's more personal even though I need to be in Dubai not Abu Dhabi. I wonder what implications would be for AUH flights if this happens.
Even today Abu Dhabi city has such a different feel to Dubai, in some ways one is better in others the other is better, I think different airlines serving the different cities reflects the difference in cities well too.
Mar 31, 2017, 12:45 am
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Do you mean DWC?
Emirates has become like a bus service around the world. Busy and impersonal. I like Etihad because it's more personal even though I need to be in Dubai not Abu Dhabi. I wonder what implications would be for AUH flights if this happens.
Even today Abu Dhabi city has such a different feel to Dubai, in some ways one is better in others the other is better, I think different airlines serving the different cities reflects the difference in cities well too.
Emirates has become like a bus service around the world. Busy and impersonal. I like Etihad because it's more personal even though I need to be in Dubai not Abu Dhabi. I wonder what implications would be for AUH flights if this happens.
Even today Abu Dhabi city has such a different feel to Dubai, in some ways one is better in others the other is better, I think different airlines serving the different cities reflects the difference in cities well too.
Yes DWC though the midfield terminal is still going and I don't know how they'll transit people through two hubs. The rail system has stalled and anyone believing that their hyperloop is anytime this side of 2028 is mistaken
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Mar 31, 2017, 4:29 am
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EY is one of the few airlines making money from Y and can only do it in the way you describe
Yes DWC though the midfield terminal is still going and I don't know how they'll transit people through two hubs. The rail system has stalled and anyone believing that their hyperloop is anytime this side of 2028 is mistaken
Yes DWC though the midfield terminal is still going and I don't know how they'll transit people through two hubs. The rail system has stalled and anyone believing that their hyperloop is anytime this side of 2028 is mistaken
If so, I agree, but even Emirates business class had a distinctive mass transit feel when compared to EY or QR for that matter.
Apr 5, 2017, 6:13 am
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IMHO this will only happen if things get really desperate. Too much of a loss of face (on both sides) for this to happen. It has been “discussed” though 
Apr 8, 2017, 4:57 am
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I was once told anecdotally that, before Etihad was formed, an approach to invest heavily into Emirates was made by Abu Dhabi. The rub was that they wanted it to be the national airline and dual homed from AUH and DXB.
The idea being to split flights to and from destinations between the two hubs. How this would have worked for transit folk I've no idea
When the plan was rebuffed, however, Etihad was formed moments later...
It makes no sense for them to compete within the country and more so when Muscat and Oman Air get going too.
There is also the fact that there is a massive unused brand new airport right on the border!
The idea being to split flights to and from destinations between the two hubs. How this would have worked for transit folk I've no idea
When the plan was rebuffed, however, Etihad was formed moments later...
It makes no sense for them to compete within the country and more so when Muscat and Oman Air get going too.
There is also the fact that there is a massive unused brand new airport right on the border!
Prior to EY, EK really was competing with GF and its rotating hubs (AUH/MCT/DOH/BAH).
I would argue that EY is in need of EK - not the other way around. EK is many times the size (in turnover, services, airframes, seats, passengers, cargo, destinations, you name it).
And whereas EY has followed a diversification strategy by investing in low-key airlines (AZ/etc.), EK moved away from that altogether (remember escaping from UL) - save that they had recently gone into consulting by engaging with TAAG.
DWC would definitely be a sweet spot for traffic in the UAE (just look at population density) and could be an ideal joint where EK and EY could become one.
EY's portfolio could be the most sticky point, any talk about family/tribe/Emirate pride is irrelevant.
Apr 9, 2017, 1:41 am
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More conjecture here
http://www.bangaloreaviation.com/2017/04/christoph-mueller-etihads-new-ceo.html
Agree with you entirely Edy, I can only see it happen if the sovereign wealth fund that owns Etihad pushes for it as it is haemorrhaging money
http://www.bangaloreaviation.com/2017/04/christoph-mueller-etihads-new-ceo.html
Agree with you entirely Edy, I can only see it happen if the sovereign wealth fund that owns Etihad pushes for it as it is haemorrhaging money