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Old Nov 29, 11, 11:04 am   #1
 
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EY Joining any Alliance

I am sure this has been discussed before, but couldnt find it so here we go again.

Any idea if EY is joining Star Alliance or One World or Sky Team.

Any news would be great.

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Old Nov 29, 11, 7:08 pm   #2
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I do doubtful if EY will ever considering to joining OW or SkyTeam. I think EY who likely to join Skyteam and it's right choice for me. I wasn't sure if there is chance to joining Oneworld or SkyTeam. Nobody who will made a decide.
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Old Nov 29, 11, 9:31 pm   #3
 
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EY have had a relationship with QF, terminated for VA instead, and now a relationship with AA. It is doubtful they would join OW with RJ already the Middle Eastern carrier. It's a shame, though.
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EY have had a relationship with QF, terminated for VA instead, and now a relationship with AA. It is doubtful they would join OW with RJ already the Middle Eastern carrier. It's a shame, though.
RJ is more of a regional airline in the middle east much like a lot of those smaller European carriers are for some alliances. I think there would be plenty of room for Etihad to join OW. I think OW would be the best fit, but as Middle Eastern airlines have the ball in their court I think Etihad may wait till Emirates feels they have to join an alliance to stay competive and then join an opposing alliance.
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I don't see Emirates joining any alliance anytime soon, if ever.
If it does join, it is too big an airline and competes with too many players to join StarAlliance.
Hence will prob go with OW or ST.

If that is the case, EY will prob go with StarAlliance.

I was wondering if there were any rumors about EY thinking of joining anything.
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Old Nov 29, 11, 11:21 pm   #6
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I don't see Emirates joining any alliance anytime soon, if ever.
No, EK is not going considering to join any alliance in a distant the future.
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Old Nov 29, 11, 11:59 pm   #7
 
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I do not think EY would join any alliance.

All the 3 big middle-eastern airlines - EY, EK and QR focus on transit traffic, competing with European and Asian carriers. Thus I think they add very little value to an alliance. There are very few destinations that are covered by these 3 airlines and not covered by any of the 3 major alliances.

If at all they do join, considering the relationship they have with AA, MH, I'd say oneworld is a good bet.
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Old Nov 30, 11, 12:19 am   #8
 
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I don't see Emirates joining any alliance anytime soon, if ever.
If it does join, it is too big an airline and competes with too many players to join StarAlliance.
Hence will prob go with OW or ST.

If that is the case, EY will prob go with StarAlliance.

I was wondering if there were any rumors about EY thinking of joining anything.
I see the issue kinda in the same way. I think EY could join *A way before any decision is made by EK.
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Seeing as EY is currently pursuing a strategy of taking stakes in other European and Asian carriers, I think they are still a long, long way from even considering joining an alliance.

There may come a time when EY can no longer grow organically, and it may then become an issue for them. But right now, the costs of joining an alliance would far outweigh the benefits for EY. Any of the alliances would be glad to have EY, but it's not yet the right time for EY to join one.
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I do not think EY would join any alliance.

All the 3 big middle-eastern airlines - EY, EK and QR focus on transit traffic, competing with European and Asian carriers. Thus I think they add very little value to an alliance. There are very few destinations that are covered by these 3 airlines and not covered by any of the 3 major alliances.

If at all they do join, considering the relationship they have with AA, MH, I'd say oneworld is a good bet.
I agree completely with above argument
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If at all they do join, considering the relationship they have with AA, MH, I'd say oneworld is a good bet.
What about *A considering the relationship with NH, TK, NZ, TP, SN, BD
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What about *A considering the relationship with NH, TK, NZ, TP, SN, BD
True! The reason I did not mention *A was that I feel QR has a much better relationship with LH and UA, 2 of the major star players, though the partnership with LH ends soon. If at all one of these 3 were to join an alliance (very unlikely though), I feel QR might lean towards Star.

Another point to note is EY has a great partnership with VA, which is non-aligned, even after years of existence. Who knows, they might end up forming a 4th global alliance to compete against the major 3.
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Alliances aside, you can redeem AA miles on Etihad (assuming this week's developments don't change that.)
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Entry into one of the three global airline groupings is also unlikely, mainly because of concerns among older operators about the challenge presented by Middle East hubs, Hogan said.

“You never say never, but usually in each of the alliances there is somebody who is terrified of Gulf carriers,” he said.
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