SaveSkyMiles Ad in CVG USA Today today
Oct 29, 2003, 6:46 am
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SaveSkyMiles Ad in CVG USA Today today
Page 8C
As long as donations keep coming in, ads, billboards and other reminders to Delta that we not upset with front line employees will appear all over the country.
We are/were loyal customers until Delta decided we are/were not!!
We plan to continue with our mission of making Delta more receptive to the needs of its loyal customers and that our employee and media “education” efforts will continue for the forseeable future.
[This message has been edited by mikey1003 (edited 10-29-2003).]
As long as donations keep coming in, ads, billboards and other reminders to Delta that we not upset with front line employees will appear all over the country.
We are/were loyal customers until Delta decided we are/were not!!
We plan to continue with our mission of making Delta more receptive to the needs of its loyal customers and that our employee and media “education” efforts will continue for the forseeable future.
[This message has been edited by mikey1003 (edited 10-29-2003).]
Oct 29, 2003, 8:11 am
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Thumbs up!
Oct 29, 2003, 8:12 am
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Folks, keep the donations coming!
Oct 29, 2003, 8:21 am
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Mikey1003, it was good to meet you in ATL last evening. Is there a link to this ad on Page 8C?
Oct 29, 2003, 1:13 pm
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bdschobel,
Do we have a numbers update? How much did this one cost? How much do we need for another one? Thanks...
Do we have a numbers update? How much did this one cost? How much do we need for another one? Thanks...
Oct 29, 2003, 1:34 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by OrlandoFlyer:
Mikey1003, it was good to meet you in ATL last evening. Is there a link to this ad on Page 8C?</font>
Mikey1003, it was good to meet you in ATL last evening. Is there a link to this ad on Page 8C?</font>
Here is the link to the last ad....only thing that changed are the number of people who signed up and the total miles (remember, the mileage list is very DEvalued...many of us signed up 2 years ago and have not updated miles on SSM)
http://www.saveskymiles.com/images/Delta_Ad.pdf
You can also print and distribute the ad as you travel.
Oct 29, 2003, 2:02 pm
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BTW, ad should also run in:
DMA's covered by USA Today Cincinnati print market are Cincinnati, Dayton,Indianapolis, Ft. Wayne, Lexington, Louisville and Lima, OH.
DMA's covered by USA Today Cincinnati print market are Cincinnati, Dayton,Indianapolis, Ft. Wayne, Lexington, Louisville and Lima, OH.
Oct 29, 2003, 2:36 pm
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Here's why this ad is so disingenuous. The letter tries to make it seem that there is a connection between the SkyMiles cuts and the employee cuts. However, there is absolutely nothing to back this up.
In fact, a good case for the opposite could be made. Look at the employees at US, AA and UA. None of those airlines have made major changes in their FF programs (US tried but backed off). However, their employees have all fared far worse than DL employees with larger layoffs, larger paycuts and more draconian work rule changes. Yes DL employees have taken cuts, but compared to what is going on at those competitors, the DL employees are doing better.
If this letter wanted to be truly honest, it would be written as follows:
Dear DL Employees,
As air travelers today, we are paying 25-30% less for our tickets than we did just 3 years ago. However despite that fact, we expect to be given the exact same benefits today as we had 3 years ago. Even though we have no economic basis for our expectations, this is what we want.
In order to make this happen, we would like all the DL employees to take massive wage and work rule cuts (like the good people at US,UA and AA did) in order to subsidize our cheap flights.
We wish you well and continued safe travel.
Signed,
The 500 Delta Skymiles Members representing about 10 million miles flown
In fact, a good case for the opposite could be made. Look at the employees at US, AA and UA. None of those airlines have made major changes in their FF programs (US tried but backed off). However, their employees have all fared far worse than DL employees with larger layoffs, larger paycuts and more draconian work rule changes. Yes DL employees have taken cuts, but compared to what is going on at those competitors, the DL employees are doing better.
If this letter wanted to be truly honest, it would be written as follows:
Dear DL Employees,
As air travelers today, we are paying 25-30% less for our tickets than we did just 3 years ago. However despite that fact, we expect to be given the exact same benefits today as we had 3 years ago. Even though we have no economic basis for our expectations, this is what we want.
In order to make this happen, we would like all the DL employees to take massive wage and work rule cuts (like the good people at US,UA and AA did) in order to subsidize our cheap flights.
We wish you well and continued safe travel.
Signed,
The 500 Delta Skymiles Members representing about 10 million miles flown
Oct 29, 2003, 2:53 pm
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And now the obvious question:
Anyone have the link, text or JPEG image of the ad? Can't seem to find it anywhere online..
Anyone have the link, text or JPEG image of the ad? Can't seem to find it anywhere online..
Oct 29, 2003, 4:06 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ConnFlyer:
Here's why this ad is so disingenuous. The letter tries to make it seem that there is a connection between the SkyMiles cuts and the employee cuts. However, there is absolutely nothing to back this up. </font>
Here's why this ad is so disingenuous. The letter tries to make it seem that there is a connection between the SkyMiles cuts and the employee cuts. However, there is absolutely nothing to back this up. </font>
Oct 29, 2003, 4:49 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by heckler:
And now the obvious question:
Anyone have the link, text or JPEG image of the ad? Can't seem to find it anywhere online..</font>
And now the obvious question:
Anyone have the link, text or JPEG image of the ad? Can't seem to find it anywhere online..</font>
Oct 29, 2003, 4:57 pm
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Oops.. sorry.. I misread, I thought we had run an entirely new ad 
Just the previous ad, with new numbers. Ok, i'll shut up now..
Also, i'd be interested in any "human intelligence" we can get from DL folks, or fellow travellers on the ad. The earlier thread about the pilots and FA's cheering the ad on was great.. CVG is the second largest hub for DL, so I bet there is some interesting buzz - if you can dial into the signal
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Just the previous ad, with new numbers. Ok, i'll shut up now..
Also, i'd be interested in any "human intelligence" we can get from DL folks, or fellow travellers on the ad. The earlier thread about the pilots and FA's cheering the ad on was great.. CVG is the second largest hub for DL, so I bet there is some interesting buzz - if you can dial into the signal
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Oct 29, 2003, 5:48 pm
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I wonder when DL will tell the USA that if they run any more adds for the SSM team, DL will not advertise in the USA Today?????
Oct 29, 2003, 5:52 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ConnFlyer:
Here's why this ad is so disingenuous. The letter tries to make it seem that there is a connection between the SkyMiles cuts and the employee cuts. However, there is absolutely nothing to back this up.
In fact, a good case for the opposite could be made. Look at the employees at US, AA and UA. None of those airlines have made major changes in their FF programs (US tried but backed off). However, their employees have all fared far worse than DL employees with larger layoffs, larger paycuts and more draconian work rule changes. Yes DL employees have taken cuts, but compared to what is going on at those competitors, the DL employees are doing better.
If this letter wanted to be truly honest, it would be written as follows:
Dear DL Employees,
As air travelers today, we are paying 25-30% less for our tickets than we did just 3 years ago. However despite that fact, we expect to be given the exact same benefits today as we had 3 years ago. Even though we have no economic basis for our expectations, this is what we want.
In order to make this happen, we would like all the DL employees to take massive wage and work rule cuts (like the good people at US,UA and AA did) in order to subsidize our cheap flights.
We wish you well and continued safe travel.
Signed,
The 500 Delta Skymiles Members representing about 10 million miles flown</font>
Here's why this ad is so disingenuous. The letter tries to make it seem that there is a connection between the SkyMiles cuts and the employee cuts. However, there is absolutely nothing to back this up.
In fact, a good case for the opposite could be made. Look at the employees at US, AA and UA. None of those airlines have made major changes in their FF programs (US tried but backed off). However, their employees have all fared far worse than DL employees with larger layoffs, larger paycuts and more draconian work rule changes. Yes DL employees have taken cuts, but compared to what is going on at those competitors, the DL employees are doing better.
If this letter wanted to be truly honest, it would be written as follows:
Dear DL Employees,
As air travelers today, we are paying 25-30% less for our tickets than we did just 3 years ago. However despite that fact, we expect to be given the exact same benefits today as we had 3 years ago. Even though we have no economic basis for our expectations, this is what we want.
In order to make this happen, we would like all the DL employees to take massive wage and work rule cuts (like the good people at US,UA and AA did) in order to subsidize our cheap flights.
We wish you well and continued safe travel.
Signed,
The 500 Delta Skymiles Members representing about 10 million miles flown</font>
Well stated, ConnFlyer!
Most employees can easily see through this ad, and realize the motivation lying behind it.
The ever-mounting venom that fills this board speaks louder and more truthfully than any ad.
Oct 29, 2003, 5:56 pm
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you can add continental onepass recipients to the list .. thanks for influencing CO management delta