People Kept Complaining This Restaurant Sucked, Look What They Found Out…
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People Kept Complaining This Restaurant Sucked, Look What They Found Out…
A famous restaurant in NYC decided to hire a firm to figure out why they kept getting bad reviews. What this firm discovered is quite interesting. Below is a transcript that the restaurant posted on Craigslist after they discovered what it was:
http://themetapicture.com/people-kep...hey-found-out/
http://themetapicture.com/people-kep...hey-found-out/
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Having witnessed behavior like this in person - compounded with 15 years as chief analyst at a think tank studying the problem of Information Overload - this doesn't surprise me at all.
What does surprise me is the fact that someone was able to make this kind of comparison - it's amazing that any of the tapes were located from over a decade ago and it has provided invaluable insights on a major shift in how people comport themselves.
What does surprise me is the fact that someone was able to make this kind of comparison - it's amazing that any of the tapes were located from over a decade ago and it has provided invaluable insights on a major shift in how people comport themselves.
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I thought the same - except that the article specifically mentioned it was popular with tourists, so that makes a lot more sense.
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+1^
The thing that surprises me the most is the fact that they can come to this conclusion based on viewing 45 customers in 1 day, then doing it again 10 years later, again based on 1 day's viewing.
Im no rocket scientist or a consultant but off the top of my head i would think you should probably view a lot more tape.
The thing that surprises me the most is the fact that they can come to this conclusion based on viewing 45 customers in 1 day, then doing it again 10 years later, again based on 1 day's viewing.
Im no rocket scientist or a consultant but off the top of my head i would think you should probably view a lot more tape.
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seems some posting in this thread are not foodies and have not kept up with the foodie scene. (especially but not limited to young foodies.)
and occasionally people will tell me nothing has changed at all. right.
i might seek out restaurants that do not allow photos (and or cell phones) in the future. how to find them? look for people complaining about them not being allowed.
i might seek out restaurants that do not allow photos (and or cell phones) in the future. how to find them? look for people complaining about them not being allowed.
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I'm convinced this "study" is bogus. I posted my thoughts to a food-specific message board.
ETA: I'm not sure how this could be a publicity stunt, since the post never mentioned the name of the restaurant.
ETA: I'm not sure how this could be a publicity stunt, since the post never mentioned the name of the restaurant.
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chgoeditor, chicago may not be as bad. some foodie blogs are crazy.
i literally just emailed this to a friend in NYC, who replied saying he refuses to go to trendy LES restaurants on fri/sat because of the dining crowd.
i literally just emailed this to a friend in NYC, who replied saying he refuses to go to trendy LES restaurants on fri/sat because of the dining crowd.
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B. The restaurant claimed they were in/near Times Square. This "restaurant" (which I'm positive doesn't exist) isn't a trendy foodie destination. If anything, it's a place like Guy Fieri's tourist trap. (Which it's not.)
C. Read any number of the articles that have been written about this Craigslist post. Without fail, and regardless of where they are located, most commenters are calling BS.
D. Hello? Isn't this Flyertalk? I'm a little insulted that you assume/imply I have no experience dining in other cities!
(And I hope you know I'm just giving you grief. But I still stand by my conclusion that this post was bogus.)
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chgoeditor, you misread my post. i mentioned "crazy" and "foodie" but could have been more specific.
"as bad" - in terms of crazy 'foodies' ... "some foodie blogs are crazy." - i was only talking about the particular "foodies" who do not care if the food tastes good and spend more time photographing their food and talking about it (including over social media in real time) than eating it.
excuse my use of the word "crazy" as it was the first word that came to mind. i will be the first to agree it is an oversimplification that is probably not accurate, but i was going for brief, and failed.
i am not a foodie. (nor do i believe in identifying myself by labels.) i think i am always clear that i am only talking about certain foodies or the foodie "movement" - i am suspicious of ALL "movements" and many things that also add the word "culture" after them these days. new ones not historical.
if it is a tourist trap, the same principle can apply, except applying to tourists rather than foodies.
actually, wouldnt it be even worse? because people are not there for food, they are there to post to social media and take photos, thats it.
and i go back to >
absolutely agree 100%. the restaurant is irrelevant. this is talking about aspects of society including but not limited to social media. but then im a "big picture" person (different perspective) on these things.
re photo taking (and it happening / not happening in certain places) >
"as bad" - in terms of crazy 'foodies' ... "some foodie blogs are crazy." - i was only talking about the particular "foodies" who do not care if the food tastes good and spend more time photographing their food and talking about it (including over social media in real time) than eating it.
excuse my use of the word "crazy" as it was the first word that came to mind. i will be the first to agree it is an oversimplification that is probably not accurate, but i was going for brief, and failed.
i am not a foodie. (nor do i believe in identifying myself by labels.) i think i am always clear that i am only talking about certain foodies or the foodie "movement" - i am suspicious of ALL "movements" and many things that also add the word "culture" after them these days. new ones not historical.
if it is a tourist trap, the same principle can apply, except applying to tourists rather than foodies.
actually, wouldnt it be even worse? because people are not there for food, they are there to post to social media and take photos, thats it.
and i go back to >
re photo taking (and it happening / not happening in certain places) >
Momofuku Ko is famous for banning photos:http://www.businessinsider.com/resta...-photos-2013-1 Brooklyn Fare is as well. When we dined at Shoto (David Chang restaurant in Toronto) - photos weren't allowed. But apparently only flash photography is banned now.
it all sucks IMO. Especially when it comes to the "counter dining" types of places that are so popular these days. I got really PO'd at Frantzen (then Frantzen Lindeberg) in Stockholm. Like 5 seats at the chef's table. And the diners other than us were all going click-click-click-click-click with their bursting SLR cameras (guess you go to a place that costs $750 for 2 - people have expensive cameras).
FWIW - thinking back - I cannot remember a single restaurant in Tokyo on our last trip (whether 1/2/3 star Michelin) where anyone whipped out a camera...In Germany - 1/2/3 star Michelin restaurants - same thing.
Same thing our last trip to New York for the most part. At places like Le Berdardin and Marea (although not the late Corton - which I won't miss at all).
Perhaps the key is just figuring out where most of the jerks with cameras want to dine?
FWIW - thinking back - I cannot remember a single restaurant in Tokyo on our last trip (whether 1/2/3 star Michelin) where anyone whipped out a camera...In Germany - 1/2/3 star Michelin restaurants - same thing.
Same thing our last trip to New York for the most part. At places like Le Berdardin and Marea (although not the late Corton - which I won't miss at all).
Perhaps the key is just figuring out where most of the jerks with cameras want to dine?
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chgoeditor, you misread my post. i mentioned "crazy" and "foodie" but could have been more specific.
"as bad" - in terms of crazy 'foodies' ... "some foodie blogs are crazy." - i was only talking about the particular "foodies" who do not care if the food tastes good and spend more time photographing their food and talking about it (including over social media in real time) than eating it.
excuse my use of the word "crazy" as it was the first word that came to mind. i will be the first to agree it is an oversimplification that is probably not accurate, but i was going for brief, and failed.
"as bad" - in terms of crazy 'foodies' ... "some foodie blogs are crazy." - i was only talking about the particular "foodies" who do not care if the food tastes good and spend more time photographing their food and talking about it (including over social media in real time) than eating it.
excuse my use of the word "crazy" as it was the first word that came to mind. i will be the first to agree it is an oversimplification that is probably not accurate, but i was going for brief, and failed.