Rip Off Emirates
May 2, 2012, 5:47 pm
#16
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: USA
Programs: SQ PPS SOLITAIRE, AA ,HHONOR GOLD, BONVOY GOLD, IHG PLAT
Posts: 2,041
I am maybe 2 for ~25 J>F as well on flights to/from USWC. My last name starts with a "K". But that's not the issue on J/F upgrades I am sure.
May 2, 2012, 10:07 pm
#17
Join Date: May 2010
Location: BOM
Programs: EK Plat, HHonors Gold
Posts: 2,882
May 3, 2012, 12:14 pm
#18
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: West Coast, USA
Programs: Skywards Platinum
Posts: 3,747
May 3, 2012, 12:44 pm
#19
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Programs: AMEX Cent AU, UA Plat, 9W Plat, Amtrak S+, HHonors Slv
Posts: 477
Isn't alphabetical based op-up's one of the stupidest concepts ever? Granted, I understand that an op-up is not a "published" benefit, but still...
I only say that because they're really not rewarding loyalty - if there was some way to sort via status miles or whatnot, they'd probably generate a lot of goodwill with their true high-rev FF's. Not to say that hgih-revs can't be early in the alphabet...
I only say that because they're really not rewarding loyalty - if there was some way to sort via status miles or whatnot, they'd probably generate a lot of goodwill with their true high-rev FF's. Not to say that hgih-revs can't be early in the alphabet...
May 3, 2012, 8:51 pm
#20
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 9,304
Isn't alphabetical based op-up's one of the stupidest concepts ever? Granted, I understand that an op-up is not a "published" benefit, but still...
I only say that because they're really not rewarding loyalty - if there was some way to sort via status miles or whatnot, they'd probably generate a lot of goodwill with their true high-rev FF's. Not to say that hgih-revs can't be early in the alphabet...
I only say that because they're really not rewarding loyalty - if there was some way to sort via status miles or whatnot, they'd probably generate a lot of goodwill with their true high-rev FF's. Not to say that hgih-revs can't be early in the alphabet...
May 9, 2012, 10:14 am
#21
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Programs: AMEX Cent AU, UA Plat, 9W Plat, Amtrak S+, HHonors Slv
Posts: 477
May 9, 2012, 10:31 am
#22
Join Date: May 2010
Location: BOM
Programs: EK Plat, HHonors Gold
Posts: 2,882
May 9, 2012, 12:25 pm
#23
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 723
Eightblack, there are plenty of op ups from Y to J on EK to the US WC. I think EK has decided to regularly oversell Y and upgrade to C. Seeing 5-10 people regularly upgraded to C is common. C to F upgrades are very rare. Not even 1 per flight IME.
Upon reviewing my original post, I meant to say that EK GOLD status is pretty useless on flights to/from the USWC when in paid business. If in Y, it gives you a great chance of an op up - agreed.
But I disagree that EK doesn't oversell on these flights due to weight restrictions. They do, but apparently only enough to fill up the J cabin.
I also see the same trend on flights to CCU (2 class). Y is regularly oversold, with the J cabin going out full due to the overspill.
Upon reviewing my original post, I meant to say that EK GOLD status is pretty useless on flights to/from the USWC when in paid business. If in Y, it gives you a great chance of an op up - agreed.
But I disagree that EK doesn't oversell on these flights due to weight restrictions. They do, but apparently only enough to fill up the J cabin.
I also see the same trend on flights to CCU (2 class). Y is regularly oversold, with the J cabin going out full due to the overspill.
May 9, 2012, 9:28 pm
#24
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Berlin
Programs: Meow Mix
Posts: 1,434
EK is a bit of a mixed bag for me.
LHR to MNL used to be around Ł2400 for J which I think is amazing compared to BA on CX code share used to offer circa Ł3600 - Ł4000.
Recently due to the YQ increase LHR to MNL is now circa Ł3200. Makes EY / GF even more attractive. Problem for me is that I NEED to be on an A380 or a 777 and it seems that EK will be choice despite the ridiculous increase!
AKL to SYD one way has also increased by around $200 AUD.
/AE
LHR to MNL used to be around Ł2400 for J which I think is amazing compared to BA on CX code share used to offer circa Ł3600 - Ł4000.
Recently due to the YQ increase LHR to MNL is now circa Ł3200. Makes EY / GF even more attractive. Problem for me is that I NEED to be on an A380 or a 777 and it seems that EK will be choice despite the ridiculous increase!
AKL to SYD one way has also increased by around $200 AUD.
/AE
May 9, 2012, 9:32 pm
#25
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: USA
Programs: SQ PPS SOLITAIRE, AA ,HHONOR GOLD, BONVOY GOLD, IHG PLAT
Posts: 2,041
Depends what you mean by 'regularly oversold' yes, EK oversells Y by anywhere between 15-19 seats, but do the the actual capacity of USWC aircraft having 304 in the back, the 15-19 seats that are oversold from Y are the within the capacity of Y since the aircraft is only sold with having 285 in Y, thus all 15-19 pax are still put in Y. But do to this, the premium cabins have to have the 15-19 seats open due to weight restriction. Therefore this doesn't always mean op-ups on USWC flights.
I would say it is somewhere around 70% easily. Again, this is based on my own experiences and observations.
May 9, 2012, 11:50 pm
#26
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: United Kingdom
Programs: Skywards Blue :-(, HHonors Gold, SPG Gold, GHA Platinum
Posts: 2,531
My op up rate ex DEL is 100% this year (y-j)
I flew this sector 3 times this year and got upped all 3 times.
My last name starts with W and so it is not on alphabetical order.
I am skywards gold. I always use miles to upgrade the DXB to DEL sector(sleeping time). Perhaps that counts ???
I flew this sector 3 times this year and got upped all 3 times.
My last name starts with W and so it is not on alphabetical order.
I am skywards gold. I always use miles to upgrade the DXB to DEL sector(sleeping time). Perhaps that counts ???
May 10, 2012, 1:12 am
#27
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: OSL
Programs: BA Gold | SK Gold | A3 Gold
Posts: 4,553
EK is a bit of a mixed bag for me.
LHR to MNL used to be around £2400 for J which I think is amazing compared to BA on CX code share used to offer circa £3600 - £4000.
Recently due to the YQ increase LHR to MNL is now circa £3200. Makes EY / GF even more attractive. Problem for me is that I NEED to be on an A380 or a 777 and it seems that EK will be choice despite the ridiculous increase!
AKL to SYD one way has also increased by around $200 AUD.
/AE
LHR to MNL used to be around £2400 for J which I think is amazing compared to BA on CX code share used to offer circa £3600 - £4000.
Recently due to the YQ increase LHR to MNL is now circa £3200. Makes EY / GF even more attractive. Problem for me is that I NEED to be on an A380 or a 777 and it seems that EK will be choice despite the ridiculous increase!
AKL to SYD one way has also increased by around $200 AUD.
/AE
May 10, 2012, 1:21 am
#28
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Berlin
Programs: Meow Mix
Posts: 1,434
Very bad OCD ung1 I way beyond the normal plane spotting profile when it comes to these types of aircraft.
I think I may need some professional help with the OCD (and if anyone is wondering... no I am not joking).
However I consider journeys on different types of aircraft at least once so that I can say I have been on them.
/AE
I think I may need some professional help with the OCD (and if anyone is wondering... no I am not joking).
However I consider journeys on different types of aircraft at least once so that I can say I have been on them.
/AE