BOS > It's a seasonal destination down back with a consistant demand
Due to the abundance of educational establishments in the Boston area the city is the east coast version of Silicon Valley, albeit with a lower profile. corporate travel very high year round. DXB -BOS-SFO would be a winner
Due to Emirates being a foreign airline, it cannot sell BOS-SFO or SFO-BOS. However, it can sell tickets for DXB-BOS, DXB-SFO, SFO-DXB and BOS-DXB, unloading passengers at BOS in the outbound before terminating at SFO, and picking up passengers at BOS on their way back.
But since SFO is getting it's own daily non-stop 77L, then perhaps DXB-PHL-BOS?
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Third daily DXB-PER then onwards to AKL please.
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With better timings than the second one had!
Couldn't the current EK420 just fly onto Auckland. It would get in very early in the morning, beating all the other flights. I doubt there would be a need for a 3rd daily flight to PER & 4th daily to AKL especially with A380's arriving at the latter early next year*
EK have at least 2 daily flights into CGK, some days 3 and usually not full on the CGK-SIN sector. IF, they could get rights they would clean up by diverting one of these flights into DPS. There is a serious lack of capacity on the DPS-SIN route. This, for instance allows SQ to charge almost USD1000 for J Class return, a 2 hour flight. And it's difficult to get a seat!!
Qatar airways fly DPS-KUL but the departure time is 03:00A so that's not very practical. If EK could get in it would be great for customers and for EK.
I was in cgk in July, the ek staff at their office told me that ek has had permission from jakarta to fly to dps for the last 10 years! They must not be doing so due to paucity of aircraft for more profitable destinations. since I go to dps twice a year. I'd love it if ek'd compete with qr in this market. we might have to wait a while though. it makes it a hassle to have to land in kul or sin and take an lcc to dps. emirates 777 can you let'm know the the ek plannin' dept?
EK's been sitting on DPS rights (and valuable CGK-DPS) for 10 years. This means that their CGK services are doing well anyway. I'd love to see Emirates at DPS, then Cebu and it would be great if Emirates could begin adding a few Pacific Island destinations through codeshare (unless they wanna free up any spare Boeing 777-200LRs to do Tahiti runs lol). Codesharing's a great way to build up a network and EK needs to do this-it's basically the only large non-LCC airline left that's not part of an alliance.
I work within EK and love to share info as i get it.
This year only one more destination will be announced. Thats fact.
The destination is some what kept under raps right now but here in the office we are saying it will be CGP Chittagong Bangladesh. Rights are good, and staff there hired and should have A/C available in DEC.
when the 340-500 becomes available from SYD next year it will be places on NGO. and that 340-300 will be placed on CAN. Freeing up the 330 for a new destination next year.
Madrid wont happen this year or the next. Iberian flying to Dubai in July 09 so i think we will see how that goes.
New routes will happen and i should find out 2 more that will happen mid next year soon. But adding more flights to current destinations is more likely now. BHX afternoon flight will be 777 soon freeing up another 330. That 330 will be placed on a new BKK direct flight.
... cheers guys
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Hey guys!
I work within EK and love to share info as i get it.
This year only one more destination will be announced. Thats fact.
The destination is some what kept under raps right now but here in the office we are saying it will be CGP Chittagong Bangladesh. Rights are good, and staff there hired and should have A/C available in DEC.
more to come..
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After reading all your comments....
when the 340-500 becomes available from SYD next year it will be places on NGO. and that 340-300 will be placed on CAN. Freeing up the 330 for a new destination next year.
Madrid wont happen this year or the next. Iberian flying to Dubai in July 09 so i think we will see how that goes.
New routes will happen and i should find out 2 more that will happen mid next year soon. But adding more flights to current destinations is more likely now. BHX afternoon flight will be 777 soon freeing up another 330. That 330 will be placed on a new BKK direct flight.
... cheers guys
Hello Jet Boy! Welcome to FlyerTalk! It's great to have more people from within the organisations we gossip about.
I have a couple of queries...
1) EZE is due to be launched 2009 subject to fuel prices dropping. I can only presume that an A340-500 will be used, currently entertaining on the Ozzie routes. If the SYD aircraft is going to Japan, then will we have to wait for A380s to hit MEL before EZE opens up. Have I unwittingly discovered the next unannounced A380 destination?
2) You dismiss MAD so freely. Is this your personal or office opinion or is this an official Emirates statement? The current banks of flights from DXB to Europe tend to depart around 7/8am connecting with overnight flight from the East & returning around midnight for flights back to the East. The significance is that the flights land in Europe around midday & depart around 2pm, which is when Madrid is essentially at it's peak for flights to Latin America so Emirates could easily provide dozens of 1-stops to DXB. QR also fly MAD direction. Wouldn't that be a watch worth noticing since that's more of the market Emirates is competing for?
EZE wont happen next year now. Im 100 percent sure. The price of fuel has really made the 340-500's not so profitable. We are more than likely going to see the 340-500 used on GRU for a second daily. This would save alot of cash as they have already a set up'd based in Gru and the demand is high. Setting up a new base in EZE with only 250 plus pax per day is not profitable right now. The japanese market is really making GRU very profitable.
Nah we wont see the 380 in MEL till at least 2011. At least. Next destination we will see 380 is either BNE, MAN or FRA. MEL gets a 3rd daily 340-500 on the 1st of FEB now so the 3 daily flights will do for a few years EK says. PER will go back to 777-200 to free up the 340-500 for MEL. ZRH will continue to have the 340-500 as a back up for MEL and SYD. As if MEL or SYD goes TECH the 340-500 from ZRH will go to them and a 330 will go to ZRH.
on MAD....This is the office feeling and my personal opinion. Emirates would never place a statment out...would get leaked to easy in DXB haha
They are currently doing a study on pax loads from BCN and MAD to dubai..Trend is spanish people dont travel eastwards all the often as say others EU people do. Will see it but not for a few years..... Another russian destination? PRG? LCY? CPH? are Other EU destinations with studies currently under the way... second ATH, IST, DME VIE all start soon...so that will boost up asian flights and may even bring the need to add a additional KUL and HKG flights.
Hmm...again welcome JB you're going to be very popular around here soon...
Any chances of HBE (Alexandria) restarting soon? What about LCY? And wouldn't an A380 on MAN be overkill (too much)?
And finally...any developments in the new Terminal 3? Is everything going according to plan?
thanks guys.. Its good to be on here
A330 would be used on LCY. sadly. and same to for CPH
HBE...i have no news. A new daily CAI flight is on the cards so i would say not for a very long time for HBE. nah sure would not be over kill for MAN with A380..load factors are great and EK say its only thhe tip of the ice cube. So i we will see it there after LHR SYD AKL etc....
T3 to plan...haha well what can i say...its opening in stages not to prevent a LHR happening...i think its thr 15th of oct for GCC flights etc and then slowly more regions added. Go to gulfnews.com there was some details on there of exact locations.
cheers
Well, if one of your aircraft lands at LCY(london city), I wish you a lot of succes if you want your aircraft to land without ditching the water.....
The A330 will need approximately 5.500 feet of ashphalt to land.
LCY only has 5.000...
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Thanks for the welcome 777.
EZE wont happen next year now. Im 100 percent sure. The price of fuel has really made the 340-500's not so profitable. We are more than likely going to see the 340-500 used on GRU for a second daily. This would save alot of cash as they have already a set up'd based in Gru and the demand is high. Setting up a new base in EZE with only 250 plus pax per day is not profitable right now. The japanese market is really making GRU very profitable.
Nah we wont see the 380 in MEL till at least 2011. At least. Next destination we will see 380 is either BNE, MAN or FRA. MEL gets a 3rd daily 340-500 on the 1st of FEB now so the 3 daily flights will do for a few years EK says. PER will go back to 777-200 to free up the 340-500 for MEL. ZRH will continue to have the 340-500 as a back up for MEL and SYD. As if MEL or SYD goes TECH the 340-500 from ZRH will go to them and a 330 will go to ZRH.
on MAD....This is the office feeling and my personal opinion. Emirates would never place a statment out...would get leaked to easy in DXB haha
They are currently doing a study on pax loads from BCN and MAD to dubai..Trend is spanish people dont travel eastwards all the often as say others EU people do. Will see it but not for a few years..... Another russian destination? PRG? LCY? CPH? are Other EU destinations with studies currently under the way... second ATH, IST, DME VIE all start soon...so that will boost up asian flights and may even bring the need to add a additional KUL and HKG flights.
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thanks guys.. Its good to be on here
A330 would be used on LCY. sadly. and same to for CPH
HBE...i have no news. A new daily CAI flight is on the cards so i would say not for a very long time for HBE. nah sure would not be over kill for MAN with A380..load factors are great and EK say its only thhe tip of the ice cube. So i we will see it there after LHR SYD AKL etc....
T3 to plan...haha well what can i say...its opening in stages not to prevent a LHR happening...i think its thr 15th of oct for GCC flights etc and then slowly more regions added. Go to gulfnews.com there was some details on there of exact locations.
cheers
Interesting commentary. I remember reading that UAE-Brazil bilateral only allows 14 weekly flights on the UAE side (generous) & that the extra frequency should either go to GIG, rather than GRU which can be simply upgraded before EY nabs a daily Brazil frequency. What's the feasability of putting a B77W on GRU? Could EZE work as a tag on from GRU? Understandable that the price of fuel is going to influence a flight like this, but the press release states that the expansion will only take place if the price of oil drops (which it is).
2011 seems a bit off for MEL since Emirates should have 10-20 A380s by then. Again interesting that BNE is a priority over MEL.
MAN (2 class given the almost non-existant first class market) suggests that a regional/2 class config will be ready by then. Surely additional LHR or even LGW frequencies makes more sense. MAN currently double daily high-density B77Ws doesn't need the 3rd daily frequency since it wouldn't tie over the waves of traffic at DXB which is relevant to MAN. MAN serves the largest catchment area outside of London. Looking at the population density map (I know it doesn't match demand/yield/freight uplift etc...) but it's still a significant area which Emirates offers services from Liverpool/Blackpool, Manchester of course, Doncaster/Sheffield area, Peak District & even as far east as the Humber.
I'm not sure what you mean by LCY (London City) which has a 4,898ft runway & a 7.5 degree glideslope, the largest certificated type being the A318 & even that needing modifications! If it's more London airports then is it Luton or Stansted being considered?
Apologies for the grilling I appear to be giving. It's just so resourceful to have employees on the forum!!
