New Three-Tier System/Award Calendar In Effect
#121
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Haining (1 hr from Shanghai) China
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The reason that MNL won't work is the same as it has always been --- dl.com only accepts input of destinations that Delta either flies to or has codeshares to. While both the current version and the previous version will show many partners' available flights, neither version allows you to input a non-Delta or Delta codeshare destination.
#122
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: SLC
Programs: DL PM,1MM
Posts: 690
Multi-city functionality still not working for me ("one or more flights just sold out" message). This is a long darned time for this not to work at all-- how many thousands of award flights are people trying to book right now without success? The message about why they're not successful is false, and I suspect is known to be false by DL.
Anyone had any luck trying to get service fees waived due to the award calendar meltdown if calling to book the award res?
#123
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 4,677
Specifically, I'm trying to book a J ticket to ICN from the US. It shows Low as available on both the outbound and return, but the cost is 240K.
Last edited by El Boocho; Sep 28, 2008 at 4:27 pm
#124
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Unfortunately that doesn't explain why the old one never worked right either. The online award feature not working is by far the thing that frustrates me the most with DL.
Specifically, I'm trying to book a J ticket to ICN from the US. It shows Low as available on both the outbound and return, but the cost is 240K.
Specifically, I'm trying to book a J ticket to ICN from the US. It shows Low as available on both the outbound and return, but the cost is 240K.
It's more broken than I've ever seen it before ..... in more than one way
#125
Join Date: May 2005
Location: FL
Programs: DL/PM SM/AMEX/Plat HH/Gold Marriott/Plat Starwood/Plat
Posts: 140
I think the multi-city function is more frustrating prior to getting the "one or more flights just sold out" message as there is no way to tell if the flights you are selecting are low, medium, or high. I often will use multi-city to get the routing I want as the website will often ignore more direct flights and only offer flights with more connections. I'm more than willing to have a longer layover to get a "low" flight, but as of now there is no way to tell when searching.
Anyone had any luck trying to get service fees waived due to the award calendar meltdown if calling to book the award res?
Anyone had any luck trying to get service fees waived due to the award calendar meltdown if calling to book the award res?
I just did, $25 fee waived. Took forever though...
#126
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Sarasota, FL
Programs: Northwest Platinum, Hilton Diamond, Intercontinental Royal Ambassador, National Executive Elite
Posts: 613
Very frustrating - tried for 2 days and every flight I get the sold out message and none of the itineraries display mileage levels
#127
Join Date: Sep 2007
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Mooper, do you work for DL? Your replies seem too well crafted and strongly supportive of almost every aspect to which other FT's raise attention to.
#128
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Tampa
Programs: NW Platinum, NW Gold for '09
Posts: 1,267
This brings back fond memories when the "award pricing" was first introduced. I recall sitting on hold for a good hour at a time waiting for an IRR agent and then waiting while they figured out the taxes and stored them for us.
#129
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Regarding this thread, I think it would be most productive to give bug reports and structural suggestions in an attempt to help DeltaWebDev do his job - not bash him, Delta management, and prices/fees/surcharges with the empty hope it will be productive.
#130
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: eastern Europe & NC
Posts: 4,527
DL's new system totally sucks. Those of us at NW need to burn all of our Worldperks miles before they are captured by these lousy DL pirates.
#131
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: BNA
Programs: DL PM/MM, Hilton Diamond, *wood plat, UA 1kc
Posts: 921
I am not an IT guru, but my Dad always told me that anything worth doing in worth doing right. If, in my business, I botched implementations like DL has with its website, I would be looking for work.
#132
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: RDU, Delta GM/1MM, Hilton Diamond (for now), Bonvoy Titanium
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No, I do not work for nor with Delta in any capacity. I do own DAL stock, though I've disclosed this before and it isn't related to my supportive stance. I tend to be supportive because of my extensive business background, especially as it relates to IT and market theory. When I see a web developer attacked with complaints about the award price structure when he is trying to improve the web interface or people whine about fuel surcharges and other fees when the airline is bleeding cash and unable to raise revenues through fares, I try to quash the emotion and support logic.
Regarding this thread, I think it would be most productive to give bug reports and structural suggestions in an attempt to help DeltaWebDev do his job - not bash him, Delta management, and prices/fees/surcharges with the empty hope it will be productive.
Regarding this thread, I think it would be most productive to give bug reports and structural suggestions in an attempt to help DeltaWebDev do his job - not bash him, Delta management, and prices/fees/surcharges with the empty hope it will be productive.
The Award Calendar - still broken, even WORSE now.
Booking Award travel with partners online - half working some of the time
Searching +/- 1 day of travel when booking a revenue trip - broken - it's about as quality as the award calendar.
Those are all new things they've rolled out on their website that have honestly been disasters in my opinion.
Don't even get me started on stuff that has been broken for a while such as schedule changes to an existing booking.
Perfectly acceptable IT operation there.
#133
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 4,677
It must be a resource allocation issue. Fixing this can't be that difficult and a company like DL has the ability (and I assume acts on that ability) to hire good people. Not fixing it probably keeps people from redeeming (good in DLs eyes), but ultimately it pisses off customers. Probably neither the intended nor desired effect.
#135
Join Date: Aug 2006
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And I'll add one about the new Three-Tier system...
DL has just undertaken another round of schedule changes. They are reducing frequency JFK-ATH, and they've pulled the CR9's off DCA-JFK. So, they moved my JFK-ATH flight from a Thurs to a Fri, costing me a day in Athens (the Wed flight is booked full, award or revenue seat). But they left the DCA-JFK flight on the original day, leaving me an overnight at JFK (at least they called....).
This happened only a couple of days after the new award chart went into effect.
If I want to change destination >100 miles (if I chose FCO instead of ATH, for example), they want to cancel the old reservation, redeposit the miles, and charge me on the new chart.
DL has just undertaken another round of schedule changes. They are reducing frequency JFK-ATH, and they've pulled the CR9's off DCA-JFK. So, they moved my JFK-ATH flight from a Thurs to a Fri, costing me a day in Athens (the Wed flight is booked full, award or revenue seat). But they left the DCA-JFK flight on the original day, leaving me an overnight at JFK (at least they called....).
This happened only a couple of days after the new award chart went into effect.
If I want to change destination >100 miles (if I chose FCO instead of ATH, for example), they want to cancel the old reservation, redeposit the miles, and charge me on the new chart.