Would EK consider routing MIA through both MAD and LCY perhaps? That way they'd get another LON slot and the holiday traffic between UK and Florida. The MAD-MIA is just logical I think. But LCY could work for them.
Would EK consider routing MIA through both MAD and LCY perhaps? That way they'd get another LON slot and the holiday traffic between UK and Florida. The MAD-MIA is just logical I think. But LCY could work for them.
Now, this I would love to see. Sadly, I can't see any of EK's current fleet being certified to land at LCY.
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It's a good destination for Emirates-and remember that EK's low costs could make any city quite profitable-well, more profitable than say if BA flew DXB-SEA.
Is that a bet?
BA fly B747-400s with up to 70 Club World seats (take a look at a seatmap). They have gone after the high-yield passengers by having massive premium cabins & tiny economy cabins. They adopted this strategy around 200 when they introduced their new cabins including the first ever business flat-bed. As a result, even the economy fares are sky high. This is a complete contrast to Emirates who focus on seatmile costs which yes lowers costs, but they have a huge amount of economy capacity, an inferior hard product. It's all about lowering costs at Emirates & optimising capacity whereas on BA it's all about boosting yields.
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Would EK consider routing MIA through both MAD and LCY perhaps? That way they'd get another LON slot and the holiday traffic between UK and Florida. The MAD-MIA is just logical I think. But LCY could work for them.
The UK Florida market isn't a particularly pretty one. Aside from the potentially lucrative Miami link, the rest of it is bucket & spade. Currently it's covered mostly from Gatwick where Virgin & BA fly high-density aircraft on these links. Fares are skyhigh in season but very low (as are loads) out of season. Coupled with very competitive charter airlines it's not a great market for an airline such as Emirates which focuses on the maximum profit potential.
BA fly B747-400s with up to 70 Club World seats (take a look at a seatmap). They have gone after the high-yield passengers by having massive premium cabins & tiny economy cabins. They adopted this strategy around 200 when they introduced their new cabins including the first ever business flat-bed. As a result, even the economy fares are sky high. This is a complete contrast to Emirates who focus on seatmile costs which yes lowers costs, but they have a huge amount of economy capacity, an inferior hard product. It's all about lowering costs at Emirates & optimising capacity whereas on BA it's all about boosting yields.
I still stand by my theory that not only does EK have good traffic to push onto a plane bound for SEA, and yes, they're going to have more economy seats to sell, but I bet prices would ROCKET for Y.
However, I'm compelled to agree with you....and what's seatmile costs?
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The UK Florida market isn't a particularly pretty one. Aside from the potentially lucrative Miami link, the rest of it is bucket & spade. Currently it's covered mostly from Gatwick where Virgin & BA fly high-density aircraft on these links. Fares are skyhigh in season but very low (as are loads) out of season. Coupled with very competitive charter airlines it's not a great market for an airline such as Emirates which focuses on the maximum profit potential.
An EK DXB-MAD-LCY-MIA would NEVER work. First of all, an A332 would not be able to land at LCY. Secondly, traffic to Florida is seasonal. I suspect that during peak season DXB-MAD-MIA would be sold out while during softer times, well at least traffic to MAD will support the route.
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I still stand by my theory that not only does EK have good traffic to push onto a plane bound for SEA, and yes, they're going to have more economy seats to sell, but I bet prices would ROCKET for Y.
perhaps they will rocket for the wrong reasons eg. fuel lol
Would be nice little route for an A345 when they're freedup from Oz but I doubt Boeing would take kindly to that!
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Why no KTM
Does anyone know why EK has left KTM completely to QR.
It seems every other airline in the ME flies to KTM now. QR is now 12 flight a week - but we still don't se EK. and QR is more or less always heavy loads.
FWIW, currently Air Arabia, Etihad, Gulf Air, Qatar Airways fly to KTM from the Middle East region, along with FlyYeti and RA from KTM. Rumors that Oman Air will fly soon.
Kathmandu seems like a good option for the airline. Perhaps this would be an A330-200 route? Seems likely. At the mo', KTM is well servied and all airlines offer competitive products .
However, with the recent aircraft crisis, EK expansion is delayed yet again. The only thing they can seem to control is their T3.
Anyway, KTM as a destination would make commercial sense for the 'middle term'. Why not?
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Does anyone know why EK has left KTM completely to QR.
It seems every other airline in the ME flies to KTM now. QR is now 12 flight a week - but we still don't se EK. and QR is more or less always heavy loads.
FWIW, currently Air Arabia, Etihad, Gulf Air, Qatar Airways fly to KTM from the Middle East region, along with FlyYeti and RA from KTM. Rumors that Oman Air will fly soon.
I reckon you've answered your own question. Why bother entering a market with competiton from the whole of Asia. Baring in mind the smallest aircraft in the fleet is the A330-200 (much larger than competing airlines) & aircraft availabilty is short I doubt we'll see KTM in 2009 when there are more destinations in Europe etc. to be conquered.
Keeping in mind that Emirates have expanded their India network ....... I really do wish they look into adding Coimbatore (Kovai) as one of their India routes. This would allow all of us travellers from Coimbatore to access flights to or via DBX.
Welcome to FlyerTalk, safari_7. CJB would make an ideal candidate for a multi-weekly A330-200 to Dubai. Air Arabia offers flights to Sharjah, but none of the major legacies in the region (Gulf, Etihad, Qatar, Emirates) fly there.
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Haven't been on this board for a month or two, but it was meantioned about two weeks ago that Emirates plan to serve Amsterdam, Kiev, Durban, Buenos Aires, Algiers and Barcelona subject to the oil prices dropping. New aircraft deliveries (including A380s) should ensure a cascading effect down the fleet as A380s substitute B777s/A345s which in turn replace A330s/launch new routes etc. It's probably been posted somewhere but I'm surprised it isn't on the "dedicated thread"
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BOS > It's a seasonal destination down back with a consistant demand for corporate travel. It's not BIG enough to sustain flights, especially given the fares out of season on European carriers. PHL is sandwiches between Washington & New York. EWR is more likely that PHL sincec the New York market is obviously bigger.
Due to the abundance of educational establishments in the Boston area the city is the east coast version of Silicon Valley, albeit with a lower profile. corporate travel very high year round. DXB -BOS-SFO would be a winner
