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Old Dec 22, 12, 2:11 pm   #1
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22,000 applicants for 300 F/A positions

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-1...dant-jobs.html

Those who don't fly a lot probably still view being an F/A or airline pilot as a glamorous, fun lifestyle that Frank Abangale enjoyed as portrayed in the movie "Catch Me if You Can".

I wonder how many of those 22,000 applicants have a clue about what the career entails, including what it's like starting at the bottom of the seniority ladder earning poverty wages and enduring crappy hours. I wonder how many of these applicants have a family to help(or fully) support under those kinds of work conditions...
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Old Dec 22, 12, 2:12 pm   #2
 
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and I thought the recession was over.... or so some "experts" have told us.

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Old Dec 22, 12, 3:11 pm   #3
 
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I wonder how many of those 22,000 applicants have a clue about what the career entails, including what it's like starting at the bottom of the seniority ladder earning poverty wages and enduring crappy hours. I wonder how many of these applicants have a family to help(or fully) support under those kinds of work conditions...
What other options do they have? There aren't exactly a lot of jobs out there. Walmart gets just as many applicants when they post positions, and I think everyone knows how crappy the working conditions and pay are there.

Hopefully Delta can select some high quality applicants from such a large pool.
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Old Dec 22, 12, 3:14 pm   #4
 
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Delta please choose some young energetic flight attendents...
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Old Dec 22, 12, 4:04 pm   #5
 
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I wonder how many of those 22,000 applicants have a clue about what the career entails, including....
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Old Dec 22, 12, 4:08 pm   #6
 
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Bottom line, you go international to get good FA's.
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Old Dec 22, 12, 4:11 pm   #7
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Bottom line, you go international to get good FA's.
not always, the most horrible FAs on Delta have been intl. for me. I agree they are generally pretty good, but I am not finding a huge difference between domestic and intl.
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Old Dec 22, 12, 4:19 pm   #8
 
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not always, the most horrible FAs on Delta have been intl. for me. I agree they are generally pretty good, but I am not finding a huge difference between domestic and intl.
Yes, I should have clarified: non-Delta international.

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Old Dec 22, 12, 5:06 pm   #9
 
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and I thought the recession was over.... or so some "experts" have told us.

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Old Dec 22, 12, 5:17 pm   #10
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AA recently posted openings for up to 1,500 FA positions and shut off the application process after a few days with more than 20,000 applicants. Not surprising given that AA hasn't hired a new flight attendant in over 11 years.

The best thing that could happen to the legacy airlines, finance-wise, is that many of the new applicants aren't looking to do it for 40 years, but instead look at the job as a more temporary position (say, 5-8 years or so) and then leave to do something else. That alone would help keep labor costs in check.
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Old Dec 22, 12, 5:36 pm   #11
 
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Those who don't fly a lot probably still view being an F/A or airline pilot as a glamorous, fun lifestyle that Frank Abangale enjoyed as portrayed in the movie "Catch Me if You Can".

I wonder how many of those 22,000 applicants have a clue about what the career entails, including what it's like starting at the bottom of the seniority ladder earning poverty wages and enduring crappy hours. I wonder how many of these applicants have a family to help(or fully) support under those kinds of work conditions...
Are you suggesting people should start at the top?
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Old Dec 22, 12, 7:30 pm   #12
 
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not always, the most horrible FAs on Delta have been intl. for me. I agree they are generally pretty good, but I am not finding a huge difference between domestic and intl.
Seniority enters the picture for which flights (international vs. domestic) FAs bid on, and there is another subset for which cabin they work in.

You'll likely not find perky energetic FAs in the premium cabins of most US carriers. Experienced? Most assuredly. Happy with their job/life/career choice?
YMMV.

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Old Dec 22, 12, 7:50 pm   #13
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-1...dant-jobs.html

Those who don't fly a lot probably still view being an F/A or airline pilot as a glamorous, fun lifestyle that Frank Abangale enjoyed as portrayed in the movie "Catch Me if You Can".

I wonder how many of those 22,000 applicants have a clue about what the career entails, including what it's like starting at the bottom of the seniority ladder earning poverty wages and enduring crappy hours. I wonder how many of these applicants have a family to help(or fully) support under those kinds of work conditions...
what does it matter? I am sure they do anyway. Why would you think they dont? Your ... - u - ming.
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Old Dec 22, 12, 7:54 pm   #14
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Seniority enters the picture for which flights (international vs. domestic) FAs bid on, and there is another subset for which cabin they work in.

You'll likely not find perky energetic FAs in the premium cabins of most US carriers. Experienced? Most assuredly. Happy with their job/life/career choice?
YMMV.

Want to feel like a valued customer in IFC/J? SQ, TG, CX awaits your custom.
I would disagree. I've experienced energetic and enthusiastic DL FAs in BE on both TATL and TPAC flights. In addition, I sometimes sense that the purser sets the attitude for the entire crew. Happy purser, happy FAs....
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Old Dec 22, 12, 8:34 pm   #15
 
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Let's hope the don't take anyone with previous airline experience or anyone who may be looking to cause trouble. No need to hire someone who is jaded.
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