entropy

they're 170* "lie almost flat".

joshwex90

Not IME (or based on those posts)

Dovster

These are really newbie questions but in reality I am a newbie to LY's Biz Class and I have two upcoming itineraries (TLV-MXP and TLV-AMS).

When I check in, do I have to get a pass for the King David Club (as I would for the Dan lounges when flying on a foreign airline) or do I just show my boarding pass at the club?

Is the same true for cooperating lounges for the return trip?

Also, I understand that I am allowed one guest. Do I have to remain with that guest or can we each go our separate ways (say to the Duty Free) and return independently?

joshwex90

No need for a pass for KDL in TLV - boarding pass is enough.

Officially, the guest must stay with you. Practically, no one checks or cares

Dovster

If we both leave (I will be going to the smoking area quite a bit) will my guest be allowed back in by himself?

joshwex90

That I don't know, though perhaps if the agent remembers the face, then yes? But just a guess, and no real clue

benberg2013

Once the boarding pass of your guest is scanned, the system registers that they are your guest. Then, if their boarding pass is scanned again, it will come up that they are allowed entry becuase they are someone's guest.

smellme

They're definitely 180 "lie completely flat". I should know, I fly with TK twice a month.

FlyAO2

Me neither - I take this flight often and always choose that seat as it has a bit more room.

That being said, every other business seat on the Delta plane is still multiple times better than what LY is offering. It is unfortunate, but LY's product just doesn't compare and they price it the same way. (I will say, that LY has much more inventory at the "cheapest" business class than UA or DL does)

Dovster

Having made the TLV-MXP-TLV itinerary this month in the 737-800, I have to admit I was not overly impressed by Biz Class. The big problem was that the seats recline so much that if the person in front of you has full recline there is almost no way you can get out of your seat.

Okay, I worked around that by taking the bulkhead aisle seat for the return flight and have reserved it both ways for my trip on the 737-900 to AMS next week. This leaves me with my second complaint -- why can't LY offer true IFE for Biz passengers? I don't want to have my choice restricted to the one movie being shown on an overhead screen.

I understand that some 737-900s have streaming entertainment but I won't know if my flight(s) will or won't until shortly beforehand. I do not own a tablet and am not about to buy one in the hope that I will get to see a movie. I do have a laptop which I can use but only if Biz seats have power to keep it charged. Can anyone here tell me if they do?

Ditto

According to Seatguru... they do:
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/El_...htno=338&date=

They also seem to rent out iPads for 10NIS: http://www.elal.com/en/PassengersInf.../Wemakeit.aspx

Dovster

The iPads are only available on flights to BOS for some reason and I am going to AMS.

Houminer

On the 737-900 all C pax get an ipad for no charge. There are also power outlets for every seat.

Dovster

Thank you -- that means I won't bother downloading the app to my laptop. I am surprised, however, because that is not what the LY website says.

Houminer

You are surprised?