Restaurants with the "party of one"
#121
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Hard to remember for sure - but I remember feeling a little awkward the first year or so that I traveled when i had to dine alone. I didn't let it stop me and now it's no big thing.
I think some of the awkwardness comes our experience growing up. You always think about going to the restaurant as a family or for a special occasion. It was always with at least one other person. As a teen, you meet up with your friends at a restaurant. So you just don't think of eating at a restaurant alone.
I think some of the awkwardness comes our experience growing up. You always think about going to the restaurant as a family or for a special occasion. It was always with at least one other person. As a teen, you meet up with your friends at a restaurant. So you just don't think of eating at a restaurant alone.
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As a frequent business traveler, I don't have a problem with dining alone; I'm happy to take a book or tablet and read while eating. But I have experienced issues with service. Someone upthread (and a year ago) mentioned that single diners don't tip as well so they don't get good service. Maybe it's the other way around?
There's a casual dining restaurant very close to my regular hotel in France. It's not "fine dining" but it has a good variety of decent food at a fair price. And it's (by far) the closest to my hotel.
Over the course of maybe four years, I've eaten there three times as a solo diner and four/five times with a group (2 to 6 people). The difference in service is stunning.
My first time at this restaurant was as a solo diner and the service was poor. The second time was a year later with a colleague and it was so much better that I thought the first time had just been an off night. So I went back (within a week) on my own, and it was poor again. A year later with a group of six, and then a group of three, and then on my own. And there is definitely a pattern:
When I'm alone, they ignore me for a few minutes when I enter, before checking as to whether there's some slight chance I might be interested in eating. (Why else would I be here?) For a group, they are cheerfully prompt to seat us.
Alone, I wait an eternity before they take my order. For a group, they come before I've even finished helping my non-French-speaking friends with the menu.
Alone, I get the main meal and 15 minutes later have to ask about my soda or wine, which then takes another 10 minutes to arrive. For a group, they manage to bring all the meals and beverages at the same time.
Alone, they never come back to ask whether I want dessert or coffee when I've finished my meal. With a group, they were quick to ask what else we would like.
My French is just as mediocre when I'm alone as when I'm with friends (and in the group cases, most of my dining companions spoke no French) so it's not a case of language snobbery. On my own I usually eat a bit early so it's not overly busy. France is not a tipping culture so it shouldn't be fear of a small tip. I can only guess that the waitstaff find me awkward and avoid/ignore me. So I won't be going back as a solo diner. Their loss.
There's a casual dining restaurant very close to my regular hotel in France. It's not "fine dining" but it has a good variety of decent food at a fair price. And it's (by far) the closest to my hotel.
Over the course of maybe four years, I've eaten there three times as a solo diner and four/five times with a group (2 to 6 people). The difference in service is stunning.
My first time at this restaurant was as a solo diner and the service was poor. The second time was a year later with a colleague and it was so much better that I thought the first time had just been an off night. So I went back (within a week) on my own, and it was poor again. A year later with a group of six, and then a group of three, and then on my own. And there is definitely a pattern:
When I'm alone, they ignore me for a few minutes when I enter, before checking as to whether there's some slight chance I might be interested in eating. (Why else would I be here?) For a group, they are cheerfully prompt to seat us.
Alone, I wait an eternity before they take my order. For a group, they come before I've even finished helping my non-French-speaking friends with the menu.
Alone, I get the main meal and 15 minutes later have to ask about my soda or wine, which then takes another 10 minutes to arrive. For a group, they manage to bring all the meals and beverages at the same time.
Alone, they never come back to ask whether I want dessert or coffee when I've finished my meal. With a group, they were quick to ask what else we would like.
My French is just as mediocre when I'm alone as when I'm with friends (and in the group cases, most of my dining companions spoke no French) so it's not a case of language snobbery. On my own I usually eat a bit early so it's not overly busy. France is not a tipping culture so it shouldn't be fear of a small tip. I can only guess that the waitstaff find me awkward and avoid/ignore me. So I won't be going back as a solo diner. Their loss.
#123
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As a frequent business traveler, I don't have a problem with dining alone; I'm happy to take a book or tablet and read while eating. But I have experienced issues with service. Someone upthread (and a year ago) mentioned that single diners don't tip as well so they don't get good service. Maybe it's the other way around?
There's a casual dining restaurant very close to my regular hotel in France. It's not "fine dining" but it has a good variety of decent food at a fair price. And it's (by far) the closest to my hotel.
Over the course of maybe four years, I've eaten there three times as a solo diner and four/five times with a group (2 to 6 people). The difference in service is stunning.
My first time at this restaurant was as a solo diner and the service was poor. The second time was a year later with a colleague and it was so much better that I thought the first time had just been an off night. So I went back (within a week) on my own, and it was poor again. A year later with a group of six, and then a group of three, and then on my own. And there is definitely a pattern:
When I'm alone, they ignore me for a few minutes when I enter, before checking as to whether there's some slight chance I might be interested in eating. (Why else would I be here?) For a group, they are cheerfully prompt to seat us.
Alone, I wait an eternity before they take my order. For a group, they come before I've even finished helping my non-French-speaking friends with the menu.
Alone, I get the main meal and 15 minutes later have to ask about my soda or wine, which then takes another 10 minutes to arrive. For a group, they manage to bring all the meals and beverages at the same time.
Alone, they never come back to ask whether I want dessert or coffee when I've finished my meal. With a group, they were quick to ask what else we would like.
My French is just as mediocre when I'm alone as when I'm with friends (and in the group cases, most of my dining companions spoke no French) so it's not a case of language snobbery. On my own I usually eat a bit early so it's not overly busy. France is not a tipping culture so it shouldn't be fear of a small tip. I can only guess that the waitstaff find me awkward and avoid/ignore me. So I won't be going back as a solo diner. Their loss.
There's a casual dining restaurant very close to my regular hotel in France. It's not "fine dining" but it has a good variety of decent food at a fair price. And it's (by far) the closest to my hotel.
Over the course of maybe four years, I've eaten there three times as a solo diner and four/five times with a group (2 to 6 people). The difference in service is stunning.
My first time at this restaurant was as a solo diner and the service was poor. The second time was a year later with a colleague and it was so much better that I thought the first time had just been an off night. So I went back (within a week) on my own, and it was poor again. A year later with a group of six, and then a group of three, and then on my own. And there is definitely a pattern:
When I'm alone, they ignore me for a few minutes when I enter, before checking as to whether there's some slight chance I might be interested in eating. (Why else would I be here?) For a group, they are cheerfully prompt to seat us.
Alone, I wait an eternity before they take my order. For a group, they come before I've even finished helping my non-French-speaking friends with the menu.
Alone, I get the main meal and 15 minutes later have to ask about my soda or wine, which then takes another 10 minutes to arrive. For a group, they manage to bring all the meals and beverages at the same time.
Alone, they never come back to ask whether I want dessert or coffee when I've finished my meal. With a group, they were quick to ask what else we would like.
My French is just as mediocre when I'm alone as when I'm with friends (and in the group cases, most of my dining companions spoke no French) so it's not a case of language snobbery. On my own I usually eat a bit early so it's not overly busy. France is not a tipping culture so it shouldn't be fear of a small tip. I can only guess that the waitstaff find me awkward and avoid/ignore me. So I won't be going back as a solo diner. Their loss.
#124
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This thread leaves me scratching my head a bit. I eat alone in restaurants very frequently, and I don't recall ever having an uncomfortable experience in doing so. Often I eat at the bar, but by no means always. Service has never been an issue in the least. I must be lucky!
I do have a friend who refuses to eat alone, and travels a lot. He feels awkward about it and I've never been able to convince him otherwise. So he always gets takeout or something when traveling alone.
#125
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My leisure travel is mainly alone. I've eaten a lot alone, and usually it doesn't bother me. I have never experienced that the restaurant staff somehow feels akward dealing with me dining alone. I normaly just ask for "table for one". I'm fine eating at the bar and sometimes prefer it.
I usually bring a book to read in. Either a novel or the guide book for the city I'm visiting. Then I can use the dinner to plan for what to see/to do the next day and look at maps to plan the best route/order to visit the places I want to see.
I usually bring a book to read in. Either a novel or the guide book for the city I'm visiting. Then I can use the dinner to plan for what to see/to do the next day and look at maps to plan the best route/order to visit the places I want to see.
#127
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Maybe they're offended that you're ordering a soda rather than wine with dinner? This is France, afterall.
#128
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I doubt that's it. With the ever-more-draconian DWI laws in place in France these days, this summer we saw many French nationals drinking soft drinks at dinner - even when at white-tablecloth restaurants. Surprised the heck out of me.
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Ah - but were they drinking "soda" or other non-alcoholic alternatives? I find the idea of a mineral water completely expected with dinner, but soda? Never for anyone over the age of 16.
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So far as I'm aware, both Coca-Cola and "Coke Light" (as the French call Diet Coke) qualify as soda. So yes, soda, consumed by persons well over the age of 16.