I'm sure planning would like an upto date list too...
My understanding is that there will be a minimum of 10 aircraft arriving in the fiscal year 2009/10. 5x A380s and 5x B77Ws. I suspect there's more than 10 aircraft since 22 aircraft (11x B77W, 6x B77L and 5x A380) will (hopefully) be delivered in fiscal 2008/9.
The incremental A380s wont arrive until September 2009 at the earliest and will be part of the "Wave 2" delivery schedule so to some degree adjusted for recent delays. The schedule for the B77Ws hasnt been adjusted for late delivery of galleys and interiors or the recent Boeing strike and so likely there is some slippage.
In terms of the operating schedule there is likely +1 B773 aircraft that will be reintroduced as the refurbishment of this fleet should be completed in time for the start of the new fiscal year.
Will be interesting to see if Emirates postpones retirement of some older A330-200s given the aircraft shortage.
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Emirates777
Thank you for your reply but you forgot to answer my main question which was pertaining to EK's planned launch of new flights to Chicago O Hare Airport (ORD) in 2009. What is the latest on that front sir?
From your reply, it seems that new flights to ORD nonstop could be launched with a daily frequency using 2 B 77Ws due to the excess number (11) being delivered in the fiscal year 08-09.
Didn't Silverjet used operate 767 before? LTN should work fine with 2-class 330
Well, a 2 class A332 presents a slightly bigger challenge than a 3 class A332 and even a single business class equipped B762, as there are more passengers and therefore more weight. Also, there will be significantly more hold luggage and probably cargo on the EK A332 than the Silverjet B762.
Distance wise, DXB is about the same distance as EWR.
I would imagine it's possible but a bit on the tight side in terms of runway length. 08/26 is 2,160 metres. For the A332 to be able to take off without restrictions it needs a runway length of 2,220 metres roughly.
Will read all the above tomorrow and answer your comments guys...
Ill let you know this one thing tonight...
CPT will STOP within mths! press confrence will happen next week or beginning of OCT.
reason: CPT has no alt airport near buy.....which means alot of extra fuel is needed..not profitable...would have to double the price for the YC ticket...THEN would lose all PAX as they would just go to JNB. Also DUR is scrapped 100%...CPT also has issues with SA codeshare system..
CPT will STOP within mths! press confrence will happen next week or beginning of OCT.
reason: CPT has no alt airport near buy.....which means alot of extra fuel is needed..not profitable...would have to double the price for the YC ticket...THEN would lose all PAX as they would just go to JNB.
Then why do all the other airlines such as KLM, BA, SAA, Virgin fly to CPT? They surely have the same issues EK have?
On the JNB route - I wish EK makes the adjustment to get atleast one of the flights to arrive early AM like 7AM or thereabouts. This will enable customers to make easy connections to several destinations like Botswana, Zambia etc etc.,
Right now, the first flights gets in only at about 10:30 AM thereabouts - a bit late IMO.
On the JNB route - I wish EK makes the adjustment to get atleast one of the flights to arrive early AM like 7AM or thereabouts. This will enable customers to make easy connections to several destinations like Botswana, Zambia etc etc.,
Right now, the first flights gets in only at about 10:30 AM thereabouts - a bit late IMO.
I think it's to do with departure/arrival banks and waves. One bank is feed by primarily European, one bank is fed by primarily Asian/Indian etc. The 10:30 arrival leaves DXB at 04:25, to be fed by the 02:00 am arrivals from Asia.
Im beginning to. First of all, the dropping of CPT, if it happens, will be simply down to not enough revenue. To blame it on the lack of a diversion aerodrome is nonsense. Otherwise all the carriers would be pulling out of there, including BA, Virgin, KL etc. What about other airports around the world where EK fly and there isn't a nearby alternate?
Secondly, with regards Luton. That doesnt make a lot of sense. It's too close to Heathrow. Why would anybody fly out of there on an antiquated 332 when Heathrow is just down the road with multiple departures a day? Stansted would make more sense. The only possible advantage to Luton is that it's quieter than Heathrow, and EK could possibly make use of the empty ex-Silverjet private terminal. But then what a come down to then get on-board a 332.
you wait and see....
I cant speak for other airlines...but EK will pull out
ironic and sad at the same time lol
btw as per your previous post, am waiting for your replies to my questions and to those of others which you promised would be responded back to by today thanks a ton
Jet Boy said that CPT will be withdrawn and that an announcement will be made within weeks. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. I simply don't get the 'no aerodrome' argument, but if a bevy of other airlines are offering nonstop services from Europe then it could be a case of those airlines pricing EK out of the market. I don't know what factors are like but if EK ever pulls out of CPT, it's because they found a route that would make them more money using the a/c assigned to CPT.
Regarding LTN, it's a long shot and although I'd love to be able to/from Stansted, it would make strategic sense to expand at LHR, especially if it was a case of either or.
Jet Boy said that CPT will be withdrawn and that an announcement will be made within weeks. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. I simply don't get the 'no aerodrome' argument, but if a bevy of other airlines are offering nonstop services from Europe then it could be a case of those airlines pricing EK out of the market. I don't know what factors are like but if EK ever pulls out of CPT, it's because they found a route that would make them more money using the a/c assigned to CPT.
Regarding LTN, it's a long shot and although I'd love to be able to/from Stansted, it would make strategic sense to expand at LHR, especially if it was a case of either or.
I do not think that the main focus for EK's DXB-CPT route is traffic obtained from Europe but rather traffic obtained from the Far East (China, HKG, BKK and Japan in particular) plus India.
Im beginning to. First of all, the dropping of CPT, if it happens, will be simply down to not enough revenue. To blame it on the lack of a diversion aerodrome is nonsense. Otherwise all the carriers would be pulling out of there, including BA, Virgin, KL etc. What about other airports around the world where EK fly and there isn't a nearby alternate?
Secondly, with regards Luton. That doesnt make a lot of sense. It's too close to Heathrow. Why would anybody fly out of there on an antiquated 332 when Heathrow is just down the road with multiple departures a day? Stansted would make more sense. The only possible advantage to Luton is that it's quieter than Heathrow, and EK could possibly make use of the empty ex-Silverjet private terminal. But then what a come down to then get on-board a 332.
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Originally Posted by Emirates777
I'm sure planning would like an upto date list too...
My understanding is that there will be a minimum of 10 aircraft arriving in the fiscal year 2009/10. 5x A380s and 5x B77Ws. I suspect there's more than 10 aircraft since 22 aircraft (11x B77W, 6x B77L and 5x A380) will (hopefully) be delivered in fiscal 2008/9.
The incremental A380s wont arrive until September 2009 at the earliest and will be part of the "Wave 2" delivery schedule so to some degree adjusted for recent delays. The schedule for the B77Ws hasnt been adjusted for late delivery of galleys and interiors or the recent Boeing strike and so likely there is some slippage.
In terms of the operating schedule there is likely +1 B773 aircraft that will be reintroduced as the refurbishment of this fleet should be completed in time for the start of the new fiscal year.
Will be interesting to see if Emirates postpones retirement of some older A330-200s given the aircraft shortage.
Rgds
Emirates777
Cheers!
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Originally Posted by stallone
Thank you for your reply but you forgot to answer my main question which was pertaining to EK's planned launch of new flights to Chicago O Hare Airport (ORD) in 2009. What is the latest on that front sir?
From your reply, it seems that new flights to ORD nonstop could be launched with a daily frequency using 2 B 77Ws due to the excess number (11) being delivered in the fiscal year 08-09.
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Originally Posted by jiml1126
Didn't Silverjet used operate 767 before? LTN should work fine with 2-class 330
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Originally Posted by Mofomat
Well, a 2 class A332 presents a slightly bigger challenge than a 3 class A332 and even a single business class equipped B762, as there are more passengers and therefore more weight. Also, there will be significantly more hold luggage and probably cargo on the EK A332 than the Silverjet B762.
Distance wise, DXB is about the same distance as EWR.
I would imagine it's possible but a bit on the tight side in terms of runway length. 08/26 is 2,160 metres. For the A332 to be able to take off without restrictions it needs a runway length of 2,220 metres roughly.
As I meantioned earlier in the thread, Silverjet was restricted by 5 tons out of Luton to Newark with their B767-200s in a 100 seat config. The larger A330-200s may be more exciting but will perhaps have tailwinds over Europe no?
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Luton would be a very interesting prospect, especiall ahead of Stansted. 7,087ft runway will be interesting. Silverjet went out with a 5 ton weight penalty on cargo to Newark. Interesting how this will perform when/if it takes off.
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CPT will STOP within mths! press confrence will happen next week or beginning of OCT.
reason: CPT has no alt airport near buy.....which means alot of extra fuel is needed..not profitable...would have to double the price for the YC ticket...THEN would lose all PAX as they would just go to JNB. Also DUR is scrapped 100%...CPT also has issues with SA codeshare system..
news is fact!
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Anyone smell a rat?
I don't buy this. Price of oil has dropped dramatically, why cut CPT now on the cost of fuel & why has no one else reported this as a problem? What about other destinations like the seychelles, Perth ...
What about Durban scrapped 100% when there's the Football World Cup in 2010 (I thought it was supposed to be established & matured by then). I understood it was delayed due to lack of aircraft and/or high fuel prices no?
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with regards Luton. That doesnt make a lot of sense. It's too close to Heathrow. Why would anybody fly out of there on an antiquated 332 when Heathrow is just down the road with multiple departures a day? Stansted would make more sense. The only possible advantage to Luton is that it's quieter than Heathrow, and EK could possibly make use of the empty ex-Silverjet private terminal. But then what a come down to then get on-board a 332.
I call BS.
Slots are scarce out of Heathrow. Even with the extra capacity that A380s will bring, Luton would help ease the congestion, especially around the peak timed EK1/2 which is timed perfectly for connections at both ends. A Luton or Stansted flight would help serve strictly the London market. Luton is an untapped market which serves more areas of Northern London & cambridgeshire which is a very upmarket region. 3 class A330 whilst naff compared with the offerings out of Heathrow could be very successful.
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There's plenty of capacity out of LGW now too, with the demise of XL, nearly all the North Terminal American carriers gone, Zoom gone. I would say that Gatwick has more chance of expansion, particularly with the big lounge they've invested in.
