Using SkyMiles on SkyTeam & Other Partners: The Discussion Thread
Mar 15, 2013, 9:12 am
#226
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Not sure if it was already discussed, but over at "Point me to the Plane" he mentions Hawaiian is starting a HNL-AKL route that will be 3x this spring/summer and 4x weekly in the fall. It'll be operated by their A330. It's not known for sure whether it will be bookable with DL miles, but if so it opens up another option to get to NZ. Definitely something to keep an eye on.
http://boardingarea.com/blogs/pointm...with-aa-or-dl/
http://boardingarea.com/blogs/pointm...with-aa-or-dl/
Mar 15, 2013, 11:43 am
#227
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Yes, costs the same. You are correct, if you want to use the return on a later date book that.
Mar 15, 2013, 12:08 pm
#228
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Not sure if it was already discussed, but over at "Point me to the Plane" he mentions Hawaiian is starting a HNL-AKL route that will be 3x this spring/summer and 4x weekly in the fall. It'll be operated by their A330. It's not known for sure whether it will be bookable with DL miles, but if so it opens up another option to get to NZ. Definitely something to keep an eye on.
http://boardingarea.com/blogs/pointm...with-aa-or-dl/
http://boardingarea.com/blogs/pointm...with-aa-or-dl/
Mar 17, 2013, 1:21 pm
#229
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Regarding OK (Czech Airlines), it looks like award availability may now be in ExpertFlyer. The catch is that you search under "Flight Availability" instead of "Awards & Upgrades;" if you search under Flight Availability, the Z & E classes (J & Y award, respectively) show up.
Mar 17, 2013, 3:35 pm
#230
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It never hurts to remind folks about HA and TN options to NZ, but indeed this is old news. I mentioned this flight back in September 2012 http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/19283784-post86.html
Mar 17, 2013, 4:15 pm
#231
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Mar 18, 2013, 10:05 am
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Regarding OK (Czech Airlines), it looks like award availability may now be in ExpertFlyer. The catch is that you search under "Flight Availability" instead of "Awards & Upgrades;" if you search under Flight Availability, the Z & E classes (J & Y award, respectively) show up.
Results from ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Awards & Upgrades Search
Departing MXP on 05/18/13 12:00 AM for PRG
Flying OK on booking class Z E
Direct/Non-Stop Only
Frequency
Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Class Description Code Seats
0 Connections
OK 719 0 MXP PRG 319 T,Sa Business - Award Z 3
05/18/13 9:15 AM 05/18/13 10:45 AM 96% / 8m Economy - Award E 9
0 Connections
OK 721 0 MXP PRG 32S T,W,Th,Sa Business - Award Z 2
05/18/13 2:30 PM 05/18/13 4:00 PM 100% / 1m Economy - Award E 2
Apr 9, 2013, 1:19 pm
#233
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booked a China-Europe Round trip ticket in Economy for GF
First called in North America Center, could not pull up the availability from mu for CTU-PVG but got down the international segment, pvg-cdg(<24 hr layover)-dus, cgn-ams(12 hr layover)-ctu. The agent priced it out as 160kmiles, asked to hold and hung up.
called in to Singapore center, the agent was able to see the availability for MU but not on the desired flight time. The trip however priced out correctly as 80k although ctu-pvg segment was not included.
Called in to MU for availability on award flights from ctu-pvg on that day, got down the flight numbers that show avaibility.
called back into Singapore center, add the segment but was told the agent messed up the first and last name so had to reissue a ticket.
Eventually, the trip is CTU-PVG(18 hr layover)-CDG(20 hr layover)-DUS
CGN-AMS(12hr layover)-CTU. 80k miles + 222 sgd dollars in tax
The domestic china segment is on MU, outbound flights are on AF, inbound flights are on KL.
The entire phone-in time took me approx 2 hours.
First called in North America Center, could not pull up the availability from mu for CTU-PVG but got down the international segment, pvg-cdg(<24 hr layover)-dus, cgn-ams(12 hr layover)-ctu. The agent priced it out as 160kmiles, asked to hold and hung up.
called in to Singapore center, the agent was able to see the availability for MU but not on the desired flight time. The trip however priced out correctly as 80k although ctu-pvg segment was not included.
Called in to MU for availability on award flights from ctu-pvg on that day, got down the flight numbers that show avaibility.
called back into Singapore center, add the segment but was told the agent messed up the first and last name so had to reissue a ticket.
Eventually, the trip is CTU-PVG(18 hr layover)-CDG(20 hr layover)-DUS
CGN-AMS(12hr layover)-CTU. 80k miles + 222 sgd dollars in tax
The domestic china segment is on MU, outbound flights are on AF, inbound flights are on KL.
The entire phone-in time took me approx 2 hours.
Apr 10, 2013, 6:43 am
#234
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Just tried to book a CDG - PRG flight on Czech (OK). Airfrance.us shows several OK flights available but the Delta agent couldn't find any. She did put me on hold for a while to see if she could get the Czech flights but after a while I was suddenly transferred to the survey. Does AF have different availability for Czech flights than Delta?
I will try calling again and post my experience.
I will try calling again and post my experience.
Apr 10, 2013, 11:40 am
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Just tried to book a CDG - PRG flight on Czech (OK). Airfrance.us shows several OK flights available but the Delta agent couldn't find any. She did put me on hold for a while to see if she could get the Czech flights but after a while I was suddenly transferred to the survey. Does AF have different availability for Czech flights than Delta?
Apr 10, 2013, 8:58 pm
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Apr 10, 2013, 9:45 pm
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[KVS Availability Tool 7.1.8/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/SkyTeam/FR-AF]
Code:
CDG Paris Charles De Gaulle FR [LFPG] PRG Prague Ruzyne CZ [LKPR] SAT 18 May 2013 | 1 Seat Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive St Availability --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------ AF 1382 CDG 07:25 PRG 09:00 CS1 YX9 OK 759 CDG 09:45 PRG 11:30 CS+ YS0 AF 1982 CDG 13:25 PRG 15:00 CS1 YX9 OK 761 CDG 14:55 PRG 16:40 CS+ YS+ OK 767 CDG 20:20 PRG 22:00 CS+ YS+
Code:
CDG Paris Charles De Gaulle FR [LFPG]
PRG Prague Ruzyne CZ [LKPR]
SAT 18 May 2013
Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
OK/AF 4765 CDG 07:25 PRG 09:00 320 J4 C4 D4 I3 Z4 Y9 M9 B9 H9 K9 T9 A7 L4 X0 Q0 U0 V0 N0 S0 W0 O0 G0 R0 E2
OK 759 CDG 09:45 PRG 11:30 320 J8 C8 D8 I5 Z7 Y9 M9 B9 H9 K7 T4 A0 L0 X0 Q0 U0 V0 N0 S0 W0 O0 G0 R0 E0
OK/AF 4767 CDG 13:25 PRG 15:00 321 J4 C4 D4 I4 Z4 Y9 M9 B9 H9 K9 T9 A9 L9 X9 Q9 U0 V0 N0 S0 W0 O0 G0 R0 E9
OK 761 CDG 14:55 PRG 16:40 320 J8 C8 D8 I5 Z7 Y9 M9 B9 H9 K9 T9 A9 L9 X9 Q9 U0 V0 N0 S0 W0 O0 G0 R0 E8
OK 767 CDG 20:20 PRG 22:00 320 J8 C8 D7 I5 Z7 Y9 M9 B9 H9 K9 T9 A9 L9 X9 Q9 U0 V0 N0 S0 W0 O0 G0 R0 E8
Apr 17, 2013, 7:51 am
#239
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After a schedule change, I changed my DL award ticket last night with the help of a good SLC agent. I now have 5 DL and 2 KL flights in my reservation. Flights show ok on DL.com and SaudiAirlines.com, but on AF.us and KLM.com only 2 flights show from this reservation: one DL and one KL flight. I can change seats just fine for the Dl flights on DL.com. Note that this reservation contains a problematic intra-Europe KL flight that was "selling out", but the agent was able to push it through somehow. Should I be concerned about what AF.us/KLM.com display? I tried looking up by both DL PNR and ticket number and the end result is the same.
Apr 17, 2013, 8:00 am
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After a schedule change, I changed my DL award ticket last night with the help of a good SLC agent. I now have 5 DL and 2 KL flights in my reservation. Flights show ok on DL.com and SaudiAirlines.com, but on AF.us and KLM.com only 2 flights show from this reservation: one DL and one KL flight. I can change seats just fine for the Dl flights on DL.com. Note that this reservation contains a problematic intra-Europe KL flight that was "selling out", but the agent was able to push it through somehow. Should I be concerned about what AF.us/KLM.com display? I tried looking up by both DL PNR and ticket number and the end result is the same.