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Old Jun 20, 12, 12:07 pm   #1
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The “Only Rich People Can Afford Healthy Food” Myth?



http://healthynewdawn.com/2012/06/15...food-the-myth/

While I like the graphic and I do think it makes a good point, I'm not necessarily convinced that better food isn't more expensive in the long run. Organics, for example, will tend to be more expensive surely.
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The graphic is comparing prepared food to raw ingredients. How is this a valid comparison?
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The graphic is comparing prepared food to raw ingredients. How is this a valid comparison?
Not sure I follow. Are you saying there are costs to cooking that need to be incorporated into the analysis?
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Buying a meal at a restaurant is significantly more expensive than making that same meal at home. And the McDonalds meal includes drinks while the others don't, throwing off the price comparison and the calorie comparison.
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Buying a meal at a restaurant is significantly more expensive than making that same mrsl at home.
But isn't that the whole point of this graphic? Isn't the myth that eating at McD's is cheaper than cooking healthy at home?
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But isn't that the whole point of this graphic? Isn't the myth that eating at McD's is cheaper than cooking healthy at home?
Then why is the title of your thread "The 'Only Rich People Can Afford Healthy Food' Myth" and not "The 'Eating At McD's Is Cheaper Than Cooking Healthy At Home' Myth"?
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Then why is the title of your thread "The 'Only Rich People Can Afford Healthy Food' Myth" and not "The 'Eating At McD's Is Cheaper Than Cooking Healthy At Home' Myth"?
Because the second one is really stupid?

And also it's the quote from the blog I got this from.
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Because the second one is really stupid?
You are the one who voiced the (alleged) myth. <Shrug>
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You are the one who voiced the (alleged) myth. <Shrug>
I should have been more clear, my sincere apologies my good friend. I was suggesting that the McD's example was an instance of the myth, not the myth itself. Thank you very much for allowing me to clarify.
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And the McDonalds meal includes drinks while the others don't, throwing off the price comparison and the calorie comparison.
The milk is somehow not included in the price/calorie comparisons?
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http://healthynewdawn.com/2012/06/15...food-the-myth/

While I like the graphic and I do think it makes a good point, I'm not necessarily convinced that better food isn't more expensive in the long run. Organics, for example, will tend to be more expensive surely.
Even buying in season and not organic ... those fruits and veggies add up.

Time is also money ... and cooking on budget takes time. Time for menu planning based on whats on sale, time to shop, and time to cook.

If you eat off the dollar menu at McD's, you can get at least that much food for under $20. Not saying its nutritionally sound, but still...

Then there's the issue of not being able to buy $.55 worth of oil, or 4 slices of bread. Cooking is cheaper if you plan ahead and do it regularly ... and that goes back to the time issue. If you're working a couple jobs to make ends meet, it would be pretty easy to forget to put those beans out to soak the night before.

Also... no seasonings other than salt & pepper? And plain bread?
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The milk is somehow not included in the price/calorie comparisons?
absolutely right. missed the milk.
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If you're working a couple jobs to make ends meet, it would be pretty easy to forget to put those beans out to soak the night before.
I agree, though don't you think folks often also use the time excuse when it's not really true? I know lots of folks, for example, who talk about not having enough time to do this and that but what they really mean is that when they get home at night they're tired so they conk out on the couch or whatever. I think often the time argument reduces to an argument about effort.
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Not counting the costs of the time and convenience needed to transform the raw materials into something edible (and discounting the fact that some people simple do not know how to do it) is what singles your post as tendentious.

I don't know what you want to prove; it is definitely not that it would be cheaper to eat at home - for this to happen, someone has to cook. And this someone could, perhaps, think that he/she has better things to do with their time.
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Not counting the costs of the time and convenience needed to transform the raw materials into something edible (and discounting the fact that some people simple do not know how to do it) is what singles your post as tendentious.
First of all this is an absurd assumption: raw food is often edible.

Second, what are the costs of time needed to cook beans and rice, for example? 20 minutes?

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I don't know what you want to prove; it is definitely not that it would be cheaper to eat at home - for this to happen, someone has to cook. And this someone could, perhaps, think that he/she has better things to do with their time.
I don't want to prove anything. I want to shed light on this prevalent myth, one you seem to have bought into. I think it's wrong. I think you're wrong. That's my point.
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