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Old Mar 20, 09, 7:24 pm   #91
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Old Mar 20, 09, 7:28 pm   #92
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Old Mar 20, 09, 7:49 pm   #93
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No way DL will do triple EQMs - they'll just match. The airline industry is very predictable - everyone just matches each other's crazy promo; not go on top of it. Plus, triple EQMs would vastly inflate the elite ranks, which would cause many of us to leave the airline due to many elite-lites making status. It's just not that hard to fly 25,000 miles over 3 months. Sorry, but taking 2 trips to Europe on a discount ticket over three months should not get you Platinum - making Platinum for $1000 would be a huge value degradation for the program, and if DL's just gonna hand out Platinum status like that, then I (and many others) will most likely switch to the other airlines where everyone isn't Platinum (or at least elite). If everyone's elite, then what's the purpose of being elite?

As for people switching, it's not that cut and dry. Each airline has its unique selling points. For many, it's nonstop flights. Some UA flyers won't leave UA simply because they have E+. Some like CO's first class product, which is arguably the best domestic F product of any domestic carrier. For some, it's about connectivity - one airline might have 1-2 flights a day into that airport, while another has 8-9 flights.

And if/when DL matches, it will undoubtedly be for travel by June 15 (just like everyone else), for flights only on Delta/Northwest metal (no codeshares with other airlines, just like everyone else). The only question is do they follow the US/UA/AA logic of counting only newly-booked travel, or the CO method of including existing travel.
I see what you're saying - easy to earn status and soon there would be too many elites. But if DL just matches, then it will be as usual...Other people would stay with another airline for a direct flight, but if it was triple, people would switch to DL (as a connecting flight), just to get quicker elite status.

What if you were going MSP-LAS (since you live in MSP and visit LAS way too much), and you could fly US direct with double EQM, or connect on DL and get triple MQM? If I were you, I'd fly DL connecting as you'd earn more miles connecting, and that would mean even more MQM for you.

DL needs to do it for existing travel too like CO. What if a business traveler had booked all of his/her flights for the rest of the year, and falls short of the qualifications of PM. The double MQM bonus comes in, and they make PM. It needs to be done.

I can see why they'd match but they'd get even more business if they tripled. As long as I get extra MQM on my trip to SAN in May, I'm good...
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Old Mar 20, 09, 7:57 pm   #94
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What if you were going MSP-LAS (since you live in MSP and visit LAS way too much), and you could fly US direct with double EQM, or connect on DL and get triple MQM? If I were you, I'd fly DL connecting as you'd earn more miles connecting, and that would mean even more MQM for you.
I'd fly DL just because I don't fly US anymore because I've had some bad experiences with them and also think Dividend Miles is not that great of a program. Amongst other issues.

Perfect example though: I'm going to LAS in May. If DL offers 3x EQM during this period, I'll be sitting well above 100k EQMs, since it's looking like I've got to go to Europe twice in three weeks in late April/early May. I'm going to LAS in late May. I'll gladly take UA's Double EQMs (even though if/when I qualify for Premier Exec or 1K, it will be on segments), just because there's no point in flying DL past 100k EQMs for me - I don't care about giving status to another person (though I'm sure my mother would enjoy not being in Zone 9 when traveling by herself!), and the prospect of more RDMs is just not enough to sway me.

Plus, with UA, I can easily route MSP-LAS via ORD, COS and DEN each way, earning many more RDMs and picking up an easy 8 segments since UA doesn't have journey control...)
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Old Mar 20, 09, 8:49 pm   #95
 
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I'm just waiting for DL to *enhance* SkyMiles by raising award levels.
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Old Mar 20, 09, 8:51 pm   #96
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I'm just waiting for DL to *enhance* SkyMiles by raising award levels.
Considering this would be an MQM and not SkyMiles promotion, I find it unlikely.
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Old Mar 21, 09, 9:08 pm   #97
 
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I see what you're saying - easy to earn status and soon there would be too many elites. But if DL just matches, then it will be as usual...Other people would stay with another airline for a direct flight, but if it was triple, people would switch to DL (as a connecting flight), just to get quicker elite status.

What if you were going MSP-LAS (since you live in MSP and visit LAS way too much), and you could fly US direct with double EQM, or connect on DL and get triple MQM? If I were you, I'd fly DL connecting as you'd earn more miles connecting, and that would mean even more MQM for you.

DL needs to do it for existing travel too like CO. What if a business traveler had booked all of his/her flights for the rest of the year, and falls short of the qualifications of PM. The double MQM bonus comes in, and they make PM. It needs to be done.

I can see why they'd match but they'd get even more business if they tripled. As long as I get extra MQM on my trip to SAN in May, I'm good...
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Old Mar 21, 09, 10:58 pm   #98
 
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It would be tough for me to book anything on DL right now. I booked my next 2 months travel with CO to take advantage of their 2x promo. I should have enough flights to renew my plat status. I was waiting for a sign on which way to go (CO or DL). I guess this was it.
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Old Mar 22, 09, 12:19 am   #99
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I have two trips coming up for April that I haven't booked yet. If DL matches on Monday I'll go with them. Otherwise, I'll by flying UA and taking advantage of their double EQM (MQM in DL-ese) promo. If I book that I'll almost be Premier for next year in the process.
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Old Mar 22, 09, 8:13 am   #100
 
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Kind of sucks that DL has still not responded to the double-MQM promotion. If they do not, but happened to follow the other carriers on checked bag fees, I think I will take my business elsewhere. You can't follow everyone else when it benefits your bottom line, but then not follow the other carriers when it will benefit your consumers. Bad Taste.
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Old Mar 22, 09, 8:39 am   #101
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I'd fly DL just because I don't fly US anymore because I've had some bad experiences with them and also think Dividend Miles is not that great of a program. ...
Dividend Miles is a great program. It's just that the airline stinks from the HP takeover. Cashing in Div Miles for free trips is absolutely the most productive of any *A carrier since they do not selectively bar any available awards. You can get anything offered on *A from them but the problem is that you need to fly on them to get enough miles and I will not do so except in an emergency.

Since I will easily qualify for PM without any bonuses, I will not at all change my flight patterns and plans and certainly would prefer if DL does not follow the herd. Now if they were giving double redeemable miles along with the useless MQMs, I would reconsider that last preference.
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Old Mar 22, 09, 8:44 am   #102
 
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DL needs to do it for existing travel too like CO. What if a business traveler had booked all of his/her flights for the rest of the year, and falls short of the qualifications of PM. The double MQM bonus comes in, and they make PM. It needs to be done.
Didn't happen that way last year; it was for travel booked within a certain timeframe and flown within a certain timeframe. The trip actually had to be ticketed within a certain window of dates. Probably will be the same if they do it again.
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Old Mar 22, 09, 10:16 am   #103
 
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Monday will tell us whether Delta is in or out on this one.
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Old Mar 22, 09, 10:49 am   #104
 
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Kind of sucks that DL has still not responded to the double-MQM promotion. If they do not, but happened to follow the other carriers on checked bag fees, I think I will take my business elsewhere. You can't follow everyone else when it benefits your bottom line, but then not follow the other carriers when it will benefit your consumers. Bad Taste.
So even if it's bad for your bottom line you should follow the leaders?


The money you might bring on this deal also has to be considered in light of the "liablity" you will incur.
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Old Mar 22, 09, 11:30 am   #105
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So even if it's bad for your bottom line you should follow the leaders?


The money you might bring on this deal also has to be considered in light of the "liablity" you will incur.
In Jeff Robertson's world, it's still reduced Medalliion customer counts = reduced "liability"?

That's a real leader not playing "follow the leaders".
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