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Old Jan 17, 13, 7:22 am   #31
 
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There are some folks that will be caught out, but this seems a reasonable response to DL's need for the FF program to actually reward, you know, spending with DL.
If you buy an AF ticket JFK-CDG you won't get MQD. However, DL will still get a slice of the pie as revenue and profits are shared in the TATL JV.
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Old Jan 17, 13, 7:24 am   #32
 
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Don't miss the wholesale overhaul of MQM earning on SkyTeam partners. In short, if you're flying an Asian carrier in anything but F/J, don't expect full MQMs. Even in full fare Y, it's not 100% MQM.

https://www.delta.com/content/www/en.../airlines.html

What's interesting is, all of the sudden, there's two classes of Delta partners. JV (AF, KL, AZ) and business partners (Alaska, Gol, Aeromexico), and then there's the other SkyTeam partners. Maybe one day they'll let us accrue MQDs on those carriers too.
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Old Jan 17, 13, 7:24 am   #33
 
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If you have a U.S. Delta SkyMiles Credit Card from American Express you will have the new MQDs requirement waived each year you make $25,000 in eligible purchases using your card.
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Old Jan 17, 13, 7:25 am   #34
 
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Holy crap! Has anyone looked at the MQM earning rates for partner airlines? There are substantial reductions especially with Asian partners. Down to 50% on KE econ classes and only 100% in biz.
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Old Jan 17, 13, 7:25 am   #35
 
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It's hit the wires:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/delta-...140000338.html

"Medallion level earning to focus on providing high value customers an even more exclusive SkyMiles Medallion program experience"
Jeff Robertson is quoted: "Adding a revenue component to the SkyMiles Medallion program ensures that our most valued customers receive the best program benefits and a more exclusive experience."

Back when I first earned medallion status in the late '90s certain fare codes were not upgrade eligible (LUT IIRC). In other words, there was a revenue component - an incentive to spend more money if you wanted to 'receive the best program benefits.' Today, a GM or above on an award ticket can be upgraded...not so exclusive any more.
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Old Jan 17, 13, 7:26 am   #36
 
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Don't miss the wholesale overhaul of MQM earning on SkyTeam partners. In short, if you're flying an Asian carrier in anything but F/J, don't expect full MQMs. Even in full fare Y, it's not 100% MQM.

https://www.delta.com/content/www/en.../airlines.html

What's interesting is, all of the sudden, there's two classes of Delta partners. JV (AF, KL, AZ) and business partners (Alaska, Gol, Aeromexico), and then there's the other SkyTeam partners. Maybe one day they'll let us accrue MQDs on those carriers too.


The End of Skyteam.
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Old Jan 17, 13, 7:26 am   #37
 
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Don't miss the wholesale overhaul of MQM earning on SkyTeam partners. In short, if you're flying an Asian carrier in anything but F/J, don't expect full MQMs. Even in full fare Y, it's not 100% MQM.
Sheesh, these have been gutted.

http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...orean-air.html
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Old Jan 17, 13, 7:27 am   #38
 
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Killing MQM earning on partners doesn't really matter if you can't earn MQD on them.
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Old Jan 17, 13, 7:28 am   #39
 
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Summary in a nutshell:

If you don't fly on a DL 006 ticket with DL flight numbers, you get hosed.

No MQD on partner tickets, and severely slashed MQM on almost all partners as well. Just wait until pax start realizing that their EU trips that got re-ticketed into 074 screw them over.

Last edited by rylan; Jan 17, 13 at 8:44 am..
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Old Jan 17, 13, 7:28 am   #40
 
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Don't miss the wholesale overhaul of MQM earning on SkyTeam partners. In short, if you're flying an Asian carrier in anything but F/J, don't expect full MQMs. Even in full fare Y, it's not 100% MQM.

https://www.delta.com/content/www/en.../airlines.html
Even full-fare business on CZ doesn't earn 100% MQM on the new chart. On KE you need full fare J to get 100% MQM. Discounted biz is 75%.

Also, what's up with excluding earning on ST-coded flights operated by SV? Every page I've looked at (outside of SV, of course) says that accrual is not allowed on flights operated by SV.
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Old Jan 17, 13, 7:29 am   #41
 
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VA goes up to 100% MQM for discount economy fares though.
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Old Jan 17, 13, 7:30 am   #42
 
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I think this is going to bring a major war between Alaska and DL elites.
I doubt that very much.

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Why? Because AS elites do not have a MQD requirement and thus it is more "valuable" than toiling to be a DL elite by trying to hit MQD spend.
I would think that depends entirely upon your flying patterns.

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Can you imagine talking to a AS FO sitting in the DL exit row while you are DL FO with 50,000 MQMs because you didn't spend $5K that year??
I think that the number of folks accruing 50k MQMs on less than $5k in spend will be relatively limited.
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Old Jan 17, 13, 7:31 am   #43
 
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This really devalues the program. No reason to fly Aeroflot or Czech anymore. Good thing I have already started switching over my spend to UA and *A.

This combined with the nearly impossible redemptions on AF and AZ will probably push me to some combination of OW and *A for the future.
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Old Jan 17, 13, 7:31 am   #44
 
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LOL full fare business on UX gets 75%.
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Old Jan 17, 13, 7:31 am   #45
 
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I miss NWA and WorldPerks.
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