Because it is an international itinerary, you are not allowed any Same Day Changes. This is true even if your BOS-DCA flight is not connecting to an international one (say you are planning on spending a few days in BOS, then going on to DCA for a few more days before continuing on to JFK).
Is that clear? It is all part of your international itinerary so your BOS-DCA flight is international travel and thus not qualified for a SDC. Got it? I want to be sure that you are not confused by this.
But (assuming you are not a Medallion member) don't expect to get away without being charged for your checked luggage on your BOS-DCA flight.
That luggage is free only only if you are connecting directly to/from your flight to TLV. Otherwise, it will cost you $15 for the first bag, $25 for the second bag, and a $5 fee per bag if you don't check in on line.
Why? Because your BOS-DCA flight is not part of your international travel, even if it is on your international itinerary.
Is that clear? It is not part of your international itinerary so your BOS-DCA flight is not international travel and thus not qualified for two free pieces of luggage. Got it? I want to be sure that you are not confused by this.
The BOS-DCA segment is not international travel except when it is international travel.
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that is ... crazy logic that only an airline could come up with. guess that is the airline's version of Catch 22.
that is similar to the following:
was late checking in for a flight. had to check luggage. they denied me boarding b/c my luggage would not make it. since you can't fly without your luggage i was rebooked on next flight. got bumped from rebooked flight BUT my luggage went with the rebooked flight. (note the part where my luggage was not on the flight i was then rebooked next day)
that is ... crazy logic that only an airline could come up with. guess that is the airline's version of Catch 22.
that is similar to the following:
.. since you can't fly without your luggage ...
While I can see the faulty logic in the international example, this is just a mis-statement of the rule. You are absolutely allowed to fly without your luggage...you just aren't allowed to voluntarily separate from it. Or at least that's the explanation I've been given in similar situations.
Will the first and second bag fees be charged to International passengers that have connections/stopovers within the U.S.?
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If an International passenger makes a connection/stopover on their originating flight to or from the US or at a later date during their travel within the U.S., the second bag international fee does not apply (exception: second bag fee will apply for passengers traveling to or from Europe). Complete rules can be found on the baggage allowance page.
So you're coming from TLV, which is not part of Europe, so there's no second bag fee. But you're making a stopover as part of an international ticket. Logic SHOULD state that you should be able to carry your second piece of luggage for free.
SDC is a whole different story. You should give it a shot with the online check in engine or web site.
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Will the first and second bag fees be charged to International passengers that have connections/stopovers within the U.S.?
If you have a connection, you will not be charged the fees. If you have a stopover, you will be.
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So you're coming from TLV, which is not part of Europe, so there's no second bag fee. But you're making a stopover as part of an international ticket. Logic SHOULD state that you should be able to carry your second piece of luggage for free.
You would think so, wouldn't you? Especially as you are not allowed an SDC because the stopover is considered international travel.
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SDC is a whole different story. You should give it a shot with the online check in engine or web site.
Delta.com does not allow SDCs in such a case. Customer Support does not allow it. I have taken this all the way to Richard Anderson (I started a separate thread about this, but "Search" is not working right now, so I can't link to it).
Everybody along the line agrees: If you are on an international itinerary, and you have a domestic flight -- and it does not matter if it connects to your international flight or not -- that domestic flight is considered international travel and is not eligible for an SDC.
At the same time, however,even if it is not a connecting flight, it is not considered international travel and the domestic baggage fees apply.
Everybody along the line agrees: If you are on an international itinerary, and you have a domestic flight -- and it does not matter if it connects to your international flight or not -- that domestic flight is considered international travel and is not eligible for an SDC.
At the same time, however,even if it is not a connecting flight, it is not considered international travel and the domestic baggage fees apply.
This is the airline doing what it can to interpret things in the ways more favorable to the airline than to the customer regardless of the inconsistency in application of the term "domestic" or "international" when comparing two policies of a given airline.
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Delta.com does not allow SDCs in such a case. Customer Support does not allow it. I have taken this all the way to Richard Anderson (I started a separate thread about this, but "Search" is not working right now, so I can't link to it).
Everybody along the line agrees: If you are on an international itinerary, and you have a domestic flight -- and it does not matter if it connects to your international flight or not -- that domestic flight is considered international travel and is not eligible for an SDC.
At the same time, however,even if it is not a connecting flight, it is not considered international travel and the domestic baggage fees apply.
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Everybody along the line agrees: If you are on an international itinerary, and you have a domestic flight -- and it does not matter if it connects to your international flight or not -- that domestic flight is considered international travel and is not eligible for an SDC.
At the same time, however,even if it is not a connecting flight, it is not considered international travel and the domestic baggage fees apply.
Hate to rain on your parade here, but... this actually is logically consistent.
No SDC on international itineraries.
Domestic bag fees on domestic flights not connecting to international segments.
International ITINERARY and international FLIGHT are not the same thing.
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Hate to rain on your parade here, but... this actually is logically consistent.
No SDC on international itineraries.
Domestic bag fees on domestic flights not connecting to international segments.
International ITINERARY and international FLIGHT are not the same thing.
Let's take a look at what Delta, itself, says about SDCs:
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The same-day confirmed option allows you to change your flight time on the same day of travel for a fee of $50. To use the same-day confirmed option, you must confirm your new flight within 3 hours of the scheduled departure time. If you have a flexible fare (usually a refundable ticket), you may be able to change your itinerary without a fee.
You can use the same-day confirmed option for travel within the United States, Canada, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands on Delta and Delta Connection® flights.
Now let's see what it says about baggage fees:
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Originally Posted by delta.com
Checked Baggage—International
Currently when traveling to or from most cities outside the United States you can check two bags, per passenger at no extra charge.
Please note that it makes no difference between "flights" and "itineraries". In both instances it talks about "travel".
Personally, I consider it ridiculous that a flight between two American cities is considered "international" but Delta insists that it is -- but only for the purpose of not allowing SDCs.
That very same flight is no longer "international" when it comes to baggage fees (unless there is a direct connection to an international flight).
So, if I am flying BOS-DCA, and not connecting to an international flight, how does this become "international travel" in one instance but not in the other?
That is, indeed, logically inconsistent.
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Just talk to a gate agent, hopefully, they will be just as confused as you, and you might be able to get either a same day change, or at least a free 2nd bag.
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