EL AL 787 Master Thread
Apr 13, 2017, 12:51 pm
#18
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https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...-busin-436146/
http://www.sltrib.com/home/5125945-1...umbles-on-seat
Apr 13, 2017, 12:52 pm
#19
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222 seats in economy
32 Business
28 Premium Economy
222 Economy
total 282 pax
thats more than the 280 on the 777
6 - FIRST
35 Business
34 Economy Plus
204 Economy
(for comparison
AC have 298 on 787-9
AF has 276
AA has 285
KL has 294)
All these airlines have herringbone in business + premium economy)
One difference I see is that the others fit in 30 business class seats between doors 1 and 2 and EL AL only fits in 28 )
32 Business
28 Premium Economy
222 Economy
total 282 pax
thats more than the 280 on the 777
6 - FIRST
35 Business
34 Economy Plus
204 Economy
(for comparison
AC have 298 on 787-9
AF has 276
AA has 285
KL has 294)
All these airlines have herringbone in business + premium economy)
One difference I see is that the others fit in 30 business class seats between doors 1 and 2 and EL AL only fits in 28 )
Apr 13, 2017, 2:03 pm
#20
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It may be more in total, BUT it's 9 LESS in business and first combined than the 777, and that's a VERY big difference.
Apr 14, 2017, 3:02 am
#21
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Additionally, knock off 2 seats for the spoiled-brat pilot rest seats, another 4 for the dead-head spoiled brat pilots and then upgrades are going to be incredibly scarce, even more so than today. That basically kills El Al's competitive edge for the one-destination FF's (TLV-NYC) including me.
Apr 14, 2017, 3:21 am
#22
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Additionally, knock off 2 seats for the spoiled-brat pilot rest seats, another 4 for the dead-head spoiled brat pilots and then upgrades are going to be incredibly scarce, even more so than today. That basically kills El Al's competitive edge for the one-destination FF's (TLV-NYC) including me.
Apr 14, 2017, 8:17 am
#25
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of course its a big difference from the 777, its a much different aircraft.
you'll also have 28 seats with about 38' pitch. I'd rather be able to fly knowing i'll have 38' if I'm paying full fare economy than the slight chance of being upgraded and if not staying in coach.
But i dont think you will need to worry about NYC nights flights just yet, im pretty sure they will continue to be 777 - even after 744 leave the fleet ( with a bigger premium class offering)
I wonder what the plans are for the new 777 interiors.
you'll also have 28 seats with about 38' pitch. I'd rather be able to fly knowing i'll have 38' if I'm paying full fare economy than the slight chance of being upgraded and if not staying in coach.
But i dont think you will need to worry about NYC nights flights just yet, im pretty sure they will continue to be 777 - even after 744 leave the fleet ( with a bigger premium class offering)
I wonder what the plans are for the new 777 interiors.
Apr 14, 2017, 8:47 pm
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