Last edit by: lamont2718
Last updated: 8/29/2016
In early 2015, Delta began publishing blackout dates for DL award redemptions on China Southern flights. The following blackout dates are now found in the Delta SkyMiles terms and conditions (http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...blackout+dates):
Europe to China
2016
Mar. 18 - Mar. 26
Apr. 13 - Apr. 23
Jun. 25 - Aug. 30
Oct. 4 - Oct. 23
Dec. 8 - Dec. 23
China to Europe
2016
Jan. 2 - Jan. 15
Mar. 27 - Apr. 10
Apr. 17 - Apr. 28
Jun. 20 - Oct. 2
Oct. 17 - Oct. 28
North America to China
2016
Feb. 12 - Feb. 24
May 12 - Jun. 30
Jul. 25 - Aug. 31
Oct. 4 - Oct. 14
Dec. 8 - Dec. 23
China to North America
2016
Jan 2. - Jan. 15
Jan. 29 - Feb. 9
Jun. 24 - Sep. 4
Sep. 27 - Oct. 2
Oceania to China
2016
Jan. 1 - Jan. 5
Feb. 11 - Feb. 22
Jun. 19 - Jun. 27
Nov. 29 - Jan. 10, 2017
China to Oceania
2016
Jan. 1 - Mar. 2
Jul. 10 - Aug. 10
Sep. 27 - Oct. 5
The 2016 blackout dates for North America to China cover 128 days, or 35% of the calendar year.
In early 2015, Delta began publishing blackout dates for DL award redemptions on China Southern flights. The following blackout dates are now found in the Delta SkyMiles terms and conditions (http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...blackout+dates):
Europe to China
2016
Mar. 18 - Mar. 26
Apr. 13 - Apr. 23
Jun. 25 - Aug. 30
Oct. 4 - Oct. 23
Dec. 8 - Dec. 23
China to Europe
2016
Jan. 2 - Jan. 15
Mar. 27 - Apr. 10
Apr. 17 - Apr. 28
Jun. 20 - Oct. 2
Oct. 17 - Oct. 28
North America to China
2016
Feb. 12 - Feb. 24
May 12 - Jun. 30
Jul. 25 - Aug. 31
Oct. 4 - Oct. 14
Dec. 8 - Dec. 23
China to North America
2016
Jan 2. - Jan. 15
Jan. 29 - Feb. 9
Jun. 24 - Sep. 4
Sep. 27 - Oct. 2
Oceania to China
2016
Jan. 1 - Jan. 5
Feb. 11 - Feb. 22
Jun. 19 - Jun. 27
Nov. 29 - Jan. 10, 2017
China to Oceania
2016
Jan. 1 - Mar. 2
Jul. 10 - Aug. 10
Sep. 27 - Oct. 5
The 2016 blackout dates for North America to China cover 128 days, or 35% of the calendar year.
China Southern and Delta Air Lines: The Definitive Thread
#61
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 4,677
I think they can check them without calling now. By the way it is CZ. CX is Cathay Pacific. Very different from CZ
#62
Join Date: Feb 2005
Programs: DL DM MM; HH Diamond; Starwood Plat, Lifetime Gold; Hertz President's Circle
Posts: 680
I actually called and got a couple of B/E tickets just last week. It was very painless - agent was great, and she had the seats immediately - no phone calls to China Southern.
I was going ATL - BKK which routed me ATL-LAX-Guangzhou(CAN)-BKK, all over New Year's and Christmas.
I was going ATL - BKK which routed me ATL-LAX-Guangzhou(CAN)-BKK, all over New Year's and Christmas.
#63
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 170
China Southern Phone #?
For the life of me, I cannot find the China Southern US contact # on their website. Would someone please point it out to me?
I tried looking at http://www.cs-air.com/en/ and found this link:
http://www.flychinasouthern.com/contact_en.html
However, the # listed for Los Angeles is incorrect as well.
I tried looking at http://www.cs-air.com/en/ and found this link:
http://www.flychinasouthern.com/contact_en.html
However, the # listed for Los Angeles is incorrect as well.
#64
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Washington, DC
Programs: AA Gold, AMEX MR, BA, DL, SPG, UA, US, Hyatt Platinum
Posts: 461
Here it is!
6300 Wilshire Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90048
(323) 653-8088
I called the number and China Southern answered (recording during non business hours).
Los Angeles, CA 90048
(323) 653-8088
I called the number and China Southern answered (recording during non business hours).
#66
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Washington, DC
Programs: AA Gold, AMEX MR, BA, DL, SPG, UA, US, Hyatt Platinum
Posts: 461
1. The OP did not provide a number.
2. The OP provided a link to China Southern that contained a number(s) for the Los Angeles offfice. The number(s) provided in the link was "LOS ANGELES (001323) 6538088, 6538066". I deciphered the number(s) in the link to 323-653-8088 and called the number. The OP may not have successfully deciphered the number. I was just trying to give the OP a number that worked.
#68
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: MDW, ORD
Posts: 332
Senoreit,
1. The OP did not provide a number.
2. The OP provided a link to China Southern that contained a number(s) for the Los Angeles offfice. The number(s) provided in the link was "LOS ANGELES (001323) 6538088, 6538066". I deciphered the number(s) in the link to 323-653-8088 and called the number. The OP may not have successfully deciphered the number. I was just trying to give the OP a number that worked.
1. The OP did not provide a number.
2. The OP provided a link to China Southern that contained a number(s) for the Los Angeles offfice. The number(s) provided in the link was "LOS ANGELES (001323) 6538088, 6538066". I deciphered the number(s) in the link to 323-653-8088 and called the number. The OP may not have successfully deciphered the number. I was just trying to give the OP a number that worked.
2. I understand what happened. I was not trying to be critical of you or anyone, really. I was just trying to make an innocent humorous observation (thus the )that the number you successfully called and subsequently posted was listed at the link the OP himself provided. But you're right, the international access code, country code, and unusual formatting kind of muddled things.
3. Wouldn't this be more appropriate in the Skyteam or Other Asian Frequent Flyer Programs forum?
#70
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Queensbury,NY,USA
Posts: 187
China Southern miles never post?
I have about 10 flight segments within China on China Southern dating back to June 7th of this year. I watched at check in to make sure my DL FF# was typed into the computer by the China Southern rep. Not a single segment has posted to my account during this 3 month period. A business partner in an alliance who presumably benefits from the alliance, but does not uphold their end of the bargain should be taken to task by the other partners. A co-worker of mine traveled on the Delta codeshare with China Southern between LAX and CAN in June. His miles did not post. Neither have any of his flights within China. When he called Delta about it, he was told that China Southern is the worst partner they have when it comes to posting miles.:td Have others here experienced the same?
#71
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Atlanta
Programs: DL Diamond in 2010, Kimpton Inner Circle
Posts: 317
I have about 10 flight segments within China on China Southern dating back to June 7th of this year. I watched at check in to make sure my DL FF# was typed into the computer by the China Southern rep. Not a single segment has posted to my account during this 3 month period. A business partner in an alliance who presumably benefits from the alliance, but does not uphold their end of the bargain should be taken to task by the other partners. A co-worker of mine traveled on the Delta codeshare with China Southern between LAX and CAN in June. His miles did not post. Neither have any of his flights within China. When he called Delta about it, he was told that China Southern is the worst partner they have when it comes to posting miles.:td Have others here experienced the same?
#73
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2006
Programs: DL SkyClub Lifer
Posts: 10,000
Had the same prob with CZ miles on NW - turned out miles flights that were listed as "Y" on my itinerary were in some no-miles-on-partners fare class on the back end, which I only found out when I asked NW what was going on.
#75
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 5,630
Usually less the 2 weeks (about 7-10 days). Wait 21 days. If not posted submit the on line DL request milegae form.