Any possibility that Delta may start SFO-PVG?

superpanjy · Jan 14, 13, 2:29 pm

I know MU will start operating this route from 4/26/2013. A330

DJMeatBall · Jan 14, 13, 2:34 pm

If another SkyTeam partner is operating that flight, why should Delta do it on their own metal when they can just as easily sell code-shares?

MSPeconomist · Jan 14, 13, 2:35 pm

Anything's possible, but it's not likely that DL would copy a new route being started by its partner. Also, DL tends to operate most of its West Coast TPAC flights from SEA or LAX, so SEA-PVG would be much more likely (but I'm not saying it's likely).

ClipperDelta · Jan 14, 13, 2:42 pm

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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist

so SEA-PVG would be much more likely (but I'm not saying it's likely).

SEA-PVG is starting this coming June with the 76T (first flight is 16 Jun I believe).

superpanjy · Jan 14, 13, 2:51 pm

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Originally Posted by ClipperDelta

SEA-PVG is starting this coming June with the 76T (first flight is 16 Jun I believe).

seasonal route?

ClipperDelta · Jan 14, 13, 2:54 pm

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Originally Posted by superpanjy

seasonal route?

Nope, scheduled to be year-round.
Announced as part of the SEA international expansion back in October:

http://news.delta.com/index.php?s=43&item=1732

Schedule as follows:

DL589 SEA 2:45pm PVG 6:20pm+1 76T Daily
DL588 PVG 12:20pm SEA 8:50am 76T Daily

Builderman · Jan 14, 13, 4:13 pm

MU is going to restart this route after a decade long absence. If MU, which has a hub at one end, is only now resuming service here how is DL going to make the route work on pure O/D traffic competing against MU and UA?

mattsteg · Jan 14, 13, 6:06 pm

DL is very unlikely to launch an international hub not involving one of their hubs or gateway cities, especially to compete against just-relaunched service by a partner.

Dawgfan6291 · Jan 14, 13, 8:42 pm

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Originally Posted by superpanjy

I know MU will start operating this route from 4/26/2013. A330

No.

Only way you will see China growth from Delta that isn't to a hub(ATL/DTW/JFK/MSP/SEA and LAX would be the only ones that have a real chance) is if the Us and China get an open skies agreement and Delta can get a Joint venture with its China partners (so MU and CZ) That would give Delta hubs in PVG/CAN and PEK in the same way Delta has hubs in CDG/FCO and AMS. (and even then, Delta would only fly the route if they were to make the most money/ have the right aircraft for the route.)

so long story short, you wont be seeing non-hub China growth from Delta any time soon.

Dawgfan6291 · Jan 14, 13, 8:44 pm

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Originally Posted by superpanjy

seasonal route?

Delta doesn't have any seasonal routes to China.

mizzou miles · Jan 14, 13, 8:48 pm

From SFO? really? Sure, why not also start DFW-LHR, SFO-FRA (which DL tried at one time a long time ago) but also throw in DEN-FRA and maybe EWR-FRA for good measure.....

um, NO

jrl22 · Jan 14, 13, 8:51 pm

yes there is a "possibility"

the "probability" is close to zero, as others have stated

it's SO much fun to be a literalist

Builderman · Jan 15, 13, 1:19 am

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Originally Posted by mizzou miles

From SFO? really? Sure, why not also start DFW-LHR, SFO-FRA (which DL tried at one time a long time ago) but also throw in DEN-FRA and maybe EWR-FRA for good measure.....

um, NO

They'd better not start DEN-FRA before my long desired FLL-MIA on the A380!

mnredfox · Jan 15, 13, 2:17 am

to MU offering this, hope it's the new A332 with flatbeds. Another option to PVG from the west coast that doesn't depend on DL releasing low.

rwSEA · Jan 15, 13, 2:22 am

SFO-PVG seems to be pretty well covered by DL and MU. 1-stop options via either SEA or NRT on DL, in addition to the nonstop on MU. I don't see any reason why DL would start this route.