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Old Feb 8, 12, 2:06 pm   #1
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LY routes operated by 747?

Before looking up all routes, does anybody know from the top of their head which routes are operated by a 747?

Btw, can anyone select any business class seat in advance or do you need to have status to do so? (as IŽd be interested in travelling on the upper deck)

Thanks a lot!
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Old Feb 8, 12, 2:19 pm   #2
 
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JFK, EWR (daily flight - switches off between 772 and 744), LHR, BKK (though they get 4X-ELH a lot which is an all Y config on LD, and just C on UD; no F. old plane), CDG (extremely rare)

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I think CDG also gets it
Extremely rare.
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Updated my post. Thanks
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Old Feb 9, 12, 3:18 am   #5
 
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JFK, EWR (daily flight - switches off between 772 and 744), LHR, BKK (though they get 4X-ELH a lot which is an all Y config on LD, and just C on UD; no F. old plane), CDG (extremely rare)
Im pretty sure that LH have no 777's in their fleet. With regards to the original question, all oh LH's current 747 fleet use the upper deck for F only. Whether you get the old F or new F is the gamble but they do not fly business class on upper deck on 747's.

Having said that they will be operating the new 747-8's from end of March/early April and that may or may not utilise a different configuration.
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Old Feb 9, 12, 3:21 am   #6
 
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Im pretty sure that LH have no 777's in their fleet. With regards to the original question, all oh LH's current 747 fleet use the upper deck for F only. Whether you get the old F or new F is the gamble but they do not fly business class on upper deck on 747's.

Having said that they will be operating the new 747-8's from end of March/early April and that may or may not utilise a different configuration.
You are correct that LH has no 777s, that all 744s use the UD as F, that it's a gamble on getting old F versus new, and that eventually the 748i will come out, and likely will have C on the UD.
That being said, this is not the LH forum, nor did the OP ask anything about LH! LY = EL AL!
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Old Feb 9, 12, 4:04 am   #7
 
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That being said, this is not the LH forum, nor did the OP ask anything about LH! LY = EL AL!
Indeed! I was a little confused re the LH remarks, read your short posts about 5 times to see if if I missed something about LH in there, or maybe my eye sight was not as good as it used to be...
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My humble apologies , my eyes were really not working very well
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No worries!
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I find putting my glasses on helps...
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Old Feb 9, 12, 12:58 pm   #11
 
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If you want to see where the El Al 747's have been, you can see their last month history on flight24.com

http://data.flight24.com/airplanes/4x-ela/
http://data.flight24.com/airplanes/4x-elb/
http://data.flight24.com/airplanes/4x-elc/
http://data.flight24.com/airplanes/4x-eld/
http://data.flight24.com/airplanes/4x-ele/
http://data.flight24.com/airplanes/4x-elh/

Cities visited: JFK, EWR, LHR, BKK, Geneva, CDG, Kiev, Barcelona, Amsterdam, FCO, Liege, SQQ (Lithuania), Vienna

Some interesting details -
4x-ELD has not operated since January 15th, and 4X-ELE since January 29th.
The 747's went on rare occasions to Kiev, Barcelona, and Amsterdam. But they all seemed to be one-off flights which may have been for some operational reason. For example - 4X-ELB going to Barcelona today is almost definitely due to the disruptions caused by the Histadrut general strike over the last two days. So El Al probably has had to catch up on moving people to and from spain due to that strike, so they put one of the 747's to ease up the backlog.
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I have never heard of them sending 744s to some of those cities! Though you probably are right that some are related to the Histadrut strike
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I flew on an LY 747 from DME-TLV a couple of months ago.
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I have never heard of them sending 744s to some of those cities! Though you probably are right that some are related to the Histadrut strike
Liege and SQQ (Lithuania) are probably a cargo flight and not passenger flight. Their actual cargo plan 4X-EAF flies to Liege and SQQ all the time. Who knew that there was so much cargo from Lithuania to Israel.
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Old Feb 9, 12, 2:39 pm   #15
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Thanks for the info.

Just two questions regarding seating:

1) Would I be able to select a seat on the upper deck?
2) On some flights rows 2-4 show up as "business class" on Expertflyer. I assume LY decided to cancel F service on those flights and uses the F cabin for C pax. Would I be able to select one of those seats? / Are those seats only available to status pax?

Thanks!
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