Connecting in AUH with non-interlined bag-how much time to re-clear security?
#1
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Connecting in AUH with non-interlined bag-how much time to re-clear security?
Hey,
I'm booking an AA flight that's YYZ-LGA-JFK-LHR-AUH and planning to add an EY award ticket to KHI at the end. My incoming BA codeshare flight from LHR lands at 8:35 pm and the KHI flight is at 11:15 pm.
I understand AA won't interline my checked bag through to KHI because EY isn't a OW carrier. How long will it take to pick it up and re-clear immigration and security?
Thanks!
I'm booking an AA flight that's YYZ-LGA-JFK-LHR-AUH and planning to add an EY award ticket to KHI at the end. My incoming BA codeshare flight from LHR lands at 8:35 pm and the KHI flight is at 11:15 pm.
I understand AA won't interline my checked bag through to KHI because EY isn't a OW carrier. How long will it take to pick it up and re-clear immigration and security?
Thanks!
#4
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The TA flight IS on AA metal, but they don't interline bags on separate tickets anymore unless the connecting carrier is OW. The AA booking agent confirmed this on the phone yesterday when I was buying the ticket.
#5
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AA does interline to EY. See http://flyerguide.com/Interline_Tick...gs_and_BPs_(AA)
There is no restriction for OW members to only interline to OW, in fact most airlines interline far beyond their alliance.
There is no restriction for OW members to only interline to OW, in fact most airlines interline far beyond their alliance.
#6
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AA does interline to EY. See http://flyerguide.com/Interline_Tick...gs_and_BPs_(AA)
Now AA has a special relationship with EY and that may be an unpublished exception. But the stated policy is what the OP has correctly described.
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Irrelevant. AA has interline agreements with most carriers; however, most OW carriers including AA will not interline bags IF there are two separate tickets, unless it is OW to OW. This has something to do with collecting multiple checked bag fees.
Now AA has a special relationship with EY and that may be an unpublished exception. But the stated policy is what the OP has correctly described.
Now AA has a special relationship with EY and that may be an unpublished exception. But the stated policy is what the OP has correctly described.
#8
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But then you may not need to do that, as you could proceed to the Etihad transit desk just before transit security and explain the situation. EY may be able to locate your bags, tag them for you while you wait without having to go through immigration/customs.
Going through security is mandatory.
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Hey,
I'm booking an AA flight that's YYZ-LGA-JFK-LHR-AUH and planning to add an EY award ticket to KHI at the end. My incoming BA codeshare flight from LHR lands at 8:35 pm and the KHI flight is at 11:15 pm.
I understand AA won't interline my checked bag through to KHI because EY isn't a OW carrier. How long will it take to pick it up and re-clear immigration and security?
Thanks!
I'm booking an AA flight that's YYZ-LGA-JFK-LHR-AUH and planning to add an EY award ticket to KHI at the end. My incoming BA codeshare flight from LHR lands at 8:35 pm and the KHI flight is at 11:15 pm.
I understand AA won't interline my checked bag through to KHI because EY isn't a OW carrier. How long will it take to pick it up and re-clear immigration and security?
Thanks!
#10
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This kind of thoughtless response makes the whole company look bad.
Last edited by SeeBuyFly; Feb 3, 2015 at 9:49 am
#11
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At 99.999% of the world's airports you will have to pass immigration (which may need a visa depending on your nationality) to get to where you collect your luggage. You will then have to recheck it and pass immigration and security. You have asked how long it will take, but it is not reasonable to expect an answer; it depends on how many people there are in line, which depends on time of day and many random factors. I simply do not believe you will be able to persuade any staff member to go and get your luggage for you; there are too many legal red flags there.
As you probably know, it is not smart to buy two separate tickets. Everyone always assumes that things will happen like clockwork, but that is not always so. If your incoming flight is late and you have a single ticket, it's the airline's problem. If you have separate tickets, it's your problem. As far as EY is concerned, you are starting in AUH and missed your flight.
Combined with the need to collect and recheck your luggage, it would not be wise to allow less than 6 hours for the transfer. Sure you may arrive on time and breeze through immigration and luggage collection and check-in and security, and find yourself with hours to kill. But then again, you may not.
Or you may get lucky and find someone at AA during check-in who will send your bags through to the final destination. Certainly you should plead your case, pointing out EY's special relationship with AA. But don't hold your breath.
Last edited by SeeBuyFly; Feb 3, 2015 at 10:53 am
#12
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I have not done this at AUH, but I have done this elsewhere, and I see that you are eager for responses.
At 99.999% of the world's airports you will have to pass immigration (which may need a visa depending on your nationality) to get to where you collect your luggage. You will then have to recheck it and pass immigration and security. You have asked how long it will take, but it is not reasonable to expect an answer; it depends on how many people there are in line, which depends on time of day and many random factors. I simply do not believe you will be able to persuade any staff member to go and get your luggage for you; there are too many legal red flags there.
As you probably know, it is not smart to buy two separate tickets. Everyone always assumes that things will happen like clockwork, but that is not always so. If your incoming flight is late and you have a single ticket, it's the airline's problem. If you have separate tickets, it's your problem. As far as EY is concerned, you are starting in AUH and missed your flight.
Combined with the need to collect and recheck your luggage, it would not be wise to allow less than 6 hours for the transfer. Sure you may arrive on time and breeze through immigration and luggage collection and check-in and security, and find yourself with hours to kill. But then again, you may not.
Or you may get lucky and find someone at AA during check-in who will send your bags through to the final destination. Certainly you should plead your case, pointing out EY's special relationship with AA. But don't hold your breath.
At 99.999% of the world's airports you will have to pass immigration (which may need a visa depending on your nationality) to get to where you collect your luggage. You will then have to recheck it and pass immigration and security. You have asked how long it will take, but it is not reasonable to expect an answer; it depends on how many people there are in line, which depends on time of day and many random factors. I simply do not believe you will be able to persuade any staff member to go and get your luggage for you; there are too many legal red flags there.
As you probably know, it is not smart to buy two separate tickets. Everyone always assumes that things will happen like clockwork, but that is not always so. If your incoming flight is late and you have a single ticket, it's the airline's problem. If you have separate tickets, it's your problem. As far as EY is concerned, you are starting in AUH and missed your flight.
Combined with the need to collect and recheck your luggage, it would not be wise to allow less than 6 hours for the transfer. Sure you may arrive on time and breeze through immigration and luggage collection and check-in and security, and find yourself with hours to kill. But then again, you may not.
Or you may get lucky and find someone at AA during check-in who will send your bags through to the final destination. Certainly you should plead your case, pointing out EY's special relationship with AA. But don't hold your breath.
The choice of the tickets was dictated by the fact that I have to complete an AA challenge by May, which means I have to travel on AA/BA metal as far as possible. Adding KHI on that final leg would have almost doubled the cost of the ticket, and I had plenty of EY points to burn, so I figured I'd give it a shot. Who needs a checked bag anyway?
On a final note- do you have any idea if EY would check through a bag from AUH to JFK? Or do they have the same policy as AA?
#13
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Combined with the need to collect and recheck your luggage, it would not be wise to allow less than 6 hours for the transfer. Sure you may arrive on time and breeze through immigration and luggage collection and check-in and security, and find yourself with hours to kill. But then again, you may not.
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Just to provide an update for anyone who was curious about this topic, while sitting in AUH and waiting for my connection.
After landing I went straight to the EY Desk in Terminal 1 for my connecting boarding pass. I asked them what would have happened if I had checked my bag in at JFK, to AUH.
He informed me that all I would have needed to do was inform the Transfer Desk nearby and if there was a minimum of 1 hour for my connection, they would transfer the bag themselves, even if it was on a separate ticket. I would not have needed to clear immigration and check in again.
I'm not sure if that's accurate, and it still won't help you if your inbound leg to AUH is delayed, but it seems it's at least theoretically possible.
He also informed me that I would be able to check a bag straight through to JFK on my return leg, even if I was on 2 tickets, as long as I made sure to inform the check in desk at KHI about the final destination. I might just try that in a few weeks
After landing I went straight to the EY Desk in Terminal 1 for my connecting boarding pass. I asked them what would have happened if I had checked my bag in at JFK, to AUH.
He informed me that all I would have needed to do was inform the Transfer Desk nearby and if there was a minimum of 1 hour for my connection, they would transfer the bag themselves, even if it was on a separate ticket. I would not have needed to clear immigration and check in again.
I'm not sure if that's accurate, and it still won't help you if your inbound leg to AUH is delayed, but it seems it's at least theoretically possible.
He also informed me that I would be able to check a bag straight through to JFK on my return leg, even if I was on 2 tickets, as long as I made sure to inform the check in desk at KHI about the final destination. I might just try that in a few weeks
#15
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Just to provide an update for anyone who was curious about this topic, while sitting in AUH and waiting for my connection.
After landing I went straight to the EY Desk in Terminal 1 for my connecting boarding pass. I asked them what would have happened if I had checked my bag in at JFK, to AUH.
He informed me that all I would have needed to do was inform the Transfer Desk nearby and if there was a minimum of 1 hour for my connection, they would transfer the bag themselves, even if it was on a separate ticket. I would not have needed to clear immigration and check in again.
I'm not sure if that's accurate, and it still won't help you if your inbound leg to AUH is delayed, but it seems it's at least theoretically possible.
He also informed me that I would be able to check a bag straight through to JFK on my return leg, even if I was on 2 tickets, as long as I made sure to inform the check in desk at KHI about the final destination. I might just try that in a few weeks
After landing I went straight to the EY Desk in Terminal 1 for my connecting boarding pass. I asked them what would have happened if I had checked my bag in at JFK, to AUH.
He informed me that all I would have needed to do was inform the Transfer Desk nearby and if there was a minimum of 1 hour for my connection, they would transfer the bag themselves, even if it was on a separate ticket. I would not have needed to clear immigration and check in again.
I'm not sure if that's accurate, and it still won't help you if your inbound leg to AUH is delayed, but it seems it's at least theoretically possible.
He also informed me that I would be able to check a bag straight through to JFK on my return leg, even if I was on 2 tickets, as long as I made sure to inform the check in desk at KHI about the final destination. I might just try that in a few weeks
Originally Posted by edy4eva
as you could proceed to the Etihad transit desk just before transit security and explain the situation. EY may be able to locate your bags, tag them for you while you wait without having to go through immigration/customs.