Carryon baggage allowance? ...!!
#121
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,645
https://www.luggageonline.com/travel...d-restrictions
This site has a bit more data and seems to suggest that limits are lower in Africa/Middle East than Americas/Europe, on average, and that Asia has a lot of variability.
I think enforcement is the key comparative point, though, because I've flown on many of these global airlines with my standard carry-on configuration and have never once had my hand baggage weighed. So, in practice, in my experience, EK is alone in actually weighing each bag and enforcing the most restrictive limits in the industry. From this list, I noticed only two airlines with a smaller limit than EK.
http://flyingwithfish.boardingarea.c...orld-airlines/
#122
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Economy, mostly :(
Programs: Skywards Gold
Posts: 7,801
This site shows that 40 lbs is the median and AF is the lowest at 26 lbs. EK's 7 kg rule comes to 15 lbs. It therefore seems EK is less than half the normal weight, and the "one item" makes matters more difficult. That point aside, I've never seen an airline that weighs carry on bags which are obviously smaller than the allowable size, so it seems EK is an outlier based on the "one bag only" rule, based on the weight rule, and based on the ruthless enforcement of those rules which is selectively applied based on departure airport.
https://www.luggageonline.com/travel...d-restrictions
This site has a bit more data and seems to suggest that limits are lower in Africa/Middle East than Americas/Europe, on average, and that Asia has a lot of variability.
I think enforcement is the key comparative point, though, because I've flown on many of these global airlines with my standard carry-on configuration and have never once had my hand baggage weighed. So, in practice, in my experience, EK is alone in actually weighing each bag and enforcing the most restrictive limits in the industry. From this list, I noticed only two airlines with a smaller limit than EK.
http://flyingwithfish.boardingarea.c...orld-airlines/
https://www.luggageonline.com/travel...d-restrictions
This site has a bit more data and seems to suggest that limits are lower in Africa/Middle East than Americas/Europe, on average, and that Asia has a lot of variability.
I think enforcement is the key comparative point, though, because I've flown on many of these global airlines with my standard carry-on configuration and have never once had my hand baggage weighed. So, in practice, in my experience, EK is alone in actually weighing each bag and enforcing the most restrictive limits in the industry. From this list, I noticed only two airlines with a smaller limit than EK.
http://flyingwithfish.boardingarea.c...orld-airlines/
And I've had my carry on weighed by many airlines.
#123
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 5,454
In Asia it's 5-8kg, Africa 7-12kg, South America 5-10kg, Oceania 5-10kg.
The main outliers globally are of course the major US airlines which have no limit apart from AA at 23kg.
So really, if you want to guarantee to carry heavy hand baggage on every flight, you've got to stick with the US3 or BA. I suspect FlyWorld is much more used to those carriers rather than others around the world - or has been lucky so far (as are most of us on FT, I think!) that airlines don't strictly enforce their rules.
http://carryonguy.com/airline-baggage-rules/
#124
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Economy, mostly :(
Programs: Skywards Gold
Posts: 7,801
BA have a 23kg limit per carry-on, but they are the exception in Europe along with U2's no limit (but very, very strict size limits). Most European airlines have a 8-12kg limit.
In Asia it's 5-8kg, Africa 7-12kg, South America 5-10kg, Oceania 5-10kg.
The main outliers globally are of course the major US airlines which have no limit apart from AA at 23kg.
So really, if you want to guarantee to carry heavy hand baggage on every flight, you've got to stick with the US3 or BA. I suspect FlyWorld is much more used to those carriers rather than others around the world - or has been lucky so far (as are most of us on FT, I think!) that airlines don't strictly enforce their rules.
http://carryonguy.com/airline-baggage-rules/
In Asia it's 5-8kg, Africa 7-12kg, South America 5-10kg, Oceania 5-10kg.
The main outliers globally are of course the major US airlines which have no limit apart from AA at 23kg.
So really, if you want to guarantee to carry heavy hand baggage on every flight, you've got to stick with the US3 or BA. I suspect FlyWorld is much more used to those carriers rather than others around the world - or has been lucky so far (as are most of us on FT, I think!) that airlines don't strictly enforce their rules.
http://carryonguy.com/airline-baggage-rules/
#125
Ambassador: Emirates Airlines
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 18,597
The BA limit of 23kg is plain stupid. But, they have a policy of not helping anybody with cabin baggage (H&S). In theory, they shouldn't even help out a little old lady with her small bag!
#126
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: United Kingdom
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As a frequent user of easyjet in Europe, I can confirm that Easyjet does not have any weight limit on hand baggage.
This makes life easy as I don't even have to bother to check in any bags.
(On a flexi fare, I am allowed 2 pieces of hand luggage).
This makes life easy as I don't even have to bother to check in any bags.
(On a flexi fare, I am allowed 2 pieces of hand luggage).
#128
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: The Netherlands
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#129
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,645
However, I fly globally, and rarely fly US3 on international routes, so my exposure to European and Asian airlines is significant. This is the first time I've flown Middle East/Africa.
I have also learned from this conversation that the key point is enforcement, not the rules themselves, but I still assert EK is an outlier both in the rules and the enforcement of those rules.
What makes me most upset about this is the selective enforcement. As stated in my original post, there's no question in my mind that almost half of all passengers I observed in the transit area at DXB had more luggage than would have been allowed for any passenger starting at DXB or re-entering DXB after a long layover city visit. Many of these clearly had the "international standard" of "one carry on and one personal item" which made it easy to assess. Many more had carry on bags that were so large (again, international standard) that there's no conceivable way they could weigh in at < 7 KG unless they were either empty or filled with styrofoam.
#130
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Manchester, United Kingdom
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Regarding BA's allowance... It's brilliant but can be a nightmare for short haul, which is a what a lot of passengers do to connect to their long haul flight out of LHR. Great if you have a little status and can board early. BA's long haul jets seem to have enough room for most, but again it pays to be able to board early, just so you know your bags are directly above you. For me, BA lost its shine when it increased the passenger density of its short haul aircraft. Emirates? Can be easily gamed as long as you're not flying out of MAN...
With Emirates economy, I see the opposite problem. I struggle to pack all the things I want, that really should be in the hand baggage, within the Emirates limitations, but space is usually not an issue. If my next trip must be economy, then I naturally try to avoid Emirates. Of course there are always risks. BA has its higher density short haul cabins, while AF/KLM have have a decent official allowance while using FlyBe as a partner for short haul!
With Emirates economy, I see the opposite problem. I struggle to pack all the things I want, that really should be in the hand baggage, within the Emirates limitations, but space is usually not an issue. If my next trip must be economy, then I naturally try to avoid Emirates. Of course there are always risks. BA has its higher density short haul cabins, while AF/KLM have have a decent official allowance while using FlyBe as a partner for short haul!
#131
Join Date: Sep 2008
Programs: American AAdvantage
Posts: 1,045
I'll have one checked luggage (<23kg) and one carryon which I'm trying to get from 9kg down to 7kg. Since I'm flying DFW-DXB-MRU in Y tomorrow, I'll prepare myself in case I've to check the carryon. Fortunately, I plan to check both on my return to the States.
#134
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: SIN
Programs: EK Blue, EY Guest, AA, QR
Posts: 288
Was travelling ex-DXB, had my carry-on measured before immigration, was told 10 kg was not allowed, had to be 7, and so I had to check it in, paying extra check in fees for the entire amount
Got angry as if I knew before baggage checkin I could have easily transferred 3 kg to the checked in baggage.
But lesson well learnt
Got angry as if I knew before baggage checkin I could have easily transferred 3 kg to the checked in baggage.
But lesson well learnt
#135
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Economy, mostly :(
Programs: Skywards Gold
Posts: 7,801
Was travelling ex-DXB, had my carry-on measured before immigration, was told 10 kg was not allowed, had to be 7, and so I had to check it in, paying extra check in fees for the entire amount
Got angry as if I knew before baggage checkin I could have easily transferred 3 kg to the checked in baggage.
But lesson well learnt
Got angry as if I knew before baggage checkin I could have easily transferred 3 kg to the checked in baggage.
But lesson well learnt