Weird DL vs KE pricing when travelling on KE metal.
I am looking at flying from SFO>ICN>SFO nonstop on KE next month, and there is a huge difference in the Business Class fares. KE is quoting $3,892 RT and DL is quoting $11,827 RT on the same flights (it's a DL code share). Why is there a $7,935 difference comparing the fares on DL.com vs Koreanair.com? I understand that there is probably going to be a difference in the Base/Bonus Miles, MQDs and MQMs awarded, but not $7,935 worth! Why don't these fares match? Utterly ridiculous!
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Different and independent revenue management (so far).
Implicitly a different market too, as people in Korea are more likely to purchase from KE while USA residents are more likely to buy from DL. |
Originally Posted by audidudi
(Post 28810660)
Why don't these fares match? Utterly ridiculous!
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Until the JV is fully vested KE and DL are still frenimies. They haven't even moved KE to a group 1 partnership yet.
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Originally Posted by audidudi
(Post 28810660)
....Why don't these fares match? Utterly ridiculous!
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Originally Posted by TerryK
(Post 28810838)
Why would they match? :confused::confused: There is absolutely no reason for them to match other than coincidental. The whole marketing deal with codeshare is that each can sell others' seats under their own fare/condition/availability. Even with integrated partners like DL/AF/KL, fares don't often match.
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Originally Posted by audidudi
(Post 28810884)
If the fares aren't the same, then why bother code-sharing? Does DL really believe that someone will pay $7,935 more, for the same seat on the same flight, booked at DL.com?
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Originally Posted by audidudi
(Post 28810884)
If the fares aren't the same, then why bother code-sharing?....
Originally Posted by audidudi
(Post 28810884)
....Does DL really believe that someone will pay $7,935 more, for the same seat on the same flight, booked at DL.com?
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
(Post 28810935)
Fly America Act. The marketing carrier matters, so business travelers being reimbursed from federal sources can, for example, take a KE operated flight if it's sold as a codeshare using a DL flight number. To me, this greatly violates the spirit of the regulation, but it's the rule.
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Originally Posted by TerryK
(Post 28810968)
+1.:-: Government employees as well government contractors will book on those DL coded flights.;) Your tax dollars at work.:p
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KE like has a seat quota that they are required to sell on the codeshare (or a specific number of seats they've already purchased at a given price) and their RM has determined they need to sell into lower inventory buckets or for a lower price to make sure they sell their allotted seats.
DL meanwhile could have sold out their lower inventory buckets for that flight so they've moved to higher fare buckets and higher prices. |
Originally Posted by Duke787
(Post 28811484)
KE like has a seat quota that they are required to sell on the codeshare (or a specific number of seats they've already purchased at a given price) and their RM has determined they need to sell into lower inventory buckets or for a lower price to make sure they sell their allotted seats.
DL meanwhile could have sold out their lower inventory buckets for that flight so they've moved to higher fare buckets and higher prices. THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA TRANSPACIFIC SECTORS ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY DL FLIGHT OPERATED BY DL. You need to buy a B or higher for coach or a J fare in order for the fare to permit KE operated flights on the TPAC sector: THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA TRANSPACIFIC SECTORS ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY DL FLIGHT OPERATED BY DL ANY DL FLIGHT OPERATED BY KE. |
So will I earn any MQMs on the KE operated flights from SFO>ICN>SFO which are also code-shared with DL...SFO>ICN KE024/DL7861...ICN>SFO KE025/DL7891? I know I'll earn 100% Base Miles, and don't need the MQDs!
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Originally Posted by audidudi
(Post 28812813)
So will I earn any MQMs on the KE operated flights from SFO>ICN>SFO which are also code-shared with DL...SFO>ICN KE024/DL7861...ICN>SFO KE025/DL7891? I know I'll earn 100% Base Miles, and don't need the MQDs!
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
(Post 28812996)
Are they booked under the KE or DL flight number? (IIRC sometimes the ticket stock matters too.)
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