Last edit by: ZRHMD11
01 January 2017
MAN (EK021/022) from daily B77W to daily A380
BHX (EK037/038) from daily 2-class B77W to daily 2-class A380
BHX (EK039/040) from daily 2-class A380 to daily 2-class B77W
DUB (EK163/164) from daily 3-class B77W to daily 2-class B77W
BCN (EK185/186) from daily A380 to daily B77W
BCN (EK187/188) from daily A380 to daily B77W (since 21DEC)
BKK (EK370/371) from daily 2-class B77W to daily 2-class A380
ALG (EK757/758) from 5 weekly to 6 weekly with B77W
BAH (EK837/838) from daily EQV to daily B77W
06 January 2017
CMB SIN (EK348/349) route restricted to DXB CMB (until 01APR)
CMB (EK654/655) flight suspended (until 01APR)
01 February 2017
BUD (EK111/112) from daily B773 to daily 2-class B77W
BCN (EK185/186) from daily B77W to daily A380
KUL (EK346/347) from daily A380 to daily 2-class A380
JNB (EK761/762) from daily B77W to daily A380
12 March 2017
ATH (EK105/106) terminator service suspended
ATH EWR (EK209/210) new daily with B77W
26 March 2017
FCO (EK095/096) from daily A380 to daily B77W
FCO (EK099/100) third daily service reinstated with B77W
LCA ATH (EK107/108) five weekly routing suspended
LCA MLA (EK109/110) reinstated daily routing with B77W
BCN (EK187/188) from daily B77W to daily A380
LAX (EK217/218) from daily A380 to daily B77L
GIG EZE (EK247/248) from daily B77L to daily B77W
GRU (EK261/262) from daily B77W to daily A380
NRT (EK318/319) from daily B77W to daily A380
PER (EK424/425) from daily A380 to daily B77W
SEZ (EK707/708) from daily B77L to daily B77W
TUN (EK747/748) reinstated five weekly service with B77W
MLA TUN (EK749) five weekly routing suspended
CMN (EK751/752) from daily B77W to daily A380
JNB (EK763/764) from daily B77W to daily A380
LAD (EK793/794) from daily B77W to daily B77L
03 April 2017
JNB (EK761/762) from daily A380 to B77W
01 May 2017
ATH (EK103/104) new second daily with B77W
LAX (EK217/218) flight suspended
01 June 2017
ZAG (EK129/130) new daily with B77W
FLL (EK213/214) from daily to 5 weekly B77L
MCO (EK219/220) from daily to 5 weekly B77W
SEA (EK227/228) flight suspended
BOS (EK239/240) flight suspended
INC CGO (EK326/327) from 4 weekly to 3 weekly B77L
NBO (EK717/718) new third daily with B77W
06 June 2017
DOH all flights suspended
01 July 2017
CDG (EK071/072) from 3-class A380 to 2-class A380
NCE (EK077/078) from daily B77W to daily A380
GVA (EK083/084) from daily B77W to daily B77L
PVG (EK304/305) from daily B77W to daily A380
PEK (EK308/309) from daily B77W to daily A380
DPS (EK360/361) new second daily with 2-class B77W
RGN PNH (EK388/389) new daily with 2-class B77W
HAN (EK394/395) new terminator with 2-class B77W
07 July 2017
ICN (EK328/329) new weekly with A380
10 July 2017
LAD (EK793/794) from 5 weekly to 3 weekly B77W (B77L from 27th July)
13 July 2017
SYD AKL (EK418/419) flight suspended
08 August 2017
KRT (EK733/734) from 5 weekly to daily B77W
01 September 2017
MUC (EK053/054) from daily A380 to daily B77W
MAD (EK143/144) from daily B77W to daily A380
MRU (EK703/704) from daily 3-class A380 to daily 2-class A380
BKK (EK370/371) from daily 2-class A380 to daily 2-class B77W
BHX (EK041/042) flight suspended
01 October 2017
TPE (EK366/367) from daily 2-class A380 to daily 3-class A380
BKK HKG (EK384/385) from daily 3-class A380 to daily 2-class A380
BKK (EK376/377) from daily 3-class A380 to daily 2-class A380
DME (EK133/134) from daily B77W to daily A380
29 October 2017
BHX (EK039/040) from daily 2-class B77W to daily 2-class A380
ATH (EK103/104) flight suspended
BRU (EK181/182) new second daily with B77W
CAI (EK925/926) from 3 weekly to daily B77W
ZAG (EK129/130) from daily to 5 weekly B77W
TUN (EK747/748) from 6 weekly to daily B77W
17 November 2017
MLE (EK660/661) new thrice weekly with B77W
01 December 2017
GVA (EK083/084) from daily B77L to daily B77W
BNE (EK430/431) new third daily with B77L
08 December 2017
ARN (EK155/156) new seasonal 3 weekly with B77W
13 December 2017
ALG (EK757/758) from 6 weekly to daily B77W
15 December 2017
LOS (EK781/782) flight resumption with daily B77W
ABV (EK785/786) flight resumption with four weekly B773
25 December 2017
MLE (EK660/661) from thrice weekly to daily B77W
01 January 2018
HND (EK312/313) from daily B77L to daily B77W
25 March 2018
HND (EK312/313) from daily B77W to 5 weekly B77W + 2 weekly B77L
MEL (EK408/409) from daily B77W to daily A380
ATH (EK103/104) flight resumption with daily B77W
SYD (EK416/417) new fourth daily with A380
08 June 2018
STN (EK33/34) new daily with B77W
MAN (EK021/022) from daily B77W to daily A380
BHX (EK037/038) from daily 2-class B77W to daily 2-class A380
BHX (EK039/040) from daily 2-class A380 to daily 2-class B77W
DUB (EK163/164) from daily 3-class B77W to daily 2-class B77W
BCN (EK185/186) from daily A380 to daily B77W
BCN (EK187/188) from daily A380 to daily B77W (since 21DEC)
BKK (EK370/371) from daily 2-class B77W to daily 2-class A380
ALG (EK757/758) from 5 weekly to 6 weekly with B77W
BAH (EK837/838) from daily EQV to daily B77W
06 January 2017
CMB SIN (EK348/349) route restricted to DXB CMB (until 01APR)
CMB (EK654/655) flight suspended (until 01APR)
01 February 2017
BUD (EK111/112) from daily B773 to daily 2-class B77W
BCN (EK185/186) from daily B77W to daily A380
KUL (EK346/347) from daily A380 to daily 2-class A380
JNB (EK761/762) from daily B77W to daily A380
12 March 2017
ATH (EK105/106) terminator service suspended
ATH EWR (EK209/210) new daily with B77W
26 March 2017
FCO (EK095/096) from daily A380 to daily B77W
FCO (EK099/100) third daily service reinstated with B77W
LCA ATH (EK107/108) five weekly routing suspended
LCA MLA (EK109/110) reinstated daily routing with B77W
BCN (EK187/188) from daily B77W to daily A380
LAX (EK217/218) from daily A380 to daily B77L
GIG EZE (EK247/248) from daily B77L to daily B77W
GRU (EK261/262) from daily B77W to daily A380
NRT (EK318/319) from daily B77W to daily A380
PER (EK424/425) from daily A380 to daily B77W
SEZ (EK707/708) from daily B77L to daily B77W
TUN (EK747/748) reinstated five weekly service with B77W
MLA TUN (EK749) five weekly routing suspended
CMN (EK751/752) from daily B77W to daily A380
JNB (EK763/764) from daily B77W to daily A380
LAD (EK793/794) from daily B77W to daily B77L
03 April 2017
JNB (EK761/762) from daily A380 to B77W
01 May 2017
ATH (EK103/104) new second daily with B77W
LAX (EK217/218) flight suspended
01 June 2017
ZAG (EK129/130) new daily with B77W
FLL (EK213/214) from daily to 5 weekly B77L
MCO (EK219/220) from daily to 5 weekly B77W
SEA (EK227/228) flight suspended
BOS (EK239/240) flight suspended
INC CGO (EK326/327) from 4 weekly to 3 weekly B77L
NBO (EK717/718) new third daily with B77W
06 June 2017
DOH all flights suspended
01 July 2017
CDG (EK071/072) from 3-class A380 to 2-class A380
NCE (EK077/078) from daily B77W to daily A380
GVA (EK083/084) from daily B77W to daily B77L
PVG (EK304/305) from daily B77W to daily A380
PEK (EK308/309) from daily B77W to daily A380
DPS (EK360/361) new second daily with 2-class B77W
RGN PNH (EK388/389) new daily with 2-class B77W
HAN (EK394/395) new terminator with 2-class B77W
07 July 2017
ICN (EK328/329) new weekly with A380
10 July 2017
LAD (EK793/794) from 5 weekly to 3 weekly B77W (B77L from 27th July)
13 July 2017
SYD AKL (EK418/419) flight suspended
08 August 2017
KRT (EK733/734) from 5 weekly to daily B77W
01 September 2017
MUC (EK053/054) from daily A380 to daily B77W
MAD (EK143/144) from daily B77W to daily A380
MRU (EK703/704) from daily 3-class A380 to daily 2-class A380
BKK (EK370/371) from daily 2-class A380 to daily 2-class B77W
BHX (EK041/042) flight suspended
01 October 2017
TPE (EK366/367) from daily 2-class A380 to daily 3-class A380
BKK HKG (EK384/385) from daily 3-class A380 to daily 2-class A380
BKK (EK376/377) from daily 3-class A380 to daily 2-class A380
DME (EK133/134) from daily B77W to daily A380
29 October 2017
BHX (EK039/040) from daily 2-class B77W to daily 2-class A380
ATH (EK103/104) flight suspended
BRU (EK181/182) new second daily with B77W
CAI (EK925/926) from 3 weekly to daily B77W
ZAG (EK129/130) from daily to 5 weekly B77W
TUN (EK747/748) from 6 weekly to daily B77W
17 November 2017
MLE (EK660/661) new thrice weekly with B77W
01 December 2017
GVA (EK083/084) from daily B77L to daily B77W
BNE (EK430/431) new third daily with B77L
08 December 2017
ARN (EK155/156) new seasonal 3 weekly with B77W
13 December 2017
ALG (EK757/758) from 6 weekly to daily B77W
15 December 2017
LOS (EK781/782) flight resumption with daily B77W
ABV (EK785/786) flight resumption with four weekly B773
25 December 2017
MLE (EK660/661) from thrice weekly to daily B77W
01 January 2018
HND (EK312/313) from daily B77L to daily B77W
25 March 2018
HND (EK312/313) from daily B77W to 5 weekly B77W + 2 weekly B77L
MEL (EK408/409) from daily B77W to daily A380
ATH (EK103/104) flight resumption with daily B77W
SYD (EK416/417) new fourth daily with A380
08 June 2018
STN (EK33/34) new daily with B77W
Emirates New Routes and Changes 2017
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Didn't QR announce they were looking into ATH-US flights about a year ago or so? It seems that ATH airport has been looking at year-round options for some time and that EK has stepped in. Should be a relatively low-risk expansion for them, too.
Q: Do we know whether ATH will now be 3x daily? Or is this new flight replacing EK 105?
Q: Do we know whether ATH will now be 3x daily? Or is this new flight replacing EK 105?
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Not true!
Originally Posted by Bloomberg (March 2016)
Tim Clark, the company’s president, said last year that Emirates was looking at fifth-freedom opportunities and that Greece had asked it to consider extending flights from Dubai to the U.S., which has no Athens service. Proposals from the U.A.E. for Swiss flights to carry on to Mexico may be resolved this month, the Swiss Federal Office of Civil Aviation said Thursday.
Originally Posted by Skift (July 2015)
Following the success of Emirates’s Athens services, the Greek government has asked the Mideast carrier to consider extending the flights to the U.S. using so-called fifth freedom rights, Emirates President Tim Clark said last month. Its Dubai- Milan route already continues onwards from Italy.
Frach said there are no immediate plans for Greece-U.S. flights, while adding that Emirates will “work closely” with the Greek authorities to assess possible opportunities.
Only New York and Philadelphia are currently served direct from Athens, by Delta Air Lines Inc. and American Airlines Group Inc. respectively, with other locations requiring a stop in West European hubs. That’s “definitely not popular with the Greek diaspora in the U.S., or those U.S. clients wanting to join cruise ships in Piraeus,” Clark said.
Frach said there are no immediate plans for Greece-U.S. flights, while adding that Emirates will “work closely” with the Greek authorities to assess possible opportunities.
Only New York and Philadelphia are currently served direct from Athens, by Delta Air Lines Inc. and American Airlines Group Inc. respectively, with other locations requiring a stop in West European hubs. That’s “definitely not popular with the Greek diaspora in the U.S., or those U.S. clients wanting to join cruise ships in Piraeus,” Clark said.
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The same goes for Budapest, and Zagreb airports asking EK to start trans Atlantic services. We can even expect Zurich to join the club soon with Mexico City from what we have heard lately. Even Madrid, and Barcelona have been mentioned several times as potential trans Atlantic via points.
All EK are doing is filling in the vacuum.
All EK are doing is filling in the vacuum.
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Is JAL considered the best way to redeem on emirates at the moment? Redeeming for this flight (EWR to ATH) with emirates miles seems pretty expensive.
I wonder if they will launch any sort of biz class fare sales for 2 as they often do on the JFK to Milan route.
I wonder if they will launch any sort of biz class fare sales for 2 as they often do on the JFK to Milan route.
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DXB-ATH-EWR.
Err, wow. Kind of crazy that there's no daily USA-Greece service? Though some would interpret this as getting the last few planes in before Trumpism takes hold.
https://www.emirates.com/media-centr...ark-via-athens
Err, wow. Kind of crazy that there's no daily USA-Greece service? Though some would interpret this as getting the last few planes in before Trumpism takes hold.
https://www.emirates.com/media-centr...ark-via-athens
Emirates flight EK209 will depart Dubai at 10:50 local time, arriving in Athens at 14:25 before departing again at 16:40 and arriving into Newark at 22:00 on the same day. The return flight EK210 will depart Newark at 23:45 local time, arriving in Athens the next day at 15:05. EK210 will depart once again from Athens at 17:10 bound for Dubai where it will arrive at 23:50,
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I believe EK are targeting pax for the leg DXB-ATH-DXB and for the leg ATH-EWR-ATH.
If a pax wants to fly DXB-NYC-DXB, there are 3 daily non-stop flights.
If a pax wants to fly DXB-NYC-DXB, there are 3 daily non-stop flights.
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How's the pricing Ath to Newark?
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Why would EK go to EWR rather than JFK when they already have a base set up there? It is it a slot issue? Seems tough to now set up an infrastructure at a new airport just a few miles away from another? Does anybody know what lounge they will use?
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(1) Slots at JFK at the times EK wanted were unavailable / too expensive
(2) They wanted to avoid crowding at the JFK lounge and other facilities in the evenings
(3) Newark (and/or the state of New Jersey) provided incentives to Emirates, and JFK didn't offer any.
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Because it's a sign of a mature airline to operate out of more than one metropolitan area airport
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Third NBO flight cancelled even before start??
"The Kenyan government has moved to bar Emirates (EK, Dubai Int'l) from increasing the frequency of its Dubai Int'l-Nairobi Jomo Kenyatta flights Kenya's Star newspaper has reported.
The Dubai-based carrier announced on January 19 that effective June 1, it would introduce a third daily flight between Dubai and the Kenyan capital - EK 717/718 - using B777-300(ER) equipment. The added flight would increase the total number of scheduled Emirates flights between the two cities to twenty-one per week.
However, quoting a letter from Transport Principal Secretary Irungu Nyakera to Emirates' Nairobi executive secretary, Carolyne Kyule, dated January 20, 2017, the report says the suspension of the flight's rights came after informal talks between the Kenyan and UAE civil aviation regulators.
Kenya is said to be seeking a review of the terms of its Bilateral Air Service Agreement with the United Arabs Emirates, "in order to ensure parity in the exercise of rights granted".
"In this regard, the republic of Kenya is unable to grant a third daily passenger frequency to Emirates Airline before the review," it said. "Our earlier approval for flight EK 717/718 is subsequently withdrawn."
As of January 26, EK717 is still available on the Emirates website suggesting further consultations between the sides are ongoing.
According to the ch-aviation capacity module, the Nairobi-Dubai market is currently controlled by Emirates with 5,040 weekly seats (49.89%), almost double that of Kenya Airways (KQ, Nairobi Jomo Kenyatta) which has just 2,653. The addition of the third daily flight in June will further skew the market in Emirates' favour driving its weekly seating total to 6,480 or 62.33% of the total market. "
"The Kenyan government has moved to bar Emirates (EK, Dubai Int'l) from increasing the frequency of its Dubai Int'l-Nairobi Jomo Kenyatta flights Kenya's Star newspaper has reported.
The Dubai-based carrier announced on January 19 that effective June 1, it would introduce a third daily flight between Dubai and the Kenyan capital - EK 717/718 - using B777-300(ER) equipment. The added flight would increase the total number of scheduled Emirates flights between the two cities to twenty-one per week.
However, quoting a letter from Transport Principal Secretary Irungu Nyakera to Emirates' Nairobi executive secretary, Carolyne Kyule, dated January 20, 2017, the report says the suspension of the flight's rights came after informal talks between the Kenyan and UAE civil aviation regulators.
Kenya is said to be seeking a review of the terms of its Bilateral Air Service Agreement with the United Arabs Emirates, "in order to ensure parity in the exercise of rights granted".
"In this regard, the republic of Kenya is unable to grant a third daily passenger frequency to Emirates Airline before the review," it said. "Our earlier approval for flight EK 717/718 is subsequently withdrawn."
As of January 26, EK717 is still available on the Emirates website suggesting further consultations between the sides are ongoing.
According to the ch-aviation capacity module, the Nairobi-Dubai market is currently controlled by Emirates with 5,040 weekly seats (49.89%), almost double that of Kenya Airways (KQ, Nairobi Jomo Kenyatta) which has just 2,653. The addition of the third daily flight in June will further skew the market in Emirates' favour driving its weekly seating total to 6,480 or 62.33% of the total market. "