MSP and LAS 4 Miles Closer?
Sep 14, 2017, 8:12 pm
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Have no issue saying I interpreted it wrong. However to suggest that the only way it could be read was as in regards to MQM is ridiculous. Also it's very possible to get same fare when flying one route frequently. It's not like the fare base price changes frequently.
AFA the RDM multiplier, a general member RDM is x5. Based on fare rounding 4 miles is a perfectly explained difference, as I explained above.
AFA the RDM multiplier, a general member RDM is x5. Based on fare rounding 4 miles is a perfectly explained difference, as I explained above.
Rounding cannot explain it, because they round up for the base miles, before applying the multiplier.
Sep 14, 2017, 10:04 pm
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Seems pretty clear to me OP was looking at the flight mileage listed under the flight info and has not actually flown the flight. While flight info shows 1296 miles, if you go to actually book the flight, it says it will credit 1300 MQM's. Why don't we wait until OP actually flies the flight. I'm betting that it will credit as 1300 MQM.
Sep 14, 2017, 10:27 pm
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Seems pretty clear to me OP was looking at the flight mileage listed under the flight info and has not actually flown the flight. While flight info shows 1296 miles, if you go to actually book the flight, it says it will credit 1300 MQM's. Why don't we wait until OP actually flies the flight. I'm betting that it will credit as 1300 MQM.
As you say, although there is a "Miles Flown" statistic listed under "Flight Information" if you look up an upcoming itinerary in "My Trips", you can't just add those up to get the MQMs -- for example I have an upcoming BWI-MSP-SFO listed as 934 + 1585 = 2519 but it actually credits as 2525 (which is also what a new booking shows)
Sep 14, 2017, 10:36 pm
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In my opinion it was this post by Yohanson that started all the drama. He added some attitude in his post with the sheesh. flyerCO mistakenly thought it was award miles, as did I because OPs post wasn't worded well. If you're not going to be clear in your post theres no reason for you to have attitude towards other members. If OP politely corrected flyerCO or even just said, "I meant MQM," that would have been a lot better of a response.
Sep 14, 2017, 10:49 pm
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In my opinion it was this post by Yohanson that started all the drama. He added some attitude in his post with the sheesh. flyerCO mistakenly thought it was award miles, as did I because OPs post wasn't worded well. If you're not going to be clear in your post theres no reason for you to have attitude towards other members. If OP politely corrected flyerCO or even just said, "I meant MQM," that would have been a lot better of a response.
BTW to clarify this, and from an actual example I had last month: $394.88 base fare, which posted to my account as 395 MQDs, 1975 base RDMs, and 2370 DM bonus RDMs for a total of 4345. If they multiplied the base fare by 11 first and then rounded after, that would be 11x$394.88 = $4343.68 -> 4344.
Sep 14, 2017, 11:00 pm
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In my opinion it was this post by Yohanson that started all the drama. He added some attitude in his post with the sheesh. flyerCO mistakenly thought it was award miles, as did I because OPs post wasn't worded well. If you're not going to be clear in your post theres no reason for you to have attitude towards other members. If OP politely corrected flyerCO or even just said, "I meant MQM," that would have been a lot better of a response.
Sep 14, 2017, 11:06 pm
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I think the issue is that the poster who responded to OP has a rather long history of pedantic posts that are filled with attitude and arrogance. This case seems particularly egregious and so I think we are seeing some of the built up irritation with said poster boiling over.
Sep 14, 2017, 11:12 pm
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That, plus your F figure of 1950 being 50% higher than the Y figure of 1300, was why interpreting it as MQMs seemed natural to me.
Sep 14, 2017, 11:14 pm
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Sep 15, 2017, 8:38 am
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Sheesh, you worded as awarded miles. Base members earn 5x$. Thus a difference of four could reflect a change in fare cost. 1300/5 is $260, which is perfectly normal fare for LAS.
DL may have updated thier tables. I say this becuase I noticed it on another route. Just depending on what part of the airport the measurement is done at can cause a change.
DL may have updated thier tables. I say this becuase I noticed it on another route. Just depending on what part of the airport the measurement is done at can cause a change.
Data point for Yohanson: For me, flight on June 6, 2017 I was credited 1300 MQMs.
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Sep 15, 2017, 8:59 am
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Which is more plausible:
1) OP is talking about the difference between 1296-1300 miles when MSP-LAS when the distance credited as MQMs is 1296-1300 MQMs?
2) The OP just happens to have a ticket which generates 1300 RDM on the MSP-LAS route (what a coincidence!), books this ticket two times, and then books a third ticket for a dollar less which generates 1296 RDM
1) OP is talking about the difference between 1296-1300 miles when MSP-LAS when the distance credited as MQMs is 1296-1300 MQMs?
2) The OP just happens to have a ticket which generates 1300 RDM on the MSP-LAS route (what a coincidence!), books this ticket two times, and then books a third ticket for a dollar less which generates 1296 RDM
Sep 15, 2017, 11:52 am
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Imagine how many RDMs the airline has saved by changing it to 665 rather than 667.
Sep 15, 2017, 12:02 pm
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The tectonic plates in the earth shift over time so that could explain the difference, but most likely its that DL uses a bunch (and I mean a bunch) of different tables for the calculation depending on which screen you look at. Anyone who has picked a route based on maximum MQMs may have noticed this. I.e. if you look at DTW to SEA, its 1920 miles on the flight status page, 1921 on the booking page and 1927 MQMs on the last flight I took. It doesn't seem very efficient to me, but then again, I am not running their show.