Preboarders Sitting in Emergency Exit Rows
#31
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Stillontheroad - Excellent observation think I have witnessed that!
Preboarding for first class & diamonds seems like a lot of diamonds these days on delta gate agents need to kick them out of line if not diamond shaming them in front of everyone that will keep them from doing that again very rarely do you see gate agents enforcing this once in a while you get a good one who publicly shames someone, love that when it happens just a little boarding gate humor.
Preboarding for first class & diamonds seems like a lot of diamonds these days on delta gate agents need to kick them out of line if not diamond shaming them in front of everyone that will keep them from doing that again very rarely do you see gate agents enforcing this once in a while you get a good one who publicly shames someone, love that when it happens just a little boarding gate humor.
#32
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Slightly off topic, but related: On a recent flight an elderly passenger in an exit row answered "I'm not sure I could" to the "Willing and able" question. She was moved to a different seat. I was impressed by her honesty.
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There are disabilities which manifest themselves only on boarding and not on deboarding.
Everyone of us has witnessed school children moving lethargically when reentering class after a recess, only to be able to sprint out as soon as the bell chimes the end of the school day.
Everyone of us has witnessed school children moving lethargically when reentering class after a recess, only to be able to sprint out as soon as the bell chimes the end of the school day.
#34
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This. And I know that all of the MBA's and libertarians will start in about market forces blah blah blah, but I don't care. IMO the government should set a baseline pitch of 34" and width of 18" on any seat and let the market work with those regulations. Nobody can do it profitably unless everyone has to do it.
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This. And I know that all of the MBA's and libertarians will start in about market forces blah blah blah, but I don't care. IMO the government should set a baseline pitch of 34" and width of 18" on any seat and let the market work with those regulations. Nobody can do it profitably unless everyone has to do it.
Even on planes that could retain their row configurations, like any Airbus, increasing pitch from 31" to 34" would be a 10% increase in CASM and ticket prices. You're right that if all airlines had to conform to this that it would be an even playing field, but I think the economic impact would be highly disproportional. Many FlyerTalkers spend other people's money on their tickets and/or are relatively high income. Such a mandate would most impact those for whom air travel is already expensive.
Ultimately consumers already have the choice to easily get 34" or better pitch on any mainline carrier in the US for a small premium over a coach ticket. The number of these extra-legroom (C+, MCE, E+) seats that are installed and the number of those seats that go to elites for free should illustrate how little demand actually exists for this extra room. For most flyers it simply isn't worth it or they can't afford it, having the government force them to buy and pay for extra-legroom economy does not help these people.
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If you want more leg room there are other ways to obtain it.
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This. And I know that all of the MBA's and libertarians will start in about market forces blah blah blah, but I don't care. IMO the government should set a baseline pitch of 34" and width of 18" on any seat and let the market work with those regulations. Nobody can do it profitably unless everyone has to do it.
#38
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Disgusting idea on a few levels. Why should anyone pay in order to suddenly become liable based on actually having a certification? Any passenger who goes to all that effort should be PAID, not paying.
We're the tail wagging the dog. We should really be asking ourselves why we accept the fact that the standard of comfort for exit row seating isn't applied universally throughout the economy section of an aircraft.
Before most people would pay for this, they'd pay for business/first.
Again, strive for adequate comfort throughout the economy section. It's morally wrong to keep dangling a safety feature in front of customers and marketing it as a comfort item.
We're the tail wagging the dog. We should really be asking ourselves why we accept the fact that the standard of comfort for exit row seating isn't applied universally throughout the economy section of an aircraft.
Before most people would pay for this, they'd pay for business/first.
Again, strive for adequate comfort throughout the economy section. It's morally wrong to keep dangling a safety feature in front of customers and marketing it as a comfort item.
I would wager quite a few people would want to take a class like this out of curiosity and/or a real desire for a small bit of extra safety training you could get.
But as a requirement for exit row seating? No way.
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I would pay for this, simply for the lark of seeing the exit doors in action. I sit in the exit row all of the time and always wonder what it would be like to pull the lever (and will the door actually sit across the armrests like in the picture or just slide down and block the aisle?).
I would wager quite a few people would want to take a class like this out of curiosity and/or a real desire for a small bit of extra safety training you could get.
But as a requirement for exit row seating? No way.
I would wager quite a few people would want to take a class like this out of curiosity and/or a real desire for a small bit of extra safety training you could get.
But as a requirement for exit row seating? No way.
Not so into the idea of certification, for liability and more reasons.
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This. And I know that all of the MBA's and libertarians will start in about market forces blah blah blah, but I don't care. IMO the government should set a baseline pitch of 34" and width of 18" on any seat and let the market work with those regulations. Nobody can do it profitably unless everyone has to do it.
#41
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So I get a wet seat if I happen to sit next to PA or allergic reaction because some unknown substance was spread on my seat. If any seats on a plane need special cleaning/treatment the airline should be the only one doing so!
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"unapproved people cleaning seats" should be in the http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...ain-about.html thread
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It is my understanding that the number one destination for miracle flights is LAS.
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You may only see 2 chairs, but more can have gotten off, and more often, more will be waiting for chairs to come that haven't arrived.
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This. And I know that all of the MBA's and libertarians will start in about market forces blah blah blah, but I don't care. IMO the government should set a baseline pitch of 34" and width of 18" on any seat and let the market work with those regulations. Nobody can do it profitably unless everyone has to do it.