How low can Delta go? Emirates
Feb 11, 2017, 1:47 am
#16
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Poor from Delta, but those who are "shocked" at this news have presumably little experience of doing business in the Middle East.... business/politics/social matters are all connected and issues on one domain affect everything else, anyone else remember the Canadian landing slots issue which led to a year long change in visa regime for Canadians ?
Feb 11, 2017, 2:17 am
#17
Join Date: Nov 2007
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Without knowing the exact part, it would be mere speculation. DL used a B777 for SEA-NRT-SIN up to a year ago.
Feb 11, 2017, 5:41 am
#18
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Actually, The largest AOG parts warehouse Boeing operates ANYWHERE in the world is across the street from Sea-Tac. If you've ever been landing to the south and sitting on the left side of the aircraft at the window you'd have seen it about 5 seconds before touching down.
http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/n...ns-global.html
http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/n...ns-global.html
DL should know what they have in stock, clearly AS had the part in the same center and allowed EK to use theirs. No need to go to Boeing HQ for spares, which is what I meant!
Feb 11, 2017, 10:46 am
#19
Join Date: Apr 2015
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Delta TechOps is mx contractor for several airlines including Delta.
If one of its own flight or customer flight gets cancelled, it is liable.
Social service gets less priority.
EK should be asking its mx contractor why they didn't stock the part, not whining and complaining about DL.
Also what happened to the theory that this route carries belly full of spares. May be they had one in the cargo hold.
If one of its own flight or customer flight gets cancelled, it is liable.
Social service gets less priority.
EK should be asking its mx contractor why they didn't stock the part, not whining and complaining about DL.
Also what happened to the theory that this route carries belly full of spares. May be they had one in the cargo hold.
Feb 12, 2017, 2:15 am
#20
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Feb 13, 2017, 12:48 am
#21
Join Date: Nov 2014
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Originally Posted by Bloomberg
While the part was sourced from Delta’s local engineering office and installed on the plane, a senior manager at the U.S. carrier’s Atlanta base later ordered that it be removed, it claims.
Feb 13, 2017, 4:52 am
#23
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Location: Middle Earth, and often worse
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"Delta shares parts with other airlines whenever possible through an industry agreement and doesn’t withhold them from any particular carrier, Delta spokesman Michael Thomas said. The item in question was the last spare of its kind in Delta’s Seattle inventory, and company policy requires that it keep the last one on hand in case Delta needs it, Thomas said."
Honestly, really don't blame Delta, given the friction between ME3 and the US legacy carriers.
Honestly, really don't blame Delta, given the friction between ME3 and the US legacy carriers.
Pretty short-sighted if you think about the reality and the engineering addage: ALL mechanical objects will fail - we just do NOT know where and when. BUT they will all fail eventually.
Feb 13, 2017, 4:55 am
#24
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It will cost more than $300 to reuse a $300 part. It is wise to just to ferry a new part on next scheduled commercial flight.
Feb 13, 2017, 4:56 am
#25
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Poor from Delta, but those who are "shocked" at this news have presumably little experience of doing business in the Middle East.... business/politics/social matters are all connected and issues on one domain affect everything else, anyone else remember the Canadian landing slots issue which led to a year long change in visa regime for Canadians ?
Feb 13, 2017, 8:01 am
#27
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 430
You are asking all right questions but to wrong party. EK should question ITS maintenance provider why this part was not stocked. May be EK's recent cost cutting measure.
One cannot demand a favor. Delta has no flights to Dubai, so it in need of a part from EK are pretty remote. Also there are lot other friendly airlines in middle east, including EY.
Feb 13, 2017, 8:55 am
#28
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Welcome to Delta.
But honestly, there aren't very many locations that DL and EK overlap except in the US. While petty on DLs part, I doubt there is very much EK could do in retribution. JNB would be the only 777 DL destination that overlaps with an EK presence, and even then, DL would probably get parts from AF/KLM.
But honestly, there aren't very many locations that DL and EK overlap except in the US. While petty on DLs part, I doubt there is very much EK could do in retribution. JNB would be the only 777 DL destination that overlaps with an EK presence, and even then, DL would probably get parts from AF/KLM.
Feb 13, 2017, 9:03 am
#29
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Welcome to Delta.
But honestly, there aren't very many locations that DL and EK overlap except in the US. While petty on DLs part, I doubt there is very much EK could do in retribution. JNB would be the only 777 DL destination that overlaps with an EK presence, and even then, DL would probably get parts from AF/KLM.
But honestly, there aren't very many locations that DL and EK overlap except in the US. While petty on DLs part, I doubt there is very much EK could do in retribution. JNB would be the only 777 DL destination that overlaps with an EK presence, and even then, DL would probably get parts from AF/KLM.
Anyway, not the point of the thread, sorry.
EDIT: Reference: http://www.gcmap.com/featured/20150921
Feb 13, 2017, 9:55 am
#30
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They don't fly 777s to any European cities? A quick search gives an outdated page on gcmap showing PVG, NRT, SYD and SIN as other cities with overlap, and SEA and LAX though SEA was mentioned as no longer being served by 777s by DL.
Anyway, not the point of the thread, sorry.
EDIT: Reference: http://www.gcmap.com/featured/20150921
Anyway, not the point of the thread, sorry.
EDIT: Reference: http://www.gcmap.com/featured/20150921
I'm a former DL flier, but since we moved to BWI, the only domestic places we fly are to BOS or LAS (B6 and WN respectively), and thus dropped DL.