Sep 14, 2017, 7:20 am
Last edit by: Flame3601
Information on Load requests
The number of seats for sale for a flight are available via ExpertFlyer.com, a subscription-based service with a 5-day free trial. A subscription is $9.99/month and can be enabled and disabled any time. It is encouraged to subscribe rather than post repeatedly in this thread.
NB: Op-up changes or overselling of a flight cannot be determined with certainty from this information, only inferred to be more or less probable.
For a once-off load request please follow these guidelines:
Flight loads >7 days out are not very useful, as the airline could still sell many seats, unless availability of a specific fare bucket (e.g. Business Saver upgrade) is requested. If you wish to know the general flight load please don't post >7 days before departure.
When requesting a load please provide the following information:
- Date of flight (departure date)
- Flight Number
- Origin
- Destination
These four fields are mandatory in searching on ExpertFlyer (see screenshot below) and it isn't fair to except those who pay for their subscriptions to also have to go look up which cities a specific flight number is from and to (also some flight numbers are onward flights (5th freedom routes, e.g. CMB-MLE) and loads will differ significantly depending on which sector of the flight is checked.
The number of seats for sale for a flight are available via ExpertFlyer.com, a subscription-based service with a 5-day free trial. A subscription is $9.99/month and can be enabled and disabled any time. It is encouraged to subscribe rather than post repeatedly in this thread.
NB: Op-up changes or overselling of a flight cannot be determined with certainty from this information, only inferred to be more or less probable.
For a once-off load request please follow these guidelines:
Flight loads >7 days out are not very useful, as the airline could still sell many seats, unless availability of a specific fare bucket (e.g. Business Saver upgrade) is requested. If you wish to know the general flight load please don't post >7 days before departure.
When requesting a load please provide the following information:
- Date of flight (departure date)
- Flight Number
- Origin
- Destination
These four fields are mandatory in searching on ExpertFlyer (see screenshot below) and it isn't fair to except those who pay for their subscriptions to also have to go look up which cities a specific flight number is from and to (also some flight numbers are onward flights (5th freedom routes, e.g. CMB-MLE) and loads will differ significantly depending on which sector of the flight is checked.
Flight Load Check request
Dec 30, 2016, 4:31 am
#16
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2010
Location: BOU
Posts: 110
Assuming I'm the absolute last on the standby list, everyone turns up, and they Op-up everyone to fill the aircraft and maximise revenue, I will get the last seat.
But I'm not sure they do this.
Assuming 2-4 people will no show, my chances increase slightly. On the assumption EY Op-ups everyone.
Anyone want to place a bet?
Dec 30, 2016, 4:34 am
#17
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Economy, mostly :(
Programs: Skywards Gold
Posts: 7,801
Ow. Ow. Ow.
Assuming I'm the absolute last on the standby list, everyone turns up, and they Op-up everyone to fill the aircraft and maximise revenue, I will get the last seat.
But I'm not sure they do this.
Assuming 2-4 people will no show, my chances increase slightly. On the assumption EY Op-ups everyone.
Anyone want to place a bet?
Assuming I'm the absolute last on the standby list, everyone turns up, and they Op-up everyone to fill the aircraft and maximise revenue, I will get the last seat.
But I'm not sure they do this.
Assuming 2-4 people will no show, my chances increase slightly. On the assumption EY Op-ups everyone.
Anyone want to place a bet?
5 staff listed, not 5 staff on standby. I think that's confirmed staff travel. There aren't any staff on standby at the moment. However IME EK does op-up to the last seat to accommodate revenue pax. I don't know if they would op-up an extra J-F and Y-J to accommodate a non-rev standby.
Dec 30, 2016, 11:52 am
#18
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 238
? We're talking about EK.
5 staff listed, not 5 staff on standby. I think that's confirmed staff travel. There aren't any staff on standby at the moment. However IME EK does op-up to the last seat to accommodate revenue pax. I don't know if they would op-up an extra J-F and Y-J to accommodate a non-rev standby.
5 staff listed, not 5 staff on standby. I think that's confirmed staff travel. There aren't any staff on standby at the moment. However IME EK does op-up to the last seat to accommodate revenue pax. I don't know if they would op-up an extra J-F and Y-J to accommodate a non-rev standby.
Dec 30, 2016, 12:00 pm
#19
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Economy, mostly :(
Programs: Skywards Gold
Posts: 7,801
Given current load if there are no no-shows there would be some J-F op-ups as well to accommodate just the revenue pax in Y, so they'd need to double-op-up (Y-J and separately J-F) to accommodate a non-rev, which seems unlikely to me.
Dec 30, 2016, 12:43 pm
#20
Moderator, Emirates
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Where My Heart Is
Programs: BAEC Silver, FB Platinum, KQ Asante Gold, Shebamiles Blue, Emirates Blue
Posts: 3,385
Hi Folks
Grateful if someone could help out. Departing PEK a bit earlier than originally planned. Tickets changed from Y Saver to Y Flex and have managed to bag an upgrade PEK-DXB. No availability at present for the DXB-GLA flight. Seatmap on Expertflyer (I know, I know) shows quite a few unassigned seats.
Grateful if someone could check loads for EK027 DXB-GLA 04/01/17.
On a side note. Miles upgrade PEK-GLA from Y Flex - 68,250 miles. PEK-DXB - 50,700. DXB-GLA - 39,000. Obviously will be checking very regularly to see if the upgrade becomes available and can then get the whole journey for the lower mileage.
Safe & Happy Travels
S
Grateful if someone could help out. Departing PEK a bit earlier than originally planned. Tickets changed from Y Saver to Y Flex and have managed to bag an upgrade PEK-DXB. No availability at present for the DXB-GLA flight. Seatmap on Expertflyer (I know, I know) shows quite a few unassigned seats.
Grateful if someone could check loads for EK027 DXB-GLA 04/01/17.
On a side note. Miles upgrade PEK-GLA from Y Flex - 68,250 miles. PEK-DXB - 50,700. DXB-GLA - 39,000. Obviously will be checking very regularly to see if the upgrade becomes available and can then get the whole journey for the lower mileage.
Safe & Happy Travels
S
Dec 30, 2016, 12:52 pm
#21
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Economy, mostly :(
Programs: Skywards Gold
Posts: 7,801
Hi Folks
Grateful if someone could help out. Departing PEK a bit earlier than originally planned. Tickets changed from Y Saver to Y Flex and have managed to bag an upgrade PEK-DXB. No availability at present for the DXB-GLA flight. Seatmap on Expertflyer (I know, I know) shows quite a few unassigned seats.
Grateful if someone could check loads for EK027 DXB-GLA 04/01/17.
On a side note. Miles upgrade PEK-GLA from Y Flex - 68,250 miles. PEK-DXB - 50,700. DXB-GLA - 39,000. Obviously will be checking very regularly to see if the upgrade becomes available and can then get the whole journey for the lower mileage.
Safe & Happy Travels
S
Grateful if someone could help out. Departing PEK a bit earlier than originally planned. Tickets changed from Y Saver to Y Flex and have managed to bag an upgrade PEK-DXB. No availability at present for the DXB-GLA flight. Seatmap on Expertflyer (I know, I know) shows quite a few unassigned seats.
Grateful if someone could check loads for EK027 DXB-GLA 04/01/17.
On a side note. Miles upgrade PEK-GLA from Y Flex - 68,250 miles. PEK-DXB - 50,700. DXB-GLA - 39,000. Obviously will be checking very regularly to see if the upgrade becomes available and can then get the whole journey for the lower mileage.
Safe & Happy Travels
S
Dec 30, 2016, 12:54 pm
#22
Moderator, Emirates
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Where My Heart Is
Programs: BAEC Silver, FB Platinum, KQ Asante Gold, Shebamiles Blue, Emirates Blue
Posts: 3,385
Dec 30, 2016, 1:10 pm
#23
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Economy, mostly :(
Programs: Skywards Gold
Posts: 7,801
While Y seat maps are pretty inaccurate I find J and F seat maps to be at least somewhat helpful in guessing loads. If there are several open J seats for example (e.g. >5) but J0 and Y0 to me this usually indicates oversell in Y, but of course it's more of an educated guess as there could be lots of stuff happening in the background that you can't see
Dec 30, 2016, 1:21 pm
#24
Moderator, Emirates
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Where My Heart Is
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While Y seat maps are pretty inaccurate I find J and F seat maps to be at least somewhat helpful in guessing loads. If there are several open J seats for example (e.g. >5) but J0 and Y0 to me this usually indicates oversell in Y, but of course it's more of an educated guess as there could be lots of stuff happening in the background that you can't see
Fingers crossed and strangely enough, when I done a dummy booking on Thursday night, said Y was sold out for those flights so I don't know if the Gold guaranteed seat was used by my company. I would like to spend the miles so that I can get baggage confirmed & CD for my arrival but I wouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth if I got a beep at boarding
S
Dec 30, 2016, 1:36 pm
#25
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Economy, mostly :(
Programs: Skywards Gold
Posts: 7,801
I counted 22 unassigned seats including blocked/bassinet seats and zero seats unassigned in F.
Fingers crossed and strangely enough, when I done a dummy booking on Thursday night, said Y was sold out for those flights so I don't know if the Gold guaranteed seat was used by my company. I would like to spend the miles so that I can get baggage confirmed & CD for my arrival but I wouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth if I got a beep at boarding
S
Fingers crossed and strangely enough, when I done a dummy booking on Thursday night, said Y was sold out for those flights so I don't know if the Gold guaranteed seat was used by my company. I would like to spend the miles so that I can get baggage confirmed & CD for my arrival but I wouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth if I got a beep at boarding
S
Dec 30, 2016, 1:42 pm
#26
Moderator, Emirates
Join Date: Oct 2012
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. So how come on a dummy booking done less than 24 hours previously for the same flights showed as all sold out? I'll keep my fingers crossed anyway 
S
Dec 30, 2016, 1:47 pm
#27
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Economy, mostly :(
Programs: Skywards Gold
Posts: 7,801
A lot can happen in 24 hours. Also if you changed it via phone perhaps they could force it through.
Dec 30, 2016, 1:58 pm
#28
Moderator, Emirates
Join Date: Oct 2012
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Dec 30, 2016, 2:19 pm
#29
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Economy, mostly :(
Programs: Skywards Gold
Posts: 7,801
Dec 30, 2016, 3:19 pm
#30
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 5,454
Ow. Ow. Ow.
Assuming I'm the absolute last on the standby list, everyone turns up, and they Op-up everyone to fill the aircraft and maximise revenue, I will get the last seat.
But I'm not sure they do this.
Assuming 2-4 people will no show, my chances increase slightly. On the assumption EY Op-ups everyone.
Anyone want to place a bet?
Assuming I'm the absolute last on the standby list, everyone turns up, and they Op-up everyone to fill the aircraft and maximise revenue, I will get the last seat.
But I'm not sure they do this.
Assuming 2-4 people will no show, my chances increase slightly. On the assumption EY Op-ups everyone.
Anyone want to place a bet?
However, EK also sometimes offload non-revs even with available seats in order to accept other payload so even if there are seats there may not be space, unfortunately.
