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Old Oct 3, 08, 2:23 pm   #211
 
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"As for the In-and-Out the first time I tried it in Simi Valley, CA I was frankly unimpressed"

Unless you knew what to order, why would you be? The best things aren't on the menu.
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"As for the In-and-Out the first time I tried it in Simi Valley, CA I was frankly unimpressed"

Unless you knew what to order, why would you be? The best things aren't on the menu.
That's at least the 3rd time you've said that without any back up for it. That sort of persistently unsupported assertion is usually only found on OMNI.

And all this from Mr. "I'm not about to help them out either as it'd lead to me having to wait longer."

With 140+ locations (the 140 figure is from 2005), the odds of a few dozen more converts from flyertalk every contributing a single extra person ahead of you in line is very, very low.
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Old Oct 3, 08, 2:53 pm   #213
 
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"As for the In-and-Out the first time I tried it in Simi Valley, CA I was frankly unimpressed"

Unless you knew what to order, why would you be? The best things aren't on the menu.

I think I had a double double... I don't even remember.

I do remember that I was telling my buddy: "Dude, I don't do fast food anymore!" but he insisted, claiming the "double double is gnarley!"

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Old Oct 3, 08, 6:27 pm   #214
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That's at least the 3rd time you've said that without any back up for it. That sort of persistently unsupported assertion is usually only found on OMNI.

And all this from Mr. "I'm not about to help them out either as it'd lead to me having to wait longer."

With 140+ locations (the 140 figure is from 2005), the odds of a few dozen more converts from flyertalk every contributing a single extra person ahead of you in line is very, very low.

The (not so) secret menu is easy enough to find.
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Old Oct 3, 08, 7:22 pm   #215
 
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The (not so) secret menu is easy enough to find.
Nor is it hard to find slightly less-well known special orders like getting your french fries well done, or with cheese on them, or "animal style" (with mustard and grilled onion like the burger, if I'm reading right)

There are plenty of weird alternate orders:
http://www.badmouth.net/in-n-outs-secret-menu/
http://daviswiki.org/In-N-Out_Secret_Menu

But he's yet to explain, as well known as these are, which of these we're supposed to be ordering to be blown away by it for those of us who didn't fall in love with the basic burger and fries.

Or if it's from some "double secret menu," the better known ones aren't helping. Now if they offered bacon burgers, and offered real cheese options rather than American, I'd be more likely to special order.
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If someone is too lazy to google something that they read about on a webpage while reading their computer then they really don't deserve to know.
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Old Oct 4, 08, 3:35 am   #217
 
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If someone is too lazy to google something that they read about on a webpage while reading their computer then they really don't deserve to know.
It's trivial to google on the "secret" menu, but I've known about most of the above-mentioned items for years. None of them look like something I'd want to try except for a couple which are fancy names for special orders you could get anywhere (ie, it's handy to know the term "double meat" instead of "double hamburger, no cheese", but you can get the latter just as easily at BK) "Animal style" seems like their one big innovation (fried with the mustard) ... if you really like mustard.

The few new ones to me from either cow orkers recently or googling (ie the "flying dutchman", sans either buns or lettuce) sound frankly even less appealing.

Which leads back to your continued and unsupported assertion that people somehow don't know what to order. If you're implying that there's some "double secret menu," it's hardly readily accessible on Google. If not, which of the above are people supposed to order?

See also http://fantasymenu.blogspot.com/
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?\"If you're implying that there's some "double secret menu," it's hardly readily accessible on Google."

Yes, oh wo is me, how might one ever find this information out. Certainly you couldn't Google it, I mean if I typed in in n out secret menu into Google it would no doubt only return items about the US presidential debate, the history of sour candy and various German pornography.

It's not that the first result returned would be from the company itself detailing its own secret menu. That would just be crazy talk.

In the case where you still don't know what to order, I'm guessing that googling in n out burger what to order might give you an indication of what's good to order. Of course, if your perception of things you haven't tried is, "None of them look like something I'd want to try" then you probably wouldn't like it they were serving a kobe ribeye philly with Stilton and shaved white truffles.

I get the feeling sometimes that is some people got any lazier their hearts would stop.
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A double meat with raw onion slice, pickles and extra spread does it for me. The basic SoCal burger. Fries well done when I have them.
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Old Oct 4, 08, 4:27 pm   #220
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A double meat with raw onion slice, pickles and extra spread does it for me. The basic SoCal burger. Fries well done when I have them.
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..........In the case where you still don't know what to order, I'm guessing that googling in n out burger what to order might give you an indication of what's good to order. Of course, if your perception of things you haven't tried is, "None of them look like something I'd want to try" then you probably wouldn't like it they were serving a kobe ribeye philly with Stilton and shaved white truffles.

I get the feeling sometimes that is some people got any lazier their hearts would stop.
We know what braslvr likes. I prefer a double double animal style without pickles. Perhaps thegeneral would like to share his preference.
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Old Oct 5, 08, 1:53 am   #221
 
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?\"If you're implying that there's some "double secret menu," it's hardly readily accessible on Google."

Yes, oh wo is me, how might one ever find this information out. Certainly you couldn't Google it, I mean if I typed in in n out secret menu into Google it would no doubt only return items about the US presidential debate, the history of sour candy and various German pornography.
Which is the regular "secret menu" I've known about for years. Yawn.
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?\"If you're implying that there's some "double secret menu," it's hardly readily accessible on Google."

Yes, oh wo is me, how might one ever find this information out. Certainly you couldn't Google it, I mean if I typed in in n out secret menu into Google it would no doubt only return items about the US presidential debate, the history of sour candy and various German pornography.

It's not that the first result returned would be from the company itself detailing its own secret menu. That would just be crazy talk.
Quit stalling. As I said, I've been aware of most of those options for years. None of that recommends any particular item or items.

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In the case where you still don't know what to order, I'm guessing that googling in n out burger what to order might give you an indication of what's good to order.
I don't know what YOU claim will impress people who "don't know what to order."

I know what to order - either a double burger or two hamburgers, with ketchup instead (getting dressing on a burger once was quite enough!) and the raw onion.

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Of course, if your perception of things you haven't tried is, "None of them look like something I'd want to try"
We're hardly talking about haute cuisine here. As far as I can tell, the only real innovation is "animal style," and as I disklike mustard, there's no particular reason to assume that frying it in it will improve their hamburger.

Every other item on the secret menu is essentially available at other burger places; "light" or "well done" fries are the sort of thing you get by accident elsewhere, and neither one of them seems likely to make a big difference in their fries (which are good enough in their way, but I prefer more substantial cut ones to the skinny ones that they do.)

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then you probably wouldn't like it they were serving a kobe ribeye philly with Stilton
With the exception of "animal style," none of the options described on the web are remotely imaginative. Frankly, I wouldn't want In-n-out to try doing Philly Cheesesteak - it's not their schtick nor something I'd expect a burger place to do well... let alone one as expensive as Wagyu w. Stilton (which sounds intriguing, if likely to be a waste of meat of that quality, and not a good match for a cheese that strong)

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On the other hand, that would kill any "intriguing" for me - I don't eat fungus.

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"Laziness" now because we can't mind-read?

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"On the other hand, that would kill any "intriguing" for me - I don't eat fungus. "

Given your negativity towards food and your bias to determine what tastes good based solely on your perception, I doubt that you'd find anything that anyone on here would suggest as good. You remind me of a 6 year old that decides they don't like onions because their mother doesn't like onions.

Why are you in the dining thread anyways if you have such a negative, pre-made opinion of food.
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"On the other hand, that would kill any "intriguing" for me - I don't eat fungus. "

Given your negativity towards food and your bias to determine what tastes good based solely on your perception, I doubt that you'd find anything that anyone on here would suggest as good. You remind me of a 6 year old that decides they don't like onions because their mother doesn't like onions.

Why are you in the dining thread anyways if you have such a negative, pre-made opinion of food.
What is "taste" if not a specific kind of "perception?"

Hence the usual phrase, "there's no accounting for taste."

Meanwhile, instead of just answering the original question, you once again dodge - this time by engaging in an ad hominem attack on the questioner.

You've you've refused to answer my question of August 19th; I'm going to rephrase that so as to be very generic: "Taking a hypothetical person who is aware of the publically known 'secret menu' items but not being obviously drawn to any one of them, and a single visit to In-n-out, what should they order so that they'll be impressed?"

Or does that not apply, because you really meant by "don't really have a clue of what/how to order there" just that they don't know about the (not-very-)'secret' menu items?

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Why are you in the dining thread anyways if you have such a negative, pre-made opinion of food.
You're assuming that all strong opinions are negative - I read FT dining because I've got strong opinions about food both positive and negative. Now, I'm in this thread because you've been refusing to answer my question (and trotting out the same assertion to other people, without explanation) for a couple of months now... otherwise, frankly, I've said what I've got to about In-n-Out.
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I made a little snafu in scheduling, apparently I won't be able to walk/take a shuttle to the LAX In-N-Out on my day of travel because my flight is at 11, and the place doesn't open until 10:30....


The only other logical solution is to pig out the night before... nothing like a double double animal style for some midnight munchies.


Is it sort of "obligatory" to go to the LAX store for this experience, or do you think just about any other location will suffice?

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PS. this whole LA trip is going to be bad for my health... between Pinks and In-N-Out I might as well cancel the rental car and resort to walking to help burn the influx of calories...
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