Extra fees for onboard upgrade?
#31
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Course there is the expectation
You do not donate the miles and then request an upgrade which you may or may not get
The miles are only used once the upgrade has been agreed upon at which point the upgrade is confirmed. No different to upgrades in advance
You do not donate the miles and then request an upgrade which you may or may not get
The miles are only used once the upgrade has been agreed upon at which point the upgrade is confirmed. No different to upgrades in advance
#32
Join Date: Aug 2012
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Exactly. The only two ways you can travel in F on a Y fare are these:
1. You upgrade to J using miles before and then try an on-board upgrade to F using miles.
2. You get a complementary op-up to J and then try an on-board upgrade to F using miles.
Based on my (very limited) conversations with EK pursers, I don't think this is possible *now* (and I'd love to be proven wrong) as pursers can only upgrade you 1 class higher - it is not based on the Purser's discretion anymore. The only thing he may overlook as points 1 & 2 above, and allow you the upgrade even though you've either upgraded with miles already or got the comp op-up.
It would be interesting to hear someone's experience who has successfully managed to upgrade 2 classes on board recently. If yes, that's where I might burn up all my miles.
1. You upgrade to J using miles before and then try an on-board upgrade to F using miles.
2. You get a complementary op-up to J and then try an on-board upgrade to F using miles.
Based on my (very limited) conversations with EK pursers, I don't think this is possible *now* (and I'd love to be proven wrong) as pursers can only upgrade you 1 class higher - it is not based on the Purser's discretion anymore. The only thing he may overlook as points 1 & 2 above, and allow you the upgrade even though you've either upgraded with miles already or got the comp op-up.
It would be interesting to hear someone's experience who has successfully managed to upgrade 2 classes on board recently. If yes, that's where I might burn up all my miles.
I can't spend my miles either!
#33
Join Date: Aug 2012
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Exactly. The only two ways you can travel in F on a Y fare are these:
1. You upgrade to J using miles before and then try an on-board upgrade to F using miles.
2. You get a complementary op-up to J and then try an on-board upgrade to F using miles.
Based on my (very limited) conversations with EK pursers, I don't think this is possible *now* (and I'd love to be proven wrong) as pursers can only upgrade you 1 class higher - it is not based on the Purser's discretion anymore. The only thing he may overlook as points 1 & 2 above, and allow you the upgrade even though you've either upgraded with miles already or got the comp op-up.
It would be interesting to hear someone's experience who has successfully managed to upgrade 2 classes on board recently. If yes, that's where I might burn up all my miles.
1. You upgrade to J using miles before and then try an on-board upgrade to F using miles.
2. You get a complementary op-up to J and then try an on-board upgrade to F using miles.
Based on my (very limited) conversations with EK pursers, I don't think this is possible *now* (and I'd love to be proven wrong) as pursers can only upgrade you 1 class higher - it is not based on the Purser's discretion anymore. The only thing he may overlook as points 1 & 2 above, and allow you the upgrade even though you've either upgraded with miles already or got the comp op-up.
It would be interesting to hear someone's experience who has successfully managed to upgrade 2 classes on board recently. If yes, that's where I might burn up all my miles.
I think you'd need a little luck to do it but defo worth a try as it doesn't seem clear on the system.
#34
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Wow, that's great! Good Show^ Will definitely try and give it a shot on my next flight.
#35
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I'm going to say it really is hit and miss - I think if she'd known at the start she would not have done it (she thought she could but later read the manual and said it wasn't allowed). One issue was the meals as 2 last min bookings came from no-where but got my choices. It was put through as an exception.
#36
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: France
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But on their onboard video, about Emirates Skywards, you can see a nice lady sitting on an economy seat, which becomes a First class suite and it is said "you can upgrade with your miles".
But you can't from Y to F.
So, do they lie on the video ?
But you can't from Y to F.
So, do they lie on the video ?
#37
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You can upgrade with your miles - they don't state that you can upgrade from economy to 1st ( which I think you can do if only those 2 cabins exist )
as far as animation goes, it shows a seat turning into a sun lounger and I dont think that anyone expects that to happen in real life
#38
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No they don't
You can upgrade with your miles - they don't state that you can upgrade from economy to 1st ( which I think you can do if only those 2 cabins exist )
as far as animation goes, it shows a seat turning into a sun lounger and I dont think that anyone expects that to happen in real life
You can upgrade with your miles - they don't state that you can upgrade from economy to 1st ( which I think you can do if only those 2 cabins exist )
as far as animation goes, it shows a seat turning into a sun lounger and I dont think that anyone expects that to happen in real life
And I might claim the APD back that I paid for the D class seat I never got!
#39
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: France
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So it gives the impression that you can upgrade from Y to F with your miles, which is not true.
#40
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#41
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If you were to believe the animation as detailing exactly what can be done, then you would be expecting the seat to morph from an economy seat to a 1st class one and then to morph into a sunlounger