From the T and C's:
A Delta Buy Miles purchase and a partner points to miles conversion transaction are considerred eligible unique activities.
So, would the following count as 4 separate activities or just 2?
1.Buy 1000 miles (the minimum?) for $29.56 including federal tax.
2. Transfer Starwood points, 2500 minimum, 1500 for Gold or Plat.
3. Transfer Diners Club points 1000 minimum
4. Transfer AMEX Membership rewards (unsure of min.)
From the T and C's:
A Delta Buy Miles purchase and a partner points to miles conversion transaction are considerred eligible unique activities.
So, would the following count as 4 separate activities or just 2?
1.Buy 1000 miles (the minimum?) for $29.56 including federal tax.
2. Transfer Starwood points, 2500 minimum, 1500 for Gold or Plat.
3. Transfer Diners Club points 1000 minimum
4. Transfer AMEX Membership rewards (unsure of min.)
Regarding #4: 1,000 MR is the minimum that you can transfer. I just did it. It will cost you 40 cents for their frequent flyer tax of some sorts.
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Only one activity per partner is allowed, only one Buy Miles activity is allowed, only one SkyRewards partner (e.g., SkyMall, LATHER, Organic Bouquet, Vinesse, Great American Days, Samsonite and Java City) activity is allowed, and only one SkyMiles Credit Card activity is allowed.
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This is the most confusing part of the T & C's to me. How do they define a "SkyRewards partner?" It's not clear from the listing on their website of Partners. They go through the trouble of making a list of SkyRewards partners, but it is non-exclusive. Specifically, is the SkyMiles shopping the same as SkyMall? It's certainly listed seperately on their website as a partner. If it's not, does this mean that we can make more than one purchase through SkyMiles shopping and have each purchase count as a "unique activity?" Also, is Skymiles Dining a "SkyRewards partner?" Is there anywhere to look for the definition of "SkyRewards partner?"
From the T and C's:
A Delta Buy Miles purchase and a partner points to miles conversion transaction are considerred eligible unique activities.
So, would the following count as 4 separate activities or just 2?
1.Buy 1000 miles (the minimum?) for $29.56 including federal tax.
2. Transfer Starwood points, 2500 minimum, 1500 for Gold or Plat.
3. Transfer Diners Club points 1000 minimum
4. Transfer AMEX Membership rewards (unsure of min.)
That's four partners, I have no doubt that those would all count as unique partners.
This is the most confusing part of the T & C's to me. How do they define a "SkyRewards partner?" It's not clear from the listing on their website of Partners. They go through the trouble of making a list of SkyRewards partners, but it is non-exclusive. Specifically, is the SkyMiles shopping the same as SkyMall? It's certainly listed seperately on their website as a partner. If it's not, does this mean that we can make more than one purchase through SkyMiles shopping and have each purchase count as a "unique activity?" Also, is Skymiles Dining a "SkyRewards partner?" Is there anywhere to look for the definition of "SkyRewards partner?"
I think what the subject inarticulate language was attempting to say was that you could have one, and only one, "activity" for each SkyRewards partner.
It can, indeed, be read restricitvely and that of all the examples that they listed, only one of that group would qualify once, but that seems ridiculous.
So, too, is the supposition that an IDINE at each DL accepting restaurant or purchase through the DL mall, would each qualify for one acitivity, almost ad infinitum.
A tougher one is a points to miles transfer from both AMEX and D/C, for example, can you do both to get credit, or will only one of the above be permitted to earn credit. Have no idea, but upon second thought, I believe they are each unique activities.
The only overlap of different activities -- where you are limited to only one -- is earnig DL miles thru either a hotel stay or hotel points transfer activity. In this case, one such activity counts for the other, as well.
Isn't there a DL Insider lurking here, or something?
Each Category listed and/or each partner so identified specifically within a given category can count, but only once. The rules seem to lump Great American Days and Vinesse and Java City as all counting as satisfying a single activity, but as can seen by the above link, the former is not even within the same category as Java City, and it seems illogical that these two distinct activities would apparently qualify to the exclusion of the other. But who knows?
Each Hotel Family Chain Counts As One Activity, BUT, a stay at any of the hotels within a given grouping or family will satisfy the activity for that hotel chain, to the exclusion of any other stays at sister hotels within the family (A DoubleTree stay that earns DL miles will, therefore, exclude counting your earning DL miles at Hilton, Hampton, E/S, etc. as each being an separate activity for the purposes for this promotion; however, you will still earn DL miles for the other stays should you wish.)
This is the tricky one. You can do each of the activities listed and they will each count as a separate activity, EXCEPT, converting hotel points from a specific chain to DL miles and earning DL miles from a specific hotel stay within a chain family. In the above instance, conversion will satisfy the latter, or vice-versa, and you will be limited to only one of these activities as counting as a separte activity for the purposes of the bonus. Remember, however, activities of seaparate hotel family chains are each unique and different from one another and each chain's activity will be considered a separate activity.
This is a GREAT promotion for sure. But, the T&Cs are TERRIBLE. It is totally unclear, for example, if each Skymiles Dining restaurant counts as a separate partner (e.g. Amex vs. Hilton) or if Skymiles Dining counts as one partner no matter how many different restaurants you hit (similar to how Doubletree, Hilton and HGI all count as the same partner)
Same problem with Skymilesshopping? Is each merchant a unique partner or a separate partner?
I'll email them (and expect a response back in about 2-3 weeks as usual) but it would be nice to have this cleared up!!
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Originally Posted by NJUPINTHEAIR
I think what the subject inarticulate language was attempting to say was that you could have one, and only one, "activity" for each SkyRewards partner.
It can, indeed, be read restricitvely and that of all the examples that they listed, only one of that group would qualify once, but that seems ridiculous.
So, too, is the supposition that an IDINE at each DL accepting restaurant or purchase through the DL mall, would each qualify for one acitivity, almost ad infinitum.
A tougher one is a points to miles transfer from both AMEX and D/C, for example, can you do both to get credit, or will only one of the above be permitted to earn credit. Have no idea, but upon second thought, I believe they are each unique activities.
The only overlap of different activities -- where you are limited to only one -- is earnig DL miles thru either a hotel stay or hotel points transfer activity. In this case, one such activity counts for the other, as well.
Isn't there a DL Insider lurking here, or something?
Each Category listed and/or each partner so identified specifically within a given category can count, but only once. The rules seem to lump Great American Days and Vinesse and Java City as all counting as satisfying a single activity, but as can seen by the above link, the former is not even within the same category as Java City, and it seems illogical that these two distinct activities would apparently qualify to the exclusion of the other. But who knows?
Each Hotel Family Chain Counts As One Activity, BUT, a stay at any of the hotels within a given grouping or family will satisfy the activity for that hotel chain, to the exclusion of any other stays at sister hotels within the family (A DoubleTree stay that earns DL miles will, therefore, exclude counting your earning DL miles at Hilton, Hampton, E/S, etc. as each being an separate activity for the purposes for this promotion; however, you will still earn DL miles for the other stays should you wish.)
This is the tricky one. You can do each of the activities listed and they will each count as a separate activity, EXCEPT, converting hotel points from a specific chain to DL miles and earning DL miles from a specific hotel stay within a chain family. In the above instance, conversion will satisfy the latter, or vice-versa, and you will be limited to only one of these activities as counting as a separte activity for the purposes of the bonus. Remember, however, activities of seaparate hotel family chains are each unique and different from one another and each chain's activity will be considered a separate activity.
I think what the subject inarticulate language was attempting to say was that you could have one, and only one, "activity" for each SkyRewards partner.
It can, indeed, be read restricitvely and that of all the examples that they listed, only one of that group would qualify once, but that seems ridiculous.
I think you may be correct. That would make the most sense. What the T&C may be trying to say is that patronizing a given retail partner counts but only counts once, regardless of how many times you buy. That is, place ten orders with Lather, it counts as one qualifying activity. Place ten orders with JavaCity, it counts as one qualifying activity, even if you'd already had a qualifying activity with Lather.
Applying the same reasoning to SkyMiles Dining and SkyMilesShopping, I think patronizing any participant in either Dining or Shopping will count, but you'll only get one qualifying activity at Dining or Shopping, respectively, no matter how many different dines you have at different restaurants and no matter how many different orders you place with participants in shopping.
WHERE IS the SkyMiles Lurker? The T&C of this promotion is in GREAT need of clarification.
0.4 cents? How are you gonna pay that one? And how did you buy clothing for your wife (or dry clean it) for less than a penny. Mrs BamaVol's a smart shopper, but she's never come close to that feat.
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Each Category listed and/or each partner so identified specifically within a given category can count, but only once. The rules seem to lump Great American Days and Vinesse and Java City as all counting as satisfying a single activity, but as can seen by the above link, the former is not even within the same category as Java City, and it seems illogical that these two distinct activities would apparently qualify to the exclusion of the other. But who knows?
Actually you're being vague as Delta by using the word "partner." Restaurants are not Delta partners. RewardsNetwork is a partner and the restaurants participate with them.
I'm writing to Delta for an explanation, but don't count on any response to be binding. I always go by the strictest reading of a promo. Have you ever done a promo that turned out to be better than you expected?
0.4 cents? How are you gonna pay that one? And how did you buy clothing for your wife (or dry clean it) for less than a penny. Mrs BamaVol's a smart shopper, but she's never come close to that feat.
I think he meant .40 dollars (the AMEX Membership Rewards excise tax fee).
I think you may be correct. That would make the most sense. What the T&C may be trying to say is that patronizing a given retail partner counts but only counts once, regardless of how many times you buy. That is, place ten orders with Lather, it counts as one qualifying activity. Place ten orders with JavaCity, it counts as one qualifying activity, even if you'd already had a qualifying activity with Lather.
Applying the same reasoning to SkyMiles Dining and SkyMilesShopping, I think patronizing any participant in either Dining or Shopping will count, but you'll only get one qualifying activity at Dining or Shopping, respectively, no matter how many different dines you have at different restaurants and no matter how many different orders you place with participants in shopping.
WHERE IS the SkyMiles Lurker? The T&C of this promotion is in GREAT need of clarification.
Exactly.
The only problem is that we do not know for sure. My surmises are only a guide for anyone who wishes to use them.
but it would be nice to have this cleared up!!
