New Delta Reserve card from American Express.
#31
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The application site is down, so please help me confirm what I understand about this card. I have a Delta Plat Amex now (personal). I'm most interested in MQM's as the merger will affect me here in DTW.
So, (forgetting the 5K first purchase bonus for the moment), if I spend 60K on the new Reserve Biz card, I can max out the MQM's at 30K. In addition, if I spend, I believe, 50K on the Delta Plat Amex, I can get an additional 20K MQM. The total for both cards would be 50K MQM, making Gold.
Am I on the right track here?
Thanks.
edit: I see that the original bonus is 10K not 5K. I was looking toward year 2 and beyond.
So, (forgetting the 5K first purchase bonus for the moment), if I spend 60K on the new Reserve Biz card, I can max out the MQM's at 30K. In addition, if I spend, I believe, 50K on the Delta Plat Amex, I can get an additional 20K MQM. The total for both cards would be 50K MQM, making Gold.
Am I on the right track here?
Thanks.
edit: I see that the original bonus is 10K not 5K. I was looking toward year 2 and beyond.
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#34
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Can you explain where your numbers come from? I can get to 50K, but can't figure out where your extra 15K is coming from. Are these 1st year only bonuses?
Thanks.
#36
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Ignoring all initial bonuses, you'll be able to get 70K MQM per year without flying a single mile, assuming you can spend $160K annually on your Delta credit cards as follows:
Spend $50K on a Delta Plat Personal, Earn 20K MQM
Spend $50K on a Delta Plat Business, Earn 20K MQM
Spend $60K on a Delta Reserve Business, Earn 30K MQM
Totals: $160K in spending nets 70K MQM annually. 5K short of top-level status for Delta.
* In the first year, you can get 75K to 85K MQM (just gift any extra MQMs above 75K to a friend) by also collecting the various signup bonuses, depending upon which ones you qualify for.
ALSO OF NOTE:
You can do something similar to achieve Gold US status each year. You need to be able to qualify for 3 Juniper US cards and 2 BOA US cards, but if you can pull it off and spend $25K on each, annually, you'll get 10K EQMs from each card for a total of 50K EQMs on $125K spending.
Anyone able to charge $160K+$125K=$285K per year can virtually get Delta PM and USAir GP without flying
Spend $50K on a Delta Plat Personal, Earn 20K MQM
Spend $50K on a Delta Plat Business, Earn 20K MQM
Spend $60K on a Delta Reserve Business, Earn 30K MQM
Totals: $160K in spending nets 70K MQM annually. 5K short of top-level status for Delta.
* In the first year, you can get 75K to 85K MQM (just gift any extra MQMs above 75K to a friend) by also collecting the various signup bonuses, depending upon which ones you qualify for.
ALSO OF NOTE:
You can do something similar to achieve Gold US status each year. You need to be able to qualify for 3 Juniper US cards and 2 BOA US cards, but if you can pull it off and spend $25K on each, annually, you'll get 10K EQMs from each card for a total of 50K EQMs on $125K spending.
Anyone able to charge $160K+$125K=$285K per year can virtually get Delta PM and USAir GP without flying
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If you are not a big spender... say no more than $15K to $20K on the DL Amex... is this card going to have any benefit to you?
I see the benefit of 5% off tickets... but one would have to spend $9,000 on DL tickets to make the 5% off equal the annual fee.
So, outside of the 10,000 MQM up-front bonus (which I could see being worth it come December and less than 10K MQM short of a certain elite level and essentially buying up status for $450), how else could non-big spenders benefit?
Will there be other built-in mielage boosts beside the $30K trigger? Is this an always double miles card as well?
Here is the application on AMEX now:
https://www201.americanexpress.com/s...ep=23822&ct=39
I see the benefit of 5% off tickets... but one would have to spend $9,000 on DL tickets to make the 5% off equal the annual fee.
So, outside of the 10,000 MQM up-front bonus (which I could see being worth it come December and less than 10K MQM short of a certain elite level and essentially buying up status for $450), how else could non-big spenders benefit?
Will there be other built-in mielage boosts beside the $30K trigger? Is this an always double miles card as well?
Here is the application on AMEX now:
https://www201.americanexpress.com/s...ep=23822&ct=39
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One big difference. The Centurion card is invite-only. Also, most of those people that hold the Centurion card are flying paid F and arent competing for upgrades.
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Merger effect on Cards
According to Anderson/Steenland (during merger press conference), both DL and NW's affinity card contracts come up for renewal later this year so they have some wiggle-room to get the best deal out of those negotiations for the new combined DL/NW affinity card....should be interesting...
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III. The Delta Reserve for Business Credit Cardmember must be traveling. Name on ticket must match name on Delta Reserve for Business Credit Card. The Delta Reserve for Business Credit Cardmember must be 21 years of age to enter into Delta Crown Room Clubs without a parent or guardian. The Delta Reserve for Business Credit Cardmember's spouse and children under the age of 21 or up to two companions may enter the club as complimentary guests. Complimentary access is only for Delta Crown Room Clubs. Codeshare partner and other alliance partner lounges are not included. The Delta Reserve for Business Credit Cardmember must present his or her valid Card and airline ticket to club agents.
#42
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Centurion differs in that:
1) It is invite-only.
2) It has a much higher annual fee than the combined fees of the methods detailed above.
3) I believe its status levels do not include the highest tier for any airline.
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People who spend a lot of money on their business cards tend to fly a LOT.
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The ones who the card to augment their lower or no stautus don't fly enough to compete for upgrades..
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I was told by an amex rep yesterday that delta will now allow you into a crc even if you are not flying on delta that day with the amex plat card. This change was put into effect the first of this month.