Disruptive (drunk) passenger in F
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If you haven't seen Mel , you haven't lived ! I would try get a riot going at the gate and I'm sure you will see Mel ..... And the police
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Let's not conflate being disruptive and alcohol - there can be disruptive passengers on airlines that are completely dry.
IATA themselves say out of the reported cases to them only 23% involved alcohol or drugs.
The vast, vast majority of flights proceed normally with no incident. Alcohol is enjoyed - responsibly - by many, many, many more passengers.
To ban it as a response to increasing disruption incidents strikes me more as a moralising fulfilment exercise rather than a sensible, proportional response to an issue that is more efficiently fixed by enforcement of criminal and civil penalties (and banning passengers).
We see passengers getting into fights and abusive with crew because of seat recline, especially in economy. Should all economy seats - even on long haul and ultra-long haul - be fixed upright with no recline possible just because of the actions of a few? That is the analog of an alcohol ban.
IATA themselves say out of the reported cases to them only 23% involved alcohol or drugs.
The vast, vast majority of flights proceed normally with no incident. Alcohol is enjoyed - responsibly - by many, many, many more passengers.
To ban it as a response to increasing disruption incidents strikes me more as a moralising fulfilment exercise rather than a sensible, proportional response to an issue that is more efficiently fixed by enforcement of criminal and civil penalties (and banning passengers).
We see passengers getting into fights and abusive with crew because of seat recline, especially in economy. Should all economy seats - even on long haul and ultra-long haul - be fixed upright with no recline possible just because of the actions of a few? That is the analog of an alcohol ban.
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Dear Mr/Mrs Pax,
The crew aboard flight XX123 on XX/YY/ZZZZ have filed a complaint about you in relation to your behaviour, especially in view of the volume of alcohol you consumed. Your name has been added to a list in the Safer Airlines Alliance database and you will be denied alcohol on all flights in the alliance in perpetuity. Any attempt to circumvent this ban (e.g. by impersonating another passenger, bringing your own alcohol on board) or boarding any flight whilst intoxicated will result in a permanent ban from all airlines in the alliance.
Please consider your future conduct carefully as it may have a significant impact upon your leisure and business travel.
Yours sincerely,
XX Airlines.
That'd be a wake up call for someone to read once they're at home and sober.
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I've actually tazered someone, and while it was entertaining it certainly didn't stop the guy for more than about 2 seconds. Tazer training is 5% use of the device for restraint and then 90% what to do immediately after you've tazed someone. (The other 5% is about looking after the device, in case anyone cares).
As for allowing passengers to get busy with those tools? You'd never stop being sued for allowing untrained and potentially drunk people to do that.
[PS: I'm aware your post was tongue in cheek.]
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Drunk passenger in Court
A drunk plane passenger had to be tied to a seat with a mask over his mouth during a flight from Dubai to Birmingham....
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-38922438
Although the article does not specifically state that it was an EK flight, as far as I am aware EK is the only carrier to fly this route.
It will be interesting to see what punishment the Court gives him and if the airline bans him from future travel.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-38922438
Although the article does not specifically state that it was an EK flight, as far as I am aware EK is the only carrier to fly this route.
It will be interesting to see what punishment the Court gives him and if the airline bans him from future travel.
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A drunk plane passenger had to be tied to a seat with a mask over his mouth during a flight from Dubai to Birmingham....
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-38922438
Although the article does not specifically state that it was an EK flight, as far as I am aware EK is the only carrier to fly this route.
It will be interesting to see what punishment the Court gives him and if the airline bans him from future travel.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-38922438
Although the article does not specifically state that it was an EK flight, as far as I am aware EK is the only carrier to fly this route.
It will be interesting to see what punishment the Court gives him and if the airline bans him from future travel.
The irony in all of this is that passengers travelling from so-called Islamic countries (the UAE in this case) seem to be the ones getting drunk and causing mayhem more and more frequently these days, and ending up in the news.
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Could you give me a link to your research on this? Or is it an alternative fact?
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It's an alternative fact, based on stories that make the news.
http://bfy.tw/A0ZZ
Notice the dates of most of the stories. They're all relatively recent. 10 years ago you would never have heard of a drunk passenger being abusive on any airline based in an Islamic country. Now there are several stories per year. EK has it's fair share too.
http://bfy.tw/A0ZZ
Notice the dates of most of the stories. They're all relatively recent. 10 years ago you would never have heard of a drunk passenger being abusive on any airline based in an Islamic country. Now there are several stories per year. EK has it's fair share too.
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And another one!
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It's an alternative fact, based on stories that make the news.
http://bfy.tw/A0ZZ
Notice the dates of most of the stories. They're all relatively recent. 10 years ago you would never have heard of a drunk passenger being abusive on any airline based in an Islamic country. Now there are several stories per year. EK has it's fair share too.
http://bfy.tw/A0ZZ
Notice the dates of most of the stories. They're all relatively recent. 10 years ago you would never have heard of a drunk passenger being abusive on any airline based in an Islamic country. Now there are several stories per year. EK has it's fair share too.
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The irony is not so ironic given the pax profile is significantly British on EK: the UK binge drinking culture is well documented, even by official statistics:
https://www.ft.com/content/e0d5dd04-...b-1f8b0d268c39
Also, the passenger in question is from Birmingham.
Whilst I agree with you that the courts (and airlines) should take a tough line - you only have to do a quick google to find that the usual punishment for those brought before English courts is a custodial sentence.
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I also think that passengers should be able to sue people like this for the distress caused. The courts need to set examples and deliver extremely harsh punishments. I'm surprised this passenger didn't get a good kicking from the passengers and crew he threw his drinks over or spat at.
The irony in all of this is that passengers travelling from so-called Islamic countries (the UAE in this case) seem to be the ones getting drunk and causing mayhem more and more frequently these days, and ending up in the news.
The irony in all of this is that passengers travelling from so-called Islamic countries (the UAE in this case) seem to be the ones getting drunk and causing mayhem more and more frequently these days, and ending up in the news.
I think we get it, you don't like alcohol, especially not people who drink it on airlines, but please keep drama levels a bit lower.