ExpressJet Terminates Agreement Early
Aug 10, 2017, 2:39 pm
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I don't get all the SkyWest hate. They aren't quite as good as Compass - the best regional since Mesaba (RIP) - but they are still reliable with pleasant crews on average who seem to enjoy their jobs. I feel like because of their scale, they are better than average at maintenance and scheduling - I've very rarely been screwed by delays or cancellations by them.
In my book, pre-Endeavor Pinnacle was by far the Worst Regional Airline Evar™, but GoJet and ExpressJet have been pretty bad at times too...
In my book, pre-Endeavor Pinnacle was by far the Worst Regional Airline Evar™, but GoJet and ExpressJet have been pretty bad at times too...
Aug 10, 2017, 6:17 pm
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I don't get all the SkyWest hate. They aren't quite as good as Compass - the best regional since Mesaba (RIP) - but they are still reliable with pleasant crews on average who seem to enjoy their jobs. I feel like because of their scale, they are better than average at maintenance and scheduling - I've very rarely been screwed by delays or cancellations by them.
In my book, pre-Endeavor Pinnacle was by far the Worst Regional Airline Evar™, but GoJet and ExpressJet have been pretty bad at times too...
In my book, pre-Endeavor Pinnacle was by far the Worst Regional Airline Evar™, but GoJet and ExpressJet have been pretty bad at times too...
Of course Mesaba ran the wonderful Avro's I miss so much.
Aug 10, 2017, 8:15 pm
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Don't have much experience with SkyWest being on the East Coast, flew them a long time ago under the UA Express brand and I actually found them to be fine, great crew as well. ExpressJet under the DL Connection brand is mixed, I've had flights delayed due to MX issues, inoperative lavs, and various service issues. However the crews were fine, if not above and beyond.
On the flip side of that have never had an issue with Endeavor and only have good things to say about them. Kind of happy about this change.
On the flip side of that have never had an issue with Endeavor and only have good things to say about them. Kind of happy about this change.
Aug 10, 2017, 8:23 pm
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Ah, some people never learn their lesson. Wholey owned regionals have never worked out. Mark my words, Endeavor will be Comaired within the next ten years.
Aug 10, 2017, 9:03 pm
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ExpressJet was the reincarnation of Atlantic Southeast Airlines. IIRC some of the ASA operation was also folded into Skywest. That explains the problems experienced when flying EJ and SW. For those who never experienced ASA, I am confident that had Dante been alive and writing Inferno in 2009 the third ring of Hell would have involved flying ASA.
Good riddance.
Good riddance.
Aug 10, 2017, 9:16 pm
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In response to past # 29 above that I forgot to quote:
Wow. The MSP-DCA government fares are much much worse.
Wow. The MSP-DCA government fares are much much worse.
Aug 10, 2017, 9:18 pm
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I agree with you on Mesaba and Compass, but my Pinnacle experiences were always fine.
Aug 10, 2017, 9:49 pm
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I guess it just shows how the experience differs from person to person. I have always been pleased with Skywest employees. They have been consistently friendly and professional in my experience. And none of their workgroups are unionized so you won't have to worry about flight interruptions due to employee pettiness.
Aug 10, 2017, 9:50 pm
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Really? Endeavor is by far the best DL regional operator. I've found that their crews are often better than mainline.
Aug 10, 2017, 9:56 pm
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Comair was the best of the regionals at one time as well. They were the first regional to get the brand new (at the time) CRJ. CVG even took on the name of "The Jet Hub" because it was the only hub at the time with all jet operations. The Comair pilots sealed the fate with that strike that crippled Delta's operations for a while.
Aug 10, 2017, 10:02 pm
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ExpressJet was the reincarnation of Atlantic Southeast Airlines. IIRC some of the ASA operation was also folded into Skywest. That explains the problems experienced when flying EJ and SW. For those who never experienced ASA, I am confident that had Dante been alive and writing Inferno in 2009 the third ring of Hell would have involved flying ASA.
Good riddance.
Good riddance.
Aug 10, 2017, 10:32 pm
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More CR9s to Endeavour, fewer CR7s and CR2s for Delta in general. Express Jet will park CR2s and Endeavour as well, which all sounds like good news for flyers. It'll be interesting to see what the Delta Connection fleet looks like a year from now. Might see 100 or fewers CR2s — and with the departure of CR7s, Delta has an opening for a few more largeish RJs.
DALPA's scope is broken down into three sections for DCI, 50 seats or less, 51 to 70 seats and 71 to 76 seats. DL can still add a handful of 76 seaters if they want (IIRC they have something like 5 more frames they can add)
The 23 CR2's were already scheduled to go at the of the year. The latest quarterly report currently shows 152 CR2's in the fleet. The plan that was announced several years ago was to get the 50-seater fleet down to 125 aircraft. Subtracting the 23 ExpressJet aircraft gets DL down to 129 which is pretty close to the target. I haven't seen anything about going below that 125 number.
Maybe, maybe not. Delta used to serve MCN (Macon, GA), which was about 5-10 miles up the road from Robins AFB. Service was pulled though and anyone traveling to Robins now has to go in and out of ATL.
As to government travel being profitable, again, sometimes yes and sometimes not so much. It all depends on the route and city. I fly SEA-LAX regularly. The Capacity Controlled fare is $62 one way. The Full YCA fare is $140 one way.
As to government travel being profitable, again, sometimes yes and sometimes not so much. It all depends on the route and city. I fly SEA-LAX regularly. The Capacity Controlled fare is $62 one way. The Full YCA fare is $140 one way.
not to say BQK will stay or go but its not the same animal as MCN. My guess is it will hang around on 9E metal.
ExpressJet was the reincarnation of Atlantic Southeast Airlines. IIRC some of the ASA operation was also folded into Skywest. That explains the problems experienced when flying EJ and SW. For those who never experienced ASA, I am confident that had Dante been alive and writing Inferno in 2009 the third ring of Hell would have involved flying ASA.
Good riddance.
Good riddance.
Also a note for everyone in this thread, most of ExpressJet and ASA employees have still yet to be merged. Likely means large layoffs on the legacy ASA side of the house.
Also it is questionable if the maintenance hangar in ATL stays with EV. Delta wants the building something bad and EV will obviously have very little ATL flying after this.
Comair was the best of the regionals at one time as well. They were the first regional to get the brand new (at the time) CRJ. CVG even took on the name of "The Jet Hub" because it was the only hub at the time with all jet operations. The Comair pilots sealed the fate with that strike that crippled Delta's operations for a while.
American Eagle (not Envoy) came very very close to same ending.
Of course the landscape in the RJ industry has completely changed and isn't really comparable to the timeframe OH was shut down.
Aug 11, 2017, 7:26 am
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+1 on GoJet.....they and their alter ego cousins at trans states could not find their way out of a wet paper bag on a good day, i yearn for the day that UA kicks them to the curb, skywest imo runs a better op (maintenance and crew mgmt)speaking.
Aug 11, 2017, 1:21 pm
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ExpressJet was the reincarnation of Atlantic Southeast Airlines. IIRC some of the ASA operation was also folded into Skywest. That explains the problems experienced when flying EJ and SW. For those who never experienced ASA, I am confident that had Dante been alive and writing Inferno in 2009 the third ring of Hell would have involved flying ASA.
Good riddance.
Good riddance.
