Yes, I would also expect that. And some competitors (that are in an even worse way) will do the same.
NWA bookings are (at the moment) not affected, right?
And there is no public date yet, when there are no NWA bookings possible anymore?
NW tickets that have already been issued cannot be legally stripped of the 2 free bags allowance on international flights, but DL will certainly be trying to harmonize the fees applicable to DL and NW bookings made after the effective date. How soon DL can get that done is something to see.
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you're a PM....why does this affect you? hell, the majority of the people who respond in here are medallions, why are we complaining?
I don't care about the fee because your right I've never had to pay. I've had "delayed" luggage so many times on Int'l flights that I should know better. I fly through CDG about 10 times a year. My first experiment traveling with two carry ons only for a 10 day Int'l trip starts tomorrow. I've decided priority tags with PM ID says lose me. lol
"Elite frequent fliers and active military are exempt from paying Delta's new fee for a second checked bag on international flights. The first checked bag on international flights remains free."
The only way bag fees will go away is if Expedia, Orbitz and Travelocity make it so bag fee estimates are included in the default search. Airlines with fees get pushed to the bottom, airlines without come out on top.
They are losing money. They have to generate revenue from somewhere.
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My message to them is that they all should be fired for making poor hedging bets on fuel.
They've made some macro-level mistakes that exacerbated losses. Now they're trying to recover by bleeding customers -- kind of like Citi jacking credit card rates for good customers to 19% to compensate for losses from all the bad loans they eagerly made.
Obviously people tend to travel further and longer on international flights so this 2nd-bag fee is more painful.
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Owing to heightened security you must comply with any crazy fake "regulation" we make up. Thank you sir.
DL is a pain to deal with regarding baggage. I had my mother fly them domestically (non-elite) so she paid the $15 fee, fine no problem. The bag of course, never made past ATL to her final destination in SNA until 2 days after she herself arrived. She shrugged her shoulders but I fought DL to the bitter end to get her money back. It was worth the point, not the stupid $15.
The baggage service provided by DL is now mutually exclusive from the air transportation provided. DL failed to provide the service described, so I asked for the money back. Ultimately had to go through the credit card company to get it reversed, and we did succeed through that avenue.
They are taking this way too far. For DL, it's a one-way street (they collect the money and protect it) and the customer loses if something goes wrong. DL needs to think this through before applying it internationally.
DL is a pain to deal with regarding baggage. I had my mother fly them domestically (non-elite) so she paid the $15 fee, fine no problem. The bag of course, never made past ATL to her final destination in SNA until 2 days after she herself arrived. She shrugged her shoulders but I fought DL to the bitter end to get her money back. It was worth the point, not the stupid $15.
The baggage service provided by DL is now mutually exclusive from the air transportation provided. DL failed to provide the service described, so I asked for the money back. Ultimately had to go through the credit card company to get it reversed, and we did succeed through that avenue.
They are taking this way too far. For DL, it's a one-way street (they collect the money and protect it) and the customer loses if something goes wrong. DL needs to think this through before applying it internationally.
I am just waiting to see which airline will attempt to segment checked baggage as a completely separate service from passenger transport so as to try to eliminate having to pay out the legally required compensation amounts for delayed, lost and damaged baggage that are due as a result of the compensation amounts stated under the Warsaw or Montreal conventions applicable to baggage transported internationally in conjunction with international passenger travel.
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I don't know who bought that "best in class" claptrap in the first place. Airline mergers are never pro-consumer or pro-competition; they are all about consolidating pricing power so fewer, more powerful entrants can force anti-consumer tactics exactly like this.
There are an awful lot of ex-WorldPerks people upset because they were promised a "best in class" airline, FF program, etc. but are getting anything but. But anyone who believed those promises doesn't get the airline business.
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This is ridiculous. At least they could have gone with the same $25 fee they did for domestic. $50 is awfully high.
If anything this will move me away from DL. I was leaning towards mixing my travel between AA and DL. Now, I'm going to stick with AA. If all the airlines are going to "fleece" passengers, then might as well get elite status at one. And AA right now is making me happier, despite the overall weaker network worldwide.
Why is DL doing everything possible to drive their customers away? This counts in particular for their European customer basis, as the whole Medallion thing is simply a joke over here (I know its an American airline but still advertising as h3ll here).
The only possible pristine DL routes are *ALL INTERNATIONAL* for us and the fare difference to other carrier is usually just a slim $50-150. When that fact is eaten up by obvious greed, why should we fly DL anymore?
Does DL wants to get rid of us so badly by literally pushing us towards LH and its *A-Gang?
I'm going to get killed for saying this, but I think that is an excellent way to generate revenue for the airline.
No reason they should charge passengers for bags from ATL-LAX but not from ATL-Panama (as an example).
I agree completely. Passengers really ought to pay for the services they use, including checked bags. DL just reported a net loss of almost $800 million - gotta pay the bills somehow.
